What do you think about Apple computers?

f3 · newbie! Joined: Jan 28, 2006 Posts: 11

although there are less virses for them they are still a major pain to fix if something does go wrong...

Notagumshoe · newbie! Joined: Dec 31, 2005 Posts: 5

Blackthorn, I don't see why Mac OS X being on Unix is a bad thing. Does a company switching the core of its platform to a more secure and widely used coding make it worthless? Perhaps I am misunderstanding what you are saying but why would anyone fluent in Unix laugh at added command line options for a system based in Unix. Is it just that they have been available in other versions of unix platforms? If so what ones?
I am also confused by your conflicting statements of ï¿½Honestly i think that mac's are a fucking joke.ï¿½ and ï¿½The mac OS is extrodenarily[sic] reliable, but you can't tweak it in any real wayï¿½. Have you been using windows so long that you care more for tweakablity over stability? Furthermore tweakablity has more to do with your skill as a programer than the operating system itself. You suggest that Linux is the way of the future yet it is very similar to OS X in terms of architecture. Also Linux is very much the aim of the industry but not the end user industry. It is used in many of the servers you interact with throughout the internet, but software developers donï¿½t want to deal with a product that lacks the usability of other platforms.
Within the next year you will be able to run windows programs on a Mac a near native speeds thanks to the intel switch. All the programs of windows without having to tweak it to make it run.

vanglo and Frundock, the truth is the PowerBooks with a G4 processor isnï¿½t the fastest machine on the block and it hasnï¿½t been for sometime. Iï¿½m useing an almost two year old PowerBook and not much has changed in the speed between the new PowerBooks and mine. Frundockï¿½s comments about the Intel CoreDuo in the MacBook Pro being a lot faster than the old powerbooks is rather weak. The chip is faster than most any other laptop chip on the market no matter who makes it. Who cares it intel chips have traditionally been used in Windows machines? Does the Xbox 360 suck any more or less because it has a traditionally Apple processor? No, it doesnï¿½t. Both IBM chips and Intel chips have their place. I would think that Apple switching to Intel chips would be seen as a positive thing to everyone out there.

Frundock, I just want to make sure you understand why the majority of artists still use Apple machines. Even though software for designing purposes are available for the Windows platform artist donï¿½t like to put up with the crap of windows. They like to have several applications open and running without bogging down their system or crashing it. I would like to go into more depth but Iï¿½ve got to go to sleep I have a certification test tomorrow. Iï¿½ll try to post more later.

Notagumshoe · newbie! Joined: Dec 31, 2005 Posts: 5

I'm sorry but I just read another person saying that Macs are a pain to fix when something goes wrong. What do you do when a Windows machine gets messed up that is so much easier than a Mac? You reinstall the program, reboot your computer and then what? Do a google to read how someone else fixed it and then do their tedious fix. Honestly you know nothing about Macs if you think they are hard to fix. You can read one book that will take you maybe a week and you can repair all but extreme problems on a Mac. Wait thats wrong, you can read three chapters and fix over half of the problems you will ever encounter. I work on Macs to help pay for school and I've only been using them for about two years. Please tell me what is so difficult to fix on a Mac that is so easy to fix on a PC. BE SPECIFIC. If you have incountered a problem on a Mac and you didn't know how to fix it on the Mac tell me about it. Just please give me specifics about what makes Macs harder to work on than Windows machines.

emotionreckless · Naginata Ashigaru Joined: Aug 23, 2005 Posts: 473

i think apple are begin to gain back their name.. i mean pc keep on comin out new stuff but everytime they coming out ..new and more equitmemt neeed to be add when apple does not. plus apple does look more clean and more fashion than pc.
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Notagumshoe · newbie! Joined: Dec 31, 2005 Posts: 5

One more thing before I go. If you are wondering about coding on a Mac check out this page for the fluff verson. http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/unix/

Frundock · Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 9:39 am Post subject:

vanglo · Heimin (Commoner) Joined: Dec 21, 2005 Posts: 76

I know that Powerbook is not the fast thing out. If you go back and read my statement it says "it's the fastest I have ever owed". And obviously I haven't owned every possible laptop. Now I'll reinterate why excactlly I believe that the only reason most of you think Apple is crap is simply because your hater with now real info. Apple OS is simple and easy to use point blank. Sure Windows is user friendly, but I my opinion Tiger is just better for me as a musician as far as recording. Intell chip or G4 that shit doesn't matter the reason Apple are so reliable I believe is because they are not as dependent on third party software and hard ware. Sure they use some, but not nearly as mush as a PC. Don't believe, me look at all those damn sticker on the front of your tower and the names on the back your display.

ChiNammer · Conscript Joined: Sep 06, 2005 Posts: 118

I saw on tv the other day that MACs will be using intel technology soon so they'd be much better soon. My friend really likes MACs over PCs and he's got 5 computers at home, one of which is a Powerbook. He brings it everywhere. He says that he likes it for it's usefulness I'm not very technologically adherent so I'd take his word for it.

totoro123 · Conscript Joined: Jan 22, 2006 Posts: 111

best in class when it comes to graphics
but they can lag a little Sad

lastxchink · Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 9:30 pm Post subject:

they suck

i liek to right click

totoro123 · Conscript Joined: Jan 22, 2006 Posts: 111

macs kik ass for games and grafics but otherwise id go with a pc

Splinter · Heimin (Commoner) Joined: Nov 04, 2005 Posts: 60

Why do people hate macs in the first place? i never had one so i never really got why so many people bash macs.

spankit · A-Source Staff Joined: Jan 29, 2006 Posts: 4562

my school has those computers.
maybe im so use to window's but the
layout/format seems a bit weird for me.
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Loveless · Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 3:01 am Post subject:

I think this notagumshoe guy is one of those Apple promoters that come to forums to secretly establish how great a **** product is through forum means. These things do happen and people do get paid like this.

However my point being that, since Apple has no games I know of that is a deciding factor in my opinion. Your point to dismiss mine has missed its mark by saying that there isn't many games for the Apple. Therefore... Apple is not a gaming platform and more of an artistic platform that is rarely used. Promoting Apple pretty funny when its simply a product that most people will not want for their current needs.

Jsy3k · Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 3:40 am Post subject:

Aaah, looks like this discussion is getting much more interesting than before =P

Well, I have used a Mac before and personally, I loved the system. I have been planning on buying a Powerbook for sometimes, but in the end, I abstained from it since I am quite unfamiliar with OS X.

I personally used it very rarely on certain occasion, but explored enough of Macs and here is my opinion: Mac OS is incredibly cool-looking and its sleek design of GUIs and a whole lot of things can be done in it. Speed of processing of graphics and also application is completely different than the round-robin that are used in XP. I have tried running > 5 Photoshops in Mac and I have no problem with it, so far. It is a nice OS, personally in my opinion.

But unfortunately, I have lots of problems with it. Since Mac OS does not support games and some other applications that I need to run on Mac, it has become a major setback. Another thing is that it is a pain to fix, for me, at least since I am very unfamiliar with the OS. Even my friends with a Mac has problems fixing it even though he is very familiar with the OS. Maybe my dependencies on Windows is the main fault in that.

Yeah, it has a lot of advantages processing graphics and applications faster, but that can only happen on a high-end machines with high specifications.