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Animerica - The Anime Invasion
by strongbad87




Since the big boom in the late 90’s, anime has begun seeping into American pop culture. Anime and Japanese influences can be seen in all aspects of media, music, movies, television, and video games. Americans are now trying their hand at Japanese style cartoons with “amerimanga” and the recent influx of anime look-alike shows popping up on major cartoon channels. With such an abundance of anime themed content being released, it begs the question, "Is any of this stuff good?" Well there is no clear cut answer, but there are general assertions that can be made about a majority of these properties.

Let me just get this out of the way, I am looking forward to a well done American anime, I have been eagerly awaiting one. Most purists will say that Americans will only westernize anime, but the Japanese seem to be doing this on their own, as they become more assimilated into Western culture. Americans seem to have more resources, and the higher production values would undoubtedly yield some mind blowing visuals. The new Nickelodeon cartoon, Avatar: The Air Bender, proves my point pretty well. The show has a very clean look, and is obviously emulating anime. The character designs, the Asian inspired locales, and the martial arts, all point to one conclusion: Avatar is an anime wannabe. Is it up to par with the anime greats? Absolutely not, but it is a step in the right direction.

Cartoon Network is a trailblazer for bringing anime to America. The network's Toonami, a 2-3 hour block of anime running from around 4pm to 6pm, was one of the first to show kid friendly anime. Their late night run targeted towards more mature audiences, Adult Swim, has consistently shown top-notch anime, and really helped to popularize anime. Cartoon Network is once again leading the way, this time with anime inspired shows. Its Teen Titans show is essentially anime/teenage/justice league. The show has very nice animation, and slick action sequences, but lacks the subtlety anime possesses. The theme song is performed, in Japanese, by J-pop super duo, Puffy Ami Yumi, who have their own show on Cartoon Network. Teen Titans is the perfect combination of Eastern and Western animation, and Hi Hi Puffy Ami Yumi is a fun, light hearted comedy.


Avatar: The Air Bender


The Boondocks

Cartoon Network has recently added two more anime shows to their lineup, The Boondocks and IGPX. The Boondocks is more of an anime influenced comedy telling the story of two young African American kids and their grandfather, based on the sindicated comic strip. The show deals mainly with racism, including a self-hating black white supremacist, and stereotypes. The tongue-in-cheek comedy style, clean, crisp, gorgeous animation, and copious use of the N word, The Boondocks is a welcome addition to the already great Adult Swim roster. IGXP, Imortal Grand Prix, is a joint project between Cartoon Network and Production IG, one of the top anime production companies. IGPX takes place several decades into the future and revolves around a sport where giant mecha race around a circuit while fighting. As with all Production IG projects IGPX is extremely well animated, and uses every penny of its high production costs.


Boondocks

Music seems to be following the same trend as animation. Gwen Stefani has obviously undergone a total transformation, and her last album Love. Angel. Music. Baby., was heavily influenced by Japanese street culture. Her recent tour is even called the Harajuku Lovers Tour, named for the street in Tokyo famous for attracting the fashion elite. Her videos have almost all included her “Harajuku Girls” and include many references to Japan, Stefani proclaims “Super Kawaii!” after taking a snapshot of her Harajuku Girls in the video for “Hollaback girl”.


Stefani and Harajuku Girls

Anime has influenced several significant movies of the past few years. The Matrix Trilogy borrows heavily from all aspects of anime, the fighting, the gun play, dodging bullets, ambiguous ending, all characteristic of anime. The Burly Brawl at the end of The Matrix Revolution seems like it was taken from a Dragonball Z episode. The Wachowski brothers even brought together some of the top anime makers to direct the DVD tie-in cartoons, The Animatrix. Kill Bill was also influenced by anime, and even included an anime segment made by Production IG. Director Quentin Tarintino took his usual style of borrowing from many genres to the extreme with countless references to Japanese cinema and anime.


IGPX

It wasn’t going to take long before Hollywood caught whiff of anime and its marketability. ADV has claimed to have collected half of its projected $150 million budget for the live action version of Neon Genesis Evangelion. Live action versions of Astro boy, Battle angel Alita, and Dragonball Z have been pitched to major companies. James Cameron (Titanic, Terminator 2) is said to be attached to the Battle Angel Alita project. Only time will tell if Hollywood can bring an anime to life, the Japanese, for the most part, have been unsuccessful in doing so.


IGPX

Anime has become a major part of today’s pop culture. With Americans becoming more and more exposed to Japanese culture, things can only escalate. As anime fans we can only look forward to this merging of two cultures. Whether the results will be good is still unknown, all we can do is wait, watch, and listen.

I would also love to hear your thoughts about this, so post your thoughts in the comments section.









--strongbad87

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Published on: 2005-12-24 (370407 reads)

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#1

Kaiser on Saturday, December 24 @
Yes, I have to agree that anime and Japanese/Asian culture is way more mainstream then ever before and we see many imitations or adoptions of this culture.

However those four Harajuku Girls scare me.. lol


#2

xinhua on Sunday, December 25 @
Yes......I guess your right. But no matter how hard the American try to on their manga, they will never be as good as the japanese manga.

#3

Bowser on Sunday, December 25 @
Well I just hope all this comes to the UK, several channels have tried their hands at showing some anime, but thats dissapearing quickly.
But if America is going a little Asian, then Europe is sure to follow...just hurry up about it!!~hehe...

#4

byrc on Sunday, December 25 @
Japanese culture is actually more prevelent in the UK than in the US. Japanese fashion takes about 3 or more years to get to the States, if it ever does, and it will be heavily modified. Anime is on cartoon-network, the only cable channel that has anime currently (the anime network was a short experimentation that didn't seem to work). Don't feel left out Bowser. When we are talking about japanese culture as a whole, the UK has trumped the US for the last 10 years. Anime is a different matter, due to tv networks seeing it as a cheaper alternative than making their own saturday morning cartoon show. I agree that the mainstream media has flirted with Japanese culture, but when you compare it to the levels seen European countries, it's not the same.
Japanese are actually more similar to Europeans than Japanese are to Americans as far as pop culture is concerned. America has always been a bit out of the loop. We've always either constructed our own culture or we take others as our own and disallow any belief that it is not homegrown.

Either way, it's nice to see Japanese pop culture popping up in the mainstream US culture, it has long been overdue. Yet, for every item of culture the US acknowledges as Japanese in origin, there are tons of others that are not acknowledged at all.

#5

strongbad87 on Sunday, December 25 @
You're probably right about the UK being more accepting of Japanese culture, probably because it's more accepting of cultures, whereas America is a bit more stubborn (Not using the metric system ect ect.) but we're getting better, and Americans are becoming more cultured. There is really no such thing as "American culture" since America is founded on immigrants, so we take other people's tradtiitions and make them our own.

#6

G-girl on Monday, December 26 @
Anime is very popular and the US always likes to take something that is a money maker and make it there own. On one hand yeah, because the more they try the better they will get and produce some great anime but until then we hope they don't produce a lot of junk and put it on the air taking time away from the true anime. Time will tell.

#7

Shaina on Monday, December 26 @
Yeah, i've been noticing how much more abundant anime and mangas have been getting. Also how a lot of american shows are in the anime style, which i think kinda sucks. i don't think america does a very good job

#8

Skittles on Monday, December 26 @
nice article, was a good read!

Going back to the british aspect of jap anime getting onto TV. The problem is there is no british company that has yet to take on airing anime. Yes we get cartoon network, but if things are like they normally are, we brits usually get what is aired in the states a few months later. I know its been changing over hte years but TV wise we get everything late. It would be nice if there were a british/european channel willing to take on the task but i doubt it, its a big venture and CN already have a good footing/experience.

Back to the article, i never really thought about it, till reading your article, but its true, if u look over the last 5 or 6 years(poss more) jap culutre has made its way into the western world. I realised tons of things(too many to list) that either had anime, manga or some aspect of japan somewhere in it.
Anyways, nice article ^^

#9

CGY on Monday, December 26 @
Looking forward to American animes? Well, if it's me, I'd say a big "No" "No"!

#10

Tatersalad0051 on Monday, December 26 @
Well as far as that goes it all depends on what type they try to make. I seriously doubt that any American anime could compare as far as action goes, but it may be worth looking at a comedy anime done by Americans

#11

doomed51 on Monday, December 26 @
oh yes anime is gettin really big, watched that Avatar show and i must say its pretty good, but still not on par as some of the other Anime's, like i just started watching Noein and Mushishi really awesome series, and the stories are very unique and the animation is Noein is simple yet very enjoyable/cool :P

#12

doomed51 on Monday, December 26 @
oh yes anime is gettin really big, watched that Avatar show and i must say its pretty good, but still not on par as some of the other Anime's, like i just started watching Noein and Mushishi really awesome series, and the stories are very unique and the animation is Noein is simple yet very enjoyable/cool :P

#13

V16Dragon on Tuesday, December 27 @
i like the fact that more and more americans try to get a slice of the anime theme pie, not every attempt at making an anime wanna be is promised to be good but thats a given, there are japanese animes out there that are crappy, but given time i'm sure there will be good line ups, and if hollywood could make a live action anime base thats good, i'm all for it,
now its just a matter of time, wait and see

#14

SSS on Tuesday, December 27 @
I just wanted to comment on how anime is coming to america... although greatly appreciated, with a few exceptions... the voice acting is so horrible. Obviously it isn't so much the fact that talent doesn't exist, because cartoons have fine voices and the Avatar (although i've only watched one episode) had some decent voices and Animatrix had really good voicing (of course I understand that was probably a bigger budget project, but still...). I just can't stand how the Japanese Anime is dubbed so horribly, its like they purposely make it worse so that American Cartoons are out classed. Personally, I like subtitles, but at the least, I think that they should give anime better voices, or just leave them in japanese with subtitles.

#15

seefutbow on Tuesday, December 27 @
In response to SSS's comments about dubs, they aren't as bad as you seem to be making them out to be anymore. Full Metal Alchemist's dub isn't bad. It's actually pretty good, and the voices do fit their characters, though they may not be as good as the original Japanese voice actors. Sometimes you can't be too biased against something. I also prefer subtitles to dubs, but dub quality is definitely improving a lot.

#16

Jsy3k on Tuesday, December 27 @
Interesting article, strongbad87.

Seriously, I am looking forward to the time where the 2 cultures mix together to form an anime that mixes in these 2 different cultures together.

And as Kaiser said, the 4 Harajuku Girls scared the hell out of me.....

#17

kuey on Tuesday, December 27 @
American anime... I guess it won't be the same as japanese anime because of the cultural differences. Saying it won't be good at all is just descriminating, you can't expect them to make a great one on the very first try, eventually it may develop into its own unique style, then again it might not and just be a failed effort, but who can tell what the future will bring? If the demand is great enough then I can see co-opperative efforts which could result in some pretty cool anime with america's resources.

As to live action anime/manga, I'm skeptical about it. It's like when you read a book then a movie is made of it, in your own mind you have your own ideas of character looks and such. With precast models of the characters in anime and manga it just wouldn't feel the same with an actor who can't match the model of the character depicted in the anime and manga, but thats just jumping to conclusions. There have been movies of books that worked very well, example, lord of the rings. For some people that worked well. I guess what I'm trying to say is that it would be incredibly easy for them to mess it up. Personally I think it might ruin the surreal affect that arise from the animation. I guess the only way to truly know is to wait and see how things work out if it does go ahead.

Is it that Gwen Stefani is tall or are those Harajuku girls short... kinda freaks you out

#18

pash241 on Tuesday, December 27 @
Well I guess it was bound to happen eventually, more and more anime shows are comming to america and with their increasing popularity american shows can only adapt themselves. What I find sad however is that most anime that are licensed in america are mostly for kids. There's a lot of teen Anime liscensed but its usually released on DVD without airing on TV. Here "cartoon" is still viewed as for kids while anime spreads for all audiences. Time will probably change that...

#19

byrc on Tuesday, December 27 @
I very much doubt it pash241.

Our culture is too different from japan. This will only occur when consumers actually have the power of what they want or dont' want to watch. At the moment, tv networks make those decisions, while listenting to fringe groups for suggestions instead of the majority. American tv networks have really failed us since the begining of the 21st century. Universal On-demand media, if it ever happens, will likely allow for more variety of media to appear in the US. Will it bring more adult oriented anime? I don't know, but don't it will happen any time soon.

Also keep in mind, while we are waiting for more adult oriented anime to come to the American TV, the American consumer will probably lose interest in Japanese pop culture, just like what they've done in the past.

Kiddie anime isn't on tv because kids want anime, it's because it is a positive finanical choice. Tv networks have always done this in the past. There were many heavily edited and mutated Japanese shows in the 80s. Oddly enough cartoons were more violent in the 80s than they are presently. Unless our culture is able to handle the idea that animation is only for kids, or parents of kids, we won't be seeing mature anime on tv.

By the way, maybe i'm old, but does anyone remember Invasion America.

It was a animated series shown on WB network on PRIME TIME. It was what you guys call american anime. It was great, but was cancelled.

You guys might be too young, but anime didn't just pop up in the mainstream media just recently. During the mid 90s, the RAVE scene brought anime into the american subcultures. This underground scene got media hyped by tv networks and news media. They tried to bring animated series similar to anime, but it didn't catch on.

I can agree we are much closer to what we were in the past, but American TV conservatism is Anime's biggest enemy.

Don't keep your hopes up.

#20

Theramus on Tuesday, December 27 @
Ahh... I remember some old Japanese cartoons that they would play. Invasion America was pretty cool but it sadly ended before it the season finale. The only anime I remember from that era was Samurai Pizza Cats and Ronin.

I really think most people are stereotyping and generalizing the Japanese anime as being supreme. They deem most American animes not par as other animes and ignore it in a second. Thats where it gets at my nerves. Most don't even realize the production values and things they had to do to make the anime.

Yes, Asian culture is fusing more within into American culture but people are ignoring our own creations. I go into forums and see many discrediting American creators that just piss me off. Kids saying Wapanese and just talking about one kind of anime just pisses me off. But, what can we do about it eh?

Even in the American comic industry, you can see the Asian influences changing it dramatically. Check with the 90s art and the modern art and you can see that asthetic looks are a bit more smoother and curvacious.

#21

Theramus on Tuesday, December 27 @
Ahh... I remember some old Japanese cartoons that they would play. Invasion America was pretty cool but it sadly ended before it the season finale. The only anime I remember from that era was Samurai Pizza Cats and Ronin.

I really think most people are stereotyping and generalizing the Japanese anime as being supreme. They deem most American animes not par as other animes and ignore it in a second. Thats where it gets at my nerves. Most don't even realize the production values and things they had to do to make the anime.

Yes, Asian culture is fusing more within into American culture but people are ignoring our own creations. I go into forums and see many discrediting American creators that just piss me off. Kids saying Wapanese and just talking about one kind of anime just pisses me off. But, what can we do about it eh?

Even in the American comic industry, you can see the Asian influences changing it dramatically. Check with the 90s art and the modern art and you can see that asthetic looks are a bit more smoother and curvacious.

#22

strongbad87 on Tuesday, December 27 @
Your totally right Theramus
People seem to forget that anime itself is a copy of American cartoons, that's where the huge eyes come from. America produces some of the best animation, but because it isn't aimed towards teens, they tend to ignore it.

#23

strongbad87 on Wednesday, December 28 @
And to what bryc said, Adult anime is being shown on american TV right now, Adult swim is currently airing Evangelion, and recently finished its run of Paranoia Agent.
Every digital cable/sattelite provider has at least 1 anime on demand channel. I don't see anime becoming a fad, it may not be as much in the spotlight as it is now, but it will never disappear from America.

#24

byrc on Wednesday, December 28 @
This will be my last time commenting on this subject, until I actually write an article of my own.
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1st: I'd like to respond that I stand firm on my opinion about Japanese pop-culture as a whole being a fad in America.

2nd: I would like to completely agree that Kiddie anime has gained a level of acceptance that I would have never imagine. I've seen so many experimentations done on local tv and seen them fail miserably. Unlike in the past tv network executives are now using Japanese animation as a selling point for their saturday morning cartoon line-up. This is great news for kids.

3rd: In the case of manga, shonen jump series have also trumped comic book sales. Manga is the new thing, however it is still in its early years. I have high hopes for manga as an entertainment medium for kids to teenagers. I don't know what will happen after american comic ,book companies take notice and begin to make manga or graphic novels at the same level of diversity seen in japanese manga. Graphic novels aren't new, but they don't encompass the same level of variety and diversity seen in the Japanese manga scene. It is slowly gaining momentum and I see a very bright future. For adult oriented grahic novels/manga, they will stay within cult acceptance terrirtory, similar to how comic books for adults are, here in the States. Anime and manga are very different due to the higher level of acceptance in literature.

4th: Now, we come to the main issue at hand. People need to understand there is a difference (a major one) between "cult acceptance" and "mainstream acceptance". Let me give you an American cartoon example, Aqua Teen Hunger Force and Family Guy. Aqua Teen Hunger Force is a cartoon network grown series that has attain a high level of Cult accepatance, essentially "cult status". Family Guy first started on FOX tv (a local tv network), with very little ratings. I loved the show when I first saw it, but it did not garner enough popularity. When it finally was cancelled and episodes began to be shared over the internet, cartoon network snatched up the series and re-ran the old episodes. At that moment Family guy reached Cult Status. DVD sales reached a high amount, enough to justify bringing it back on FOX. This was a big deal, stuff like this does not usually happen. After that, Family guy reach "mainstream acceptance". Will this happen to anime shown on cartoon network, most probably not. You may hear about the high level of fanbase surrounding Aqua Teen Hunger Force, but that itself does not justify its importance unto the mainstream. Not everything breaks the barrier between cult to mainstream acceptance, those are very rare occasions.

In the case of adult anime (non-hentai), shows like Evangelion and Paranoia agent have gained cult acceptance and not mainstream acceptance. When we are talking about anime's influence on American culture as a whole, we need to focus on the mainstream and not the superfluous cult followings. I know that anime fans see mature anime as a wide reaching phenomenon, or like to think it is, but it isn't. It is a very niches subgroup within the entertainment industry.

People like to give me examples of adult oriented anime series shown on cartoon network. I'm sorry folks, but cartoon network doesn't have the same clout as say the "Big" TV networks. Also, it seems to me that people who are new to anime also seem to forget that showing adult-oriented anime on Cable or Satellite tv isn't new.

Back in the 90s many cable channels like HBO, Cinemax, Showtime, Sci-Fi, Encore, Action, International, even MTV showed anime. Every time I hear people talk about how anime reached mainstream just because Cartoon Network is showing Fullmetal Alchemist, Gundam Seed, and such, makes me cringe. If you equate mainstream acceptance and popularity on what is shown on cable/satellite tv, than the 90s trumps the

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#25

Ahala on Thursday, December 29 @
Yes, Adult Swim was one of the bringer of anime ^^ as was Toonami ^_^ but with all the Anime-Imatators out there...well Teen Titens was good, as was Avatar some of the other where terable...I dont like how people are trying to pull off what the Japanese have perfected =) anime has been coming from Japan for a long time...but with some of the stuff in it.... i also think that thease shows can help kids grow to love anime with out the "bad" stuff in it xD well this is all i have to say
-Ahala

#26

Keburin on Thursday, December 29 @
I personally don't like this merging of cultures. What I enjoy about anime is the Japanese culture infused into it. For me, American imitations bring a cheap feel to anime.

What I'd like to see more of is Amercian style cartoons such as Thundercats, and X-men.

#27

killer12 on Friday, December 30 @
the boondocks is a good show but has black rasism

#28

killer12 on Friday, December 30 @
the boondocks is a good show but has black rasism

#29

killer12 on Friday, December 30 @
the boondocks is a good show but has black rasism

#30

strongbad87 on Friday, December 30 @
Okay maybe I'm at one end of the spectrum, I am waiting to see a good adult animation (non comedy) made by an american company, I am really optimistic about the whole thing, maybe its too much to hope for but who knows.
But byrc is at the total opposite end, and not that it's a bad things, but the world doesn't always work in total patterns, anime isn't a fad, it doesnt look like it's losing steam, there just is too strong of a community for people to grow out of it, and on to of that anime has the flexibility and range in titles to cater to all ages.
And I like what Keburin said, I think anime influences would be much better than a full on anime, I've seen shows do action very well, even if it is in a comedic or childish manner, some nickelodeon shows have some really slick action, if only a slightly bigger butdget and better storylines could be added, americans we give the japanese a run for their money.

#31

ForeverGoNe on Saturday, December 31 @
Amen brother.

There will only be 1 original way, and that is the japanese way.

No matter how much influence americans have, it'll never be as good as it does in Japan.

#32

ForeverGoNe on Saturday, December 31 @
Amen brother.

There will only be 1 original way, and that is the japanese way.

No matter how much influence americans have, it'll never be as good as it does in Japan.

#33

ForeverGoNe on Saturday, December 31 @
Amen brother.

There will only be 1 original way, and that is the japanese way.

No matter how much influence americans have, it'll never be as good as it does in Japan.

#34

ForeverGoNe on Saturday, December 31 @
Amen brother.

There will only be 1 original way, and that is the japanese way.

No matter how much influence americans have, it'll never be as good as it does in Japan.

#35

strongbad87 on Saturday, December 31 @
No offense ForeverGone, but your attitude is totally biased. People have becoming complete and total anime purists. Americans have produced some of the best animation, but since it is more kid targeted it's overlooked by older crowds. Look at The Incredibles, it's a great movie, it's slickly animated with awesome comic book style characters, pretty funny, and has amazing action sequences.
Just wait for the western world to produce something truly comparable with anime, and we can judge whether we have the capabilties to make a good adult animation.

#36

strongbad87 on Saturday, December 31 @
And byrc i finally got around to reading all of what you have to say, and Im not taking this personally I just like to argue.
I think you're right about mainstream percetion of anime being more kiddie shows. Maybe im jus hopeful that Americans will change this and make an adult western animation, like Spawn, or Batman (which is definitely one of THE best animated shows ever). We are capable of producing smart, adult animated shows, but is their an audience for one?

#37

byrc on Saturday, December 31 @
Well thats my point strongbad. The Anime community is definitely strong and I don't see it going away, but thats within the Otaku subculture and not the mainstream.

I agree with what you wrote at the end "....but is their an audience for one?" That's the real question.

I personally have nothing against american animation and too be honest, back in the 80s and 90s the American Animation studios had bigger budgets and spent more money than their Japanese counterparts. The real difference has to do with who they are marketing the cartoons to. This has slowly changed to the opposite, but American studios do have more money than the Japanese and that is a fact.

When I grew up I fell in love with Batman, X-men, Spider-man, and Exo-Squad. All of them were great and actually trump all the crap thats on saturday morning now. Those cartoons actually had plots and were more violent and mature themed than the cartoons that are on tv now.

Oddly enough Japanese anime has also lost its edge. Since the ant-media violence movement that spread through japan during the late 90s anime has slowly become less violnet and more Shonen friendly, which is what I'm not too happy about.

American are capable of producing smart, adult oriented animated shows, the problem is about whether there is a market for it and the TV networks see it as possible growth revenue.

#38

strongbad87 on Monday, January 02 @
Well im glad we settled that.
But I just thought of something to disprove your idea that anime isn't becoming accepted by the mainstream. If mainstream media doesn't see anime as something that would appeal to the masses, than why are there several big budget live action animes beng produced? Someone must see something in these titles.

#39

MothMan on Tuesday, January 03 @
What On Earth Do this Web Community as a Whole think that "Anime" is? It seems to be some new genre I never heard of but the fact is it just isnt.

It's ridiculous to think that Americans could make "Anime" because simply put we just cant. We are not Japanese and are not in Japan therefore thats why we cant call anything made anywhere but Japan Anime.

Anime is just the word used in japan to describe animated films or other productions using animation. It does not matter where it is made.

Thats why over 10 years ago the few of us who imported Japanese animated films reffered to them as "Japanimation." It was just just a westernized expression back then for animated content from Japan and it was a better term than "Anime" Disney film is Anime. Akira was Japanimation.

That is why America can never make anime, we can only copy Japanese art styles in an attempt to make prophet. Mark Execs who dreamt up the new "Teen Titans" cartoon and that genuinely crap "Avatar" were not thinking how much better Japan's art and Animation styles were, They were considdering the trend that kids at the moment preffered Them. Thus buy copying those styles they hoped to make money.

The Boondock's cartoon is not anime, it is an american title that uses Japanese animation styles because that was the comic strip originally looked. The Author was probably just a fan of that style so he used it. HE DID NOT WISH TO CREATE AN ANIME, just to use Japanese animation technique and art styling.

Why is this so hard for so many to grasp?

Onto another topic, dubbing. Dubbing is not done by the original japanese creators of the Japanimation series. American companies such as ADV films and funimation have staff dedicated to the task of dubbing the product they bring stateside. So the product has inferior quality voice work in the dubbing, but not because of the original creators of the content. It's just a matter of not paying much money for quality actors for the dub. Its not the english language is bad or hard to listen to, just the people who speak it in the dubs. To truly want to watch something in an INFERIOR QUALITY dub over the originally intended work just plain offends me. Also that the language barrier between America and Japan may be to great to translate 100%(even 75% for that matter) may have something to do with it. Also, for those poor saps at Cartoon Network who are sitting there scratching their heads wondering why Evangelion has not caught on, they should try watching what is possibly the worst dub conceived. (EVA)

Someone Posted that no matter how hard we try, America will never be up to the level that Japan is for anime. Well guess what, America wont even try. All the crap that is targeted at children and Young adults today is just being made up by marketing teams not by artists and then being given to others to animate. This kind of creation will always breed an inferior quality product. For a rather explicit explanation to what I've tried to say in writing go to Newgrounds.com and watch the
"New Bunny," and "Another New Bunny" cartoons by TLG Media featured in the parody section. (BTW Japanimation is still Generally not on par with what our animation Giants especially disney have accomplished in the past century far more than Japan could have hoped to and the great studio Ghibli heavily borrows from the directing and art styles used by Disney."

Pocket Monsters changed the way American Business looked at Japanimation, it went from being a joke rival to one of the biggest cash cows in Animation history, and they wanted in.

I think I addressed everything in this article and even a few of the posts so there.

#40

byrc on Wednesday, January 04 @
Strongbad, you just proved my point. If mature anime was taken seriously by the major media industry, then we should be seeing releases of major motion anime movies.

BTW, those live action anime's are based on EVA and Dragon Ball Z. With the exception of EVA, you know very well that DBZ will be marketed for the 12 and under crowd.

EVA is going to be interesting, but why not make it animated.

Oooooh, I know, it's because major motion picture companies don't see animation as a viable medium to sell entertainment to the Adult or teenage demographic.

I never argued the point that the American media industry doesn't piggy back on the Japanese animation industry. Heck they've been piggy-backing on japanese horror movies over the last 4 years.

My point still stands, anime is nothing more than a comodity to sell to the 12 and under crowd, or to modify and regurgitate into a more American friendly creation similar to what they've done to Japanese horror movie remakes.

I do hope one day that they'll take animation serious enough to sell to the older demographics, but I won't hold my breath

#41

byrc on Wednesday, January 04 @
American live-action adaptation of anime only proves that the Motion Picture companies see anime as a hot bed for unique original intellectual properties that they can sponge off of, not as a useful medium in which such ideas and properties may be conveyed through to the American mainstream.

#42

byrc on Wednesday, January 04 @
I'll end with this:

If (its a big if) EVA proves popular, then rest assure that anime will be in the mainstream spotlight. People will be asking where did such ideas and creativity comes from. Yet, that is only if it gains popularity, not cult popularity, but mainstream box office money making popularity. If this happens then I can agree that mature anime has strong footing into mainstream popularity.

But that is a BIG "IF".

#43

Bowser on Wednesday, January 04 @
The problem with mature anime gaining a foot hold in mainstreem westurn media is that the west still views cartoons as being for kids, and anime (no matter how mature) is still just a cartoon.
As for Europe being more in touch with Japanese influx of culture, yeah, I guess its true..... but we still dont get 24 hours sushi take aways.....
As anime on UK tele...that will take some time becuase of the negative stereotype of anime that most Brits have, mainly because of "legend of the overfiend".

#44

TerranLive on Friday, January 06 @
America is a proud nation even when there's no real center culture. I think America should be left the way it is, I mean, that's why America is such an odd ball. If you want Asian you go to a C, V, K , I, J -town, I'm sure there are towns through out the alphabet for every culture and religion in America. America to me is a home away from home, but if you're not th majority in your town you should stfu and adapt to where ever you live or move out. haha alittle harsh but true

#45

nosrettac on Friday, January 06 @
Anime is an art form, any one can draw it, it may not be the way you like but everyone has an opinion. Its also wrong to compair the art styles of most western artists and Japanese artists because there so different. You will also find other people that like american style animation over Anime. Like I said everyone likes different things and has an opinion. Like it or hate it Anime will change as will western art, its all up to the artists.

#46

ruly on Thursday, January 12 @
Anime influences american culture because is so great and every day is getting better well is not bad that a country gets influence and why is that because is shows that the world is changing and because something so amazing like anime goes around the world and gets acknowledged by everyone.

#47

danaiwat on Friday, January 13 @
Well, I think I would agree with the news because things have change a lot since then. My brother also told me that a japanese anime was really popular in America right now.

#48

angilic0 on Friday, January 13 @
i prefer japenese anie... they are more ...well.. "original"

#49

angilic0 on Friday, January 13 @
i prefer japenese anime ... they are more... well ... "original"

#50

nerr on Friday, January 13 @
I've seem to notice the influx of japan culture in north american society.
I kinda like avatar the air bender :x
i mean, it has a good plot and the drawing isn't all that bad.
Teentitans is okay i guess. They use anime expressions alot more even in unnessisary situations (like battling with an arch villian) which to Me kinda implies that they think exageratted expressions is what makes an anime an anime.
as for the boondocks, it's hillarious. Im not really sure how you can consider that an anime, by the art would you mean?
toonnami was fun for me growing up, kinda inspired me to get into anime.

#51

nerr on Friday, January 13 @
oh and also, new Stefani kinda scares me Dx

#52

Tyusa on Saturday, January 14 @
As strange as this may sound, I love Avatar: The Last Airbender. It has a great story.

#53

Chibibirdie on Sunday, January 15 @
Japanese anime isn't quite Japanese anymore, most animations are being sent to Korea to be animated.

Heh-heh, I guess we should call it Korean animation from now on.

Also, most American cartoons are now animated in Korea, like Family Guy and such.

Another thing to consider is that some Japanese manga/animation creators are using the Korean drawing style for some of their creations. So, most Japanese animations aren't what some of you have said to be "Original Japanese".

And concerning Pokemon, that animation did a lot to help push Japanese Animation into America, a lot more than one would think. Sure, we had Sailor Moon and Dragon Ball Z on the television, but those didn't help as much as Pokemon.

When a toy company owner (I've completely forgot his name, sorry about that), went to Japan (which he did a lot to see the latest), Pokemon interested him and he believed that it would do great in America. The people who owned Pokemon at first disagreed thinking that kids in America only liked American-things and most likely won't understand the culture. But they finally gave in and sent it over.

Pokemon soon became a smash hit and showed that Japanese animation wasn't so bad, which soon opened the rift to other Japanese animations.

Heh-heh, a long ways it came.

The Boondocks is a very funny comic, though the animation I have to not go with. The animation is slick and nice, but the voice acting could do some work. I have to say for a newspaper comic it is doing great as an animation. Most newspaper comics don't do well when animated. At least, that's my opinion.

#54

Chibibirdie on Sunday, January 15 @
Actually, another thing to consider is that if the Pokemon creators thought that American kids won't understand the Japanese culture, what about other animators and creators? Did they also thought the same way and decided not to bring anything over? Heh-heh, who knows.

#55

azntrojan on Tuesday, January 17 @
It will be interesting to see what American mangakas can make, but I believe the most interesting and exciting mangas will come from Japan. and yes Gwen Stefani scares me deeply sometimes...lol!

#56

lilfairy on Wednesday, January 18 @
"Avatar: The Air Bender " rules !! i can't believe its an american anime ... its almost as good as the jap ones, America really has something going this time

#57

Bowser on Wednesday, January 18 @
Its odd how ppl are surprised to find out that Avatar is western mad.....yeah, it does have the style......but the animation clearly looks American....I could tell as soon as I saw it....it has that....how do I explain.....clear cut cleanless (hope you get what I mean) that most Western cartoons have....

#58

aramina on Thursday, January 19 @
It really seems like anime's practically taken over everything, and I love it! It was really cool to watch Kill Bill and see the anime segment and find out later it was done by Production IG! I know a lot of people who don't like the fact that anime is influencing so much of american culture, but I just think it's awesome.

#59

cronik on Thursday, January 19 @
I saw an episode of Avatar. It's pretty good, really. I was a bit embarassed because it was a kid's series, but my first impression was that it was a Japanese animation with good character voicing. The episode I watched was interesting, and I would have seen another episode, if I had cable.

#60

dimitri01 on Friday, January 20 @
Avatar is a great show. The only problem is that Nick does not seem to be able to tell time. I keep changing the settings on my DVR to record the show starting five minutes earlier and they have some special that starts the show on the quarter hour.

#61

hatefulguts on Sunday, January 22 @
I don't really want to side with Japanese or American manga--I just seem to be more attracted to the Japanese ones. I've thought about it a lot, and decided that overall, Japanese manga/anime seems to be more sophisticated than the English.

In part, it's how they draw; it looks more hand-drawn Japanese style, and American lines seem to be a lot harder and distract from the actual content. Plus, Japanese manga is more subtle and oftentimes appeals more to my morbid side. But still, there are a lot of American manga out there that are very well done.

And about Avatar--I don't want to knock it or anything, but the character designs, storyline, and personalities make me cringe. It all seems kind of flat to me, but then maybe I'm just prejudiced because I know it's American. (Or maybe I'm just odd...)

#62

choloxsports on Tuesday, January 24 @
Anime is becoming more and more popular!!! That is a good thing yet I don't like the dubbing done on good Japaneese anime. I rather have networks sub them

#63

Ferretmage on Wednesday, January 25 @
Teen Titans is one the best American "anime" esque shows out there, hands down.

#64

Edvin on Thursday, January 26 @
I don't care who makes it, and I don't care if it's an anime or just cartoons. I love Johny Bravo equally much as Azumanga Daioh. Give me solid entertainment, and I'm all for it. (Although I have to admit a sharp spike in Asian culture interest in the US. Sadly, people are still ignorant, and probably more than ever since now they have access to "some" information on the non-US world, about what international community is all about. Half-baked knowledge and unconscientious ignorance is the worst thing you can do to someone else.)

#65

ringu84 on Tuesday, January 31 @
It would be good when animes and mangas were respected in Hungary to, because the people here think these are stupid cartoons.

Ps.:I watch the seires Avatar on the german Nickalodeon. It's not bad, I like it.

#66

theprophet05 on Tuesday, January 31 @
Its unfortunate but with the anime world becoming more mainstream it makes it more easy for the B*****s to make anime worse for others ie (dbz eng dub) and others i for one want it to take its time...so that the animes keep from getting ruined by comming to america...and you cant tell me im wrong because its really bad to hear Voice Actors who would be better off doing kid's cartoons than an anime like AIR TV or Mai HiME...well atelast thats my opinion

#67

einhander743 on Thursday, February 02 @
yeah!! i have to agree coz you can see anime everywhere, and its kind of great that the animeworld is becoming mainstream, to tell you tha truth i like eastern anime than western but avatar is cool, me and my friends watch it on the american neckelodeon...

#68

Zeleya30 on Saturday, February 04 @
yeah to japanese animes and mangas, i believe american mangas can't compete

even though Stefani's cd is influenced with japanese culture, there're some ppl who believe that Stefani's music video of "Hollaback girl" is racist cuz if u listen closely u will hear a part that goes: . . .yellow as a banana
there is even the rumor that Stefani hired the Harajuku girls to do what she tells them to do

#69

kimmy12 on Thursday, February 23 @
yah i've watched some of the american anime but seriously it's kinda childish. i enjoy japenese anime the most and manga.
america anime and manga are really dull. i started reading all these old manga series and they're lots of fun. ichingo 100% (i got this one from this website) and fullmetal alchemist. avatar is detailed but it isn't really funny and really childish. Besides that i think it's pretty neat. It's nothing compared to japense anime though hahaha
yeah!!! =D

#70

Hime-chan on Sunday, April 02 @
[@bryc] neh, acutally it also comes on several other stations thats on" cable" like G4 Tech, and even channels like Disnney, ( hints "jet x") ( and anime unnleashed, AND there is also abc family, that has jet x. they all are cable, and even more, theres fox,wb, and abc that has some sort of anime on it aswell. and no not american A., acutlal anime, like shaman king onepeice, Yu-gi-oh,pokemon, ect,.. hmm then I rememebr reading on a magazine that there was going to be a new station that has, anime 24/7.. or was it a commercal... which I just reread and noticed you mentioned it. a "dead' x-x, oh well..anyways the point is there is more then you are giving credit, but yes america has ripped them to peices.. though.. offside of adult swim, and anime unleashed.. >>',...

#71

Artion on Saturday, April 22 @
Sure, I definitely agree with you, strongbad87, that America actually "tries" to develop anime popularity in general public. However, as I seen from several other countries in Asia like Korea, China, Taiwan, etc., etc., it is likely to Hollywood or any other production to start developing the anime industry in America. It takes more then that - we need to have whole entirely new production company to rise in order to develop anime/manga industry. Several Asian countries tried to climb and dared to overcome Japanese anime/manga industries. Results? Utter failure. Yeah, America might be different in that they already had firm foundation for certain "comics." However, comics are totally different from a genre called animation and manga. We definitely need more time to develop better graphics, better style, and better story line (which counts the most in my opinion.)

#72

potgas_ace on Saturday, April 29 @
hmm.. for me i like to read japan manga because their manga cute.. simple and can surely understand what it all about.. moreover first comic i read is Dragon Ball. Then, after that i collect many manga japan including death note, naruto etc.. i agree to all what they said.. ok bb (^_^)

#73

123xyz on Tuesday, May 02 @
your right it is a move in the right direction but we will never be as good as the japs

#74

ironstove on Thursday, August 17 @
It's just a fad and like all fads it will die down. As long as a majority of people don't know what's going on then it will never be a way of life.

#75

IgotHigh113 on Sunday, August 20 @
what type of software is boondocks using to make there cartoon

#76

emmanuelle on Monday, September 11 @
Avatar?the legend of Aang?its very cool you know!?but in our place...they always views those same episodes...that's why i dont eventually watch it anymore...

#77

Electroiac724 on Friday, October 20 @
I have seen a rise with "anime-inspired", if you will, american cartoons. Not that I mind that though. I just don't want to see American cartoons loose their style nor Japanese cartoons loose their style. In other words, I don't want to go turn to the Simpsons one day and see Bart look like Astro Boy for the rest of the season or see Abel Nightrod looking like Peter from Family Guy. I know, that's one hell of a comparison XD.

One thing you have to remember, anything that starts to become popular in America, especially if it's entertainment, Hollywood is going to take notice. Now I don't mind some American cartoonist who has a love for anime decides to create his show that kinda resembles anime. Hell, I'm working on my own manga. But I don't want anime and manga to become so mainstream that it looses it's, let's say, aunthenticy.

As far as those Harajuku girls go......pffft. I long knew about Harajuku/Shibuya street fashion way long before Gwen decided to jump in on the fun. No offense to Gwen. I have always loved her from No Doubt to solo ^^. Will Japanese street fashion ever take over America? Umm no, in a way. Because there is some street fashion in Japan that will get you laughed at for days in America. To be honest, some of it's quite ugly. I said SOME. And yes, the Europeans seem to do their otakuness way much better then us Americans. I'm telling you, they have some of the best anime sites.

Somebody mention how alot of anime get's created in Korea by Koreans and can we call it Japanese animation anymore? I think we can. The story plot is still created by the Japanese and produced by them (the Koreans really just do the drawing, but I guess who does the drawing is much more important). But there are still alot of Japanese who do the drawing too. I guess it depends on who the production company gets.

Besides, Koreans have their own animation that is a little bit more different in style from Japanese animation. But there is some smiliarities. But hey, that's another subject within it's self.

#78

Asiankid on Tuesday, November 07 @
The new shows are cool and all but they will never love up the the original thing.

#79

rustam on Friday, January 05 @
Hmm...i think is okey

#80

rustam on Friday, January 05 @
Hmm...i think is okey

#81

bilikis on Sunday, January 27 @
Well It's all good saying Americas this and America that but we all have to face facts that without Americas super power image, Japanese animation would not have been seen by so many nor known world wide as it is today. Well it started with Dragon Ball Z and then the world got to see other animes such as naruto, bleach, avatar an etc. I live in Britain, even though we dont get all the shows as fast as we would like but thankfully I was able to get to see these shows, which has allowed me to know about other animes. The only negative is when they change the anime from the original because I prefer the original most of the time.

P.s. It's nice and about time that the Japanese got recegnition for their great anime they produce. :o)

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