Downloading anime = Bad?

[iMarc]

downloading any copyrighted stuff are bad... but people do it anyways.

So same for anime, if it's licenced, it's bad cause the maker is lossing profit from DVD sales. However like naruto and bleach it's good for them cause it's another way for advertisement. In the end or in the begining of most bleach epsiode it has that "sponsored by bandai" thing. Therefore
people who downloads it helps advertise the anime. Othere people tells 2 friends about naruto, and those friends tells another 2 friends and so on... Then boom, you see people from north america othering naruto toys/stuff in japan.

Plus most people might also want buy dvd for naruto/bleach/and other anime because they might just want to watch a good quality on there home tv or on their TV on their Van.

In the end theres always going to by people who watches or buy pirated anime and other movies.

[taibabi]

OMG.. I think I'm a bad person.. I download a lot and.. i think i've never buy the DVD (hmm, but in indonesia/other country there are a lot of pirated-CDs... that's bad too i guess)
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[Doraemon10]

Does this mean that if i continue to download naruto it's gonna stay crappy 4ever!!!
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[MothMan]

This is a real interesting topic. The keypoints in the thinking behind it are who benefits, who loses, and what are the possible benefits to the money making end.

The people most concerned with profits are the company trying to bring the anime or manga state-side, the publisher in Japan, and the original Author. The Internet is one hell of an information medium, and almost any information desired can be found on the thing. Thus it is also a strong method for advertising and doing business. Fansubbing is done by non profitting groups, whose true goals remain unknown to myself, but what they share is the original work altered only by adding translated text. To the very best of my knowledge, through whatever medium they may be downloading, there is no direct profit being made by people creating these fan subbed works. There does seem to be an obvious profit loss for someone in the profit loop by people watching an anime or reading a Manga that is fan subbed or translated.

On the other hand, this method of spreading a series can also be a good cheap method of spreading word of the existance of that series. Naruto was already known by and popular by so many people because of fan translating. But, many people have already watched the series and read the manga so would they buy a new professional and 100% okay release for something that they already have seen? I think that answer is that yes some would, but very, very few. This would logically lead to a decrease in profits.

Cartoon Network has already begun showing the Naruto Anime during its Toonami run. The show is targeting a daytime audience which will include kids still in grade school. This audience has not likely yet seen fansubbed versions of the series and will want to catch the Cartoon Network run of the series. I would like to think that Cartoon Network would not lose profit from an older audience not watching their program, but because of the large number of fans today who were brought into Anime by Cartoon Network, I would have to say that yes, it probably will be affected.

I should now bring up this site's apparent afiliation to ADV. ADV is a company that must be affected by fan subbing and translating by some degree or other. If it was negatively, I would think that ADV would try and shut down this site and others like it, attacking with lawyers and all sorts of other scary things.

It seems though, that ADV is indeed not negatively affected by these acts or the actions of this site. In fact it is even a listed affiliate of your site which leads one to believe that fan subbing is having a positive affect on ADV. How is this affect positive? I really dont know, but it sure makes for possible good conversation.

[Reeder5002]

no argument can be generated to say that dling anime isnt wrong. No matter what, your stealing the intelectual property of hard working japanese animators. The feed their kids with the money they make from naruto and such and every dl is like taking a spoonfull of food away from that child. Ok its not that drastic and people can get away with downloading it and saying, "well its the only way i can get it and i wouldnt buy it anyway" but no matter what. its wrong.
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[chiachiaz]

it's so wrong, y's it feel so right!

[Ani_MaSTeR]

i dont download my anime.
i buy all the series i like and those i dont know, just to watch them.
but im not different from u, i watch dled anime, but i dont think it destroys the industry, i guess it both promotes and costs the industry.
but the groups that still distribute after an anime is licensed, i think they're the ones sucking the blood outta this great industry. if u read teh postings on animesuki about licensed animes, the groups are sent a letter from the studios both american and or japanese nicely asking them to stop distribution. they can easily sue them and win, but they dont, very nice people they are.
...think i kinda got carried away and off topic.
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[Ulmo]

For me, dling is the only option. Its not because i couldn't afford it but they just dont sell them here .)

[Elvin]

are you going to stop if it is bad?

[Ulmo]

hell no

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[Sohjua]

people are not gonna stop downloading anime 4 the simply fact that it is free. i am an animeholic, i have bought loads of anime dvd's but if there is a series out that i can't buy i will download it 4 sure. is this bad? HELL YEAH. but while its so easy to get i can't help myself

[gundamcat]

I download anime and also buy anime so I dont think I'm doing any harm If I like the anime that I downloaded I might buy it such as I downloaded elfen lied and going to buy it in awhile when I have the money

uh it's bad if you downloaded anime too much but if you just download some and also buy I think it evens out so uh yeah

[Jin_Roh]

i think it's ok to download teasers or trailers but not whole animes...pay for it like a true anime fan would do.
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[xxDKxx]

I don't think DLing anime is wrong as long as it is unlicensed. After a series gets licensed i usually stop DLing it and wait for it to come out on DVD. DLing anime is like finding if you like the series and if you do i think it's worth it to buy it. I'd rather not buy a series i doon't like and has no replay value. Paying for an anime is also a good thing because it helps support the company. People might say taht even though they don't pay for it there are still lots of other people to pay but if a lot of people say that the company loses a lot of revenue. Also, if you support a company by buying their stuff they can make more anime that you might enjoy. If you like anime enough i think you should be willing enough to pay for it. having no money isn't really an excuse since lots of people can get allowance or get a job. When i first started buying anime all i got was lunch money for the week which would be my allowance and i'd sacrifice my lunch to buy DVDs. I also prefer DLing the anime before it gets licensed and put out on American TV because i don't like dubs and prefer subs since i think that the translations sometimes come out better.