vg violence affecting the youth of tommorow?

silverkitsune · Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 2:14 pm Post subject:

I think the problem lies in the guns themselves. It's undeniable fact that countries that don't allow guns to civilians have dramatically low crime rate. Take Seoul for example, you could stroll around dark alleys in that city every night without any fear of getting robbed or attacked by some hooligans. When people don't have guns, they don't think of ways to use them in crimes. I'd say it's much better to have robbers with knife than guns. When a man has a gun in his hand, he feels empowered.
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Bowser · Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 3:49 pm Post subject:

demonic19 · Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 1:41 am Post subject:

no video game violence does not affect kids like every one says most of it is that the parents and the media want a scape goat to say why someone would do somthing like a school shoothing but what realy needs to happen is that they need to look closer to there own homes i am not saying that it could happen (there are a lot of sick people out there) but they need to ask the guy/girl what is happining at home not waht videogames that they are playing sry let me get of my soap box
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Cornel · Yari Ashigaru Joined: Dec 05, 2004 Posts: 290

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i dont think so, as people, can tell the difference between reality and the playing of games, even younger ones. youd have to be very badly schizophrenic before you started to think that.

byrc · Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 2:10 pm Post subject:

Cornel,

Isn't that how scientific theory is developed. As scientists, we look for correlations, and memes are a subconscious system that as you said discounts strong information, but it also disregards weak information as well. We look at information with a type "info-filter" always on. We filter information 24-7 and not eveything goes through. Depending on who you ask, some scientists and active Professors will tell you that theory is nothing more than a conjecture, and that science is self is nothing more than a temporary medium set to hold contemporary correlated "truths". Some even say that theory isn't any different than scientific postulates. Although I agree that existentialism is an anti-intellectual movement; to say that science it self is based on pure concrete fact is a bit pretentious. Our minds use memes to construct conjectures, and we do the same thing with science. Information is nothing more than a illusionary representation of scattered facts. We deem fact to be concerete, as a way to make sense of what we do and how the world works. It's part of our nature create logical theorems as way to work the with world around us.

What does this have to do with violence and video games? Well, information we gather in such scientific studies show correlation is a fickle thing. As scientists we look for patterns and as human beings we look for order. Whether this order and pattern represents reality is a totally different problem in itself. Sometimes we get it right and sometimes we don't; that's why certain scientific discoveries and postulates are refuted and disappear from the sphere of what is accepted by the scientific community.
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Cornel · Yari Ashigaru Joined: Dec 05, 2004 Posts: 290

"The weak and poetic reports of existentialism don't measure with stronger scientific finding"

If there was anything else put towards my post, I apologize for being too long winded. That sentence was all I was attempting to put across. I picked on existentialists since they don't really talk about mirror neuron cells. If you watch a video of someone being patted on the back, your momentary reaction is not your decision to also feel that pat on the back.
If witnesses of murders started to kill people, I think idea that playing violent video games leading to killing people would have more substance. Other than that, the aggressive brain pattern that occurs in video game players is not all that impressive or dangerous to society.

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subzero · Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 12:28 pm Post subject:

hmm... I think it based on your own mind and psycology... if you are the type of who like to do violence then by any means you'll be like it...but just as I sayed ... it is based on your own mind then you yourself has to choose either the good choice or bad one...

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chinadude310 · Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 6:51 pm Post subject:

I think we woulk be in denial if we are to say it doesn't effect people AT ALL. However, it is not the videogame that cause violence. There are many other influences too, I think videogame just happens to get blamed since it's an easy target.

ssjohn · Heimin (Commoner) Joined: Sep 18, 2005 Posts: 59

i do and i dont think vg's effect ppl..

for kids under 18 shouldnt be playing GTA i mean i think if a 12 year old is playing GTA there mite be some problumes..

but i think for adults and such to play them its fine..

i think PARENTS need to start paying attention to the ESRB.. im thinking the next thing ESRB will do is insted of haveing a cover for the game they will have a big M on the cover >_>

i personly play FPS im not going to go out there and think b/c i played HALO i think every1 can die and just hit restart..

im also mad at fox they took the famous video game killer line and added it into one of there show's (Killer instincted i think its called >_<) " Life is just a video game everyone dies sometime" >_>