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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:17 pm Post subject:
I do believe in Ying and Yang, but I believe more in karma. Ill elaborate later, right now Im lazy... _________________ Miku Miku!!
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:43 pm Post subject:
frozen_chicken wrote:
i really dont believe in that ying and yang or karma stuff,
first of all the world isnt fair which proves my point
No one really gets what they deserve, all those disabled people dont have a choice in their life.
The choices to their lives aren't decided by them, but its effected before they were even born by their parents. Anything defective had a flaw in the process of its making, not necessarily humans. I believe everything happens for a reason and every action has its consequences. One life is some way linked to another and ultimately one person can effects people that they don't even know of because of karma or a single action.
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:50 pm Post subject:
1ce wrote:
frozen_chicken wrote:
i really dont believe in that ying and yang or karma stuff,
first of all the world isnt fair which proves my point
No one really gets what they deserve, all those disabled people dont have a choice in their life.
The choices to their lives aren't decided by them, but its effected before they were even born by their parents. Anything defective had a flaw in the process of its making, not necessarily humans. I believe everything happens for a reason and every action has its consequences. One life is some way linked to another and ultimately one person can effects people that they don't even know of because of karma or a single action.
reminds me of determinism which is basically that all events including those made by humans are based on the cause and effect principle at an atomic level (or even lower i dont know). the universe is shaped by the causal relationship of matter. because everything is composed of material, even the human brain and theoretically, human consciousness
so determinist believe that the fate of the world was decided in one moment > the big bang. we're just living the repercussions. our future is determined, we have no choice. sucks huh? well i dont believe it anyway. ^this is what happens when you spend too much time on Wikipedia lol
yin/yang sound too neat for me. things happen and thats just it.
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:21 pm Post subject:
CGY wrote:
Not really... Ying Yang is just like another religions, in which I don't believe at them at all...
well, i think yin and yang even appeals to a total atheist, like you cgy. basically, its karma, it basically states what we do affects more than just ourselves. and that there are good choices and bad choices, and they both have diffrent consequences yada yada yada...
do you belivve humans have any point other than to exsist? _________________ CAIN is MY whore. touch him and die.
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Not really... Ying Yang is just like another religions, in which I don't believe at them at all...
Huh... I don't think Yin and Yang themselves are a religion... I know they are an element of Taoism, which can be considered a religion (although some people argue about it), but Yin and Yang can be believed in by non-taoists too as an individual element or philosophical current.
CGY wrote:
ladyarakune wrote:
do you belivve humans have any point other than to exsist?
Yes, to be dead... living, in the end, is death, which is somehow the only reason they exist...
If humans exist to die, then why bother existing in the first place? when you die you cease, dissapear, vanish etc, etc. Therefore, you stop existing. If you exist to stop, it is more eficient to not even start in the first place. There must be an objective other than that.
I believe living things do have reasons to exist. What those reasons are? no clue. Definitely not to change cosmic orders or anything of that sort, but at the very least to enjoy living. or at least to breed others to do the same thing. What would be the point of reproduction then? _________________
Joined: Jul 15, 2005 Posts: 1876 Location: your guess is as good as mine
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 10:39 pm Post subject:
1ce wrote:
frozen_chicken wrote:
i really dont believe in that ying and yang or karma stuff,
first of all the world isnt fair which proves my point
No one really gets what they deserve, all those disabled people dont have a choice in their life.
The choices to their lives aren't decided by them, but its effected before they were even born by their parents. Anything defective had a flaw in the process of its making, not necessarily humans. I believe everything happens for a reason and every action has its consequences. One life is some way linked to another and ultimately one person can effects people that they don't even know of because of karma or a single action.
Ice> Karma and Ying Yang just seems like an excuse for why things happen, its sort of like a mathematical equation that explains reasons for why things happen in theory but in reality it can be totally different. Believing in things too much can make it real in your mind.
Joined: Aug 01, 2004 Posts: 140 Location: I Can't Remember
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:25 am Post subject:
yin and yang are quite a bit different from karma
yin and yang in no way means that people get what they deserve, it just means, that no matter what is going on, there are forces that oppose it
forcing everything into a sort of bouncing equilibrium (the moves back and forth, but kind of bounces across the middle and is on each side an approximately equal amoutn of time)
this seems somewhat stupid and over simplified, but karma is almost like you have a running point system for good/bad/neutral deeds, more good points you get the better your life/happiness/luck, reverse is true for bad points
CGY, i don't know wtf you're talking about with excising evil, from what i've read of your opinions you are too busy scorning something, because you think it is based in religion, to realize its something thats just plain logical. No faiths/gods/heavens/hells/nothingnesses about it
these are both just ideas to try and explain why things in life happen, one stating that too much of one thing has happened to you, you need to know what the other side is like, and the other saying that because you have acted in certain ways, you will affected in that same way
both make a fair share or sense, even though a combination of the two would probably be even more correct
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Joined: Jul 22, 2005 Posts: 8164 Location: la la land
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 1:37 am Post subject:
Duthek> agree with you. yin and yang is not all about karma, and its certainly not a religion, though its all relative. _________________ "Look at me, with my pretty bracelet and tiara... I'm a fuckin' princess!"
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hey sugar sugar!!! been missin ya~! lotta gay sh** has been going on since u've been away ~!
anyways..i'm surprised as to how many ppl don't beleive in yin and yang. I believe in it on some level, but sometimes i think that the bad or the worse possible things in life just usually devours the good....so how can this theory be justified when it doesn't appear to be balanced!?
perhaps there's some balance in everything and we're just too blind to see it...or perhaps our universal traits as humans and living flesh just hinder us from seeing the balance(ying and yang) in life~!
however, despite what many skeptics believe, i want to put faith in the ying and yang theory~! _________________
Joined: Jul 22, 2005 Posts: 8164 Location: la la land
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 10:34 pm Post subject:
hay kay!
yin and yang is just a balance of all things, guess i would call it some sort of metaphor _________________ "Look at me, with my pretty bracelet and tiara... I'm a fuckin' princess!"
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