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v-boi2002 Leerooyy Jenkiiins!!!


Joined: Mar 08, 2005 Posts: 7548 Location: Beaverton, Oregon
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 5:33 pm Post subject: Who Determines what is "Cool"? |
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In my marketing class, we went over how teenagers thought one thing was cool at one point, but then something else was cool at another point. The question is this:
Do teens determine what is "cool", then marketers make and promote those products?
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Do marketers determine what they want to be "cool", then use marketing to tell teens what they should be buying? _________________
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xenon10 Jikan Samurai

Joined: Oct 25, 2005 Posts: 933 Location: Cebu, Philippines
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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No, I don't think it's either. I think it's the media. Media like artists, models and idols. Medias are a great influence to teenagers; I mean they're glued to it 24/7.
Usually, marketers follow what these teenagers view. SOme even take surveys teenagers for their preferences. So, I guess it's still teenagers. Haha |
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v-boi2002 Leerooyy Jenkiiins!!!


Joined: Mar 08, 2005 Posts: 7548 Location: Beaverton, Oregon
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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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But marketers sometimes use the media to help promote their products, don't they? Don't they get popular celebrities and such to help endorse their products? _________________
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Bowser The Very Lonely Wolf

Joined: Mar 26, 2005 Posts: 8282 Location: stuck in tard tard land
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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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Its a bit of both realy....advertising is nothing more than propoganda that influences us without us even realising it.
On the other hand, if a consumer no longer like somthing or thinks its no longer fashionable, then word of mouth can influence things a great deal.
For example, the way the pkmn franshise was boomed into the west and was advertised as being the best game/toy/anime about....we baught into that......but because it dragged on, many ppl started having more negative views about it, and thanks to word of mouth/enternet, it is seen in a bad light, despite the marketers trying their best to get it back into fashion.
So yeah...it goes hand in hand... |
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XeroAlpha Heimin (Commoner)

Joined: Dec 17, 2005 Posts: 55
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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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| It's the teens I would say, because the marketers base their products on what teens are currently interested. But that's my opinion >_> |
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omegavii Heimin (Commoner)

Joined: Dec 17, 2005 Posts: 53
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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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There is no doubt that marketing/sales departments of corporations drive current popular trends. Individual teenagers does not have proper access channels to propagate their message, ie what is cool, across a wide medium. Whereas marketing departments can simply spend a few million on MTV and Clear Channel to advertise their products over and over and over again until people catches onto the message.
There are some exceptions and some trends are formed by word of mouth. Blogging for example. Most trends however, are directed by corporations in order to make profits. |
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Ani_MaSTeR Mr. Lolipedo-Fin


Joined: Jun 04, 2005 Posts: 1830
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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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hmmm....
i guess its the industry that plants the ideas in the audiences head. then the audience buys it, then they walk around and everyone sees it. resulting in more people seeing/ buying, hence cycle repeat.
well, thats what i think anyways. _________________ [img:567:138:151453bb6b]http://www.anime-source.com/upload/uploadFiles/wahagifsda.gif[/img:151453bb6b]
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ch1nkaling newbie!

Joined: Dec 02, 2005 Posts: 40 Location: somewhere out there
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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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Both, it's a cycle. Marketers send people to find unique teens whose styles they end up deeming special and cool. They then sell it back to teenagers who buy it and make that the new trend. but as soon as that settles as the new trend, something else will then be unique and special, thus marketers will sell that as the new cool, thus repeating the cycle. _________________ "Victory can be anticpated, but never assured." - SunTzu's Art of War
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P96Ambnl Heimin (Commoner)

Joined: Nov 22, 2005 Posts: 50
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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 12:14 am Post subject: |
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i determine what i think is cool O_o _________________ "shut up when your talking to me!" |
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Jin_Roh Conscript

Joined: Oct 19, 2005 Posts: 181 Location: Western Australia
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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 7:40 am Post subject: |
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I do cause i say so...so there!!  _________________ [img:206:104:434aeede5e]http://www.narutofan.com/images/skin_plus/feat_eyeshield21.jpg[/img:434aeede5e]
"Sex is a sport, like raquet ball, you work hard for half an hour, work up a sweat and hope you don't get hit in the eye." |
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xenon10 Jikan Samurai

Joined: Oct 25, 2005 Posts: 933 Location: Cebu, Philippines
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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 9:23 am Post subject: |
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hmmm...bowser's right. they come hand-in-hand, like jack and jill(lame comparison).
but some can be placed under classifications
example: wat i've said, media influences the teenagers...on clothes. they are the ones who determine what's hot and what's not in the fashion world.
when it comes to household or hygienic products, that's where the medis gets artists "to advertise" for them. amd as it progresses, it's still like the media influencing the kids. but they worked together.
was that understandable?
for me, it actually depends. i don't choose my clothes cuz their j lo's style, but whether it fits me. some people just don't know that tubes and tank tops don't look good on them. <<<those are fashion victims. XP |
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v-boi2002 Leerooyy Jenkiiins!!!


Joined: Mar 08, 2005 Posts: 7548 Location: Beaverton, Oregon
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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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Hmm. Perhaps I should have added a 'both' option. _________________
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the_waltz Naginata Ashigaru

Joined: Oct 23, 2005 Posts: 518 Location: T.O.
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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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teens don't know jack about what's actually cool; neither does the media
i'm telling ya, it's the government that decides |
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1ce Retired Forumer

Joined: Jul 31, 2005 Posts: 9275 Location: Somewhere in CANADA
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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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| What I believe is that the marketers give out the message that things are "cool" and certain teens obtain that message and use it at school or anywhere saying so and so is "cool". Its basically a cycle where the message is given by whatever company (I.E. Commercial or advertisements) and it gets to social groups as cool. |
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v-boi2002 Leerooyy Jenkiiins!!!


Joined: Mar 08, 2005 Posts: 7548 Location: Beaverton, Oregon
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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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| the_waltz wrote: |
teens don't know jack about what's actually cool; neither does the media
i'm telling ya, it's the government that decides |
the...*gulp*...government? no, not the government!!
..why is it the government? _________________
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