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vankilsing
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 1:02 am    Post subject: Are goverment hired assassins bad? Post your opinion Reply with quote

Are goverment hired assassins bad? i think they are needed. post your opinion.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

depends what government and whose the kill.

if it was a government like the US that hired to kill a terrorist, then i wouldnt feel bad. but if it was a government of a terrorist nation or a dictator ruled government, then theyre bad. very.

hmmm....i guess that all assassins are bad, but who they kill determines how bad they are.
or something like that....Confused

i think that someone has been watching too many movies...
...and it wasnt me...
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is a bit controversial.. cause people have different views on assassins... though i personally think that all assassins are not good... its just the question on who is more understandable... to some the US hiring assassins is good and some it is bad... same goes with any country... killing someone is always bad regardless of the circumstances... but heck... i like being bad.. Razz
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont think they are assassins that are hired by the gov't...they are part of the gov't arnt they? Yeah, yeah......minister, senators, civil servants, spin doctors, assassins...its here in my politics book....

Well I think that all's fair in love and war....an assassin is as important (if not more) than a soldier.....its an ifficiant way to kill the important ppl in enemy's camp...........
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmm, assassins are generally viewed as bad, but they may be necessary to this world. Think, if the Czech people had managed to hire an assassin who successfully managed to kill hitler before he took all of Czechoslovakia(did I spell that right?), how different would this world be?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i personaly dont care as im not important enough to have some one hired to kill me.
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Think, if the Czech people had managed to hire an assassin who successfully managed to kill hitler before he took all of Czechoslovakia(did I spell that right?), how different would this world be?
there were plans to kill hitler though it was the british who would have done it not the czech's or so i think...i saw it on the history channel a few months or so.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pyrrhus wrote:
i personaly dont care as im not important enough to have some one hired to kill me.
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Think, if the Czech people had managed to hire an assassin who successfully managed to kill hitler before he took all of Czechoslovakia(did I spell that right?), how different would this world be?
there were plans to kill hitler though it was the british who would have done it not the czech's or so i think...i saw it on the history channel a few months or so.


hmm, well if the BRITISH had succeeded then, what would the world be like? how many of the Jewish, and "non-aryans" could've been saved from the Holocaust?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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hmm, well if the BRITISH had succeeded then, what would the world be like? how many of the Jewish, and "non-aryans" could've been saved from the Holocaust?
my guess would be A Lot but the thing is that they didnt and nothing can change that many people died in the war.
though we should not just be talking the "jewish" people and the "non-aryans" the death toll was not limited to them. in fact the soviet union had the worst of them all.

Country: Death Toll of WW2: Out of an total of abt. 50,000,000
Soviet Union 20,000,000 casualties civilian and military
China 3,000,000- 15,000,000. The latter number is more likely.
Germany 4,500,000 including 1,000,000 civilians.
Japan 2,000,000 casualties.
Bengal 1,500,000 died of war-related famine in 1943 in Bengal
Yugoslavia 1,300,000 including 1,000,000 civilians
Italy 500,000 casualties.
France 500,000 casualties half of them civilians.
Britain less than 500,000 but with 120,000 additional from the Empire.
United States less than 300,000 died; additional hundred thousands died in industry
Hungary, Poland, Rom 3-400,000 losses in each army of Hungary, Poland and Romania.
ast & CentralEurope 4,300,000 to 5,800,000 Jews died as well as a similar number of slaws.
that was a horific war and all we talk about are the jewish people when it infact goes much deeper and is by far wose than that...
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I know this might sound stupid, but the only way you'll think it's wrong if you're the one with a contract on you.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think it's a matter of morals and religion when it comes to killing for the government anymore. Like mentioned previously, killing goes on. Most the time, the reason the assassins for our government exists is to get rid of those who are hurting people, thus saving more lives. Would you kill your dog to save a hundred others? Anywho's, I wouldn't mind being a government assassin, lawl. Plus, these days we aren't just killing people. We want to squeeze them dry of information and then we want to have them suffer in jail for eternity. If you ask me, that should be questioned, not the swift killings of warlords.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

two words:
guided missiles
the american armory has stuff thet could probably get withing a few meters of the target
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would be nice to be a government assassin but that would be a hectic schedule.. i mean hiding all the time, practicing your kill method... but the money is good, however it is very hard for you to spend any of it if you are that good of an assassin then you are basically a prime target for others.. so the never ending game of hide and seek goes on until you die or you kill the rest of world that is after you... i think you know what will eventually happen.. so yeah.. assassins have it tough...
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Government sponsered assassination maybe fine if such actions can bring peace on the long run.

Unfortunately, that probably won't be the case, if the current Mideast peace process has taught us anything so far.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"American domestic law forbids any person employed by, or acting on behalf of, the American Government from engaging in, or conspiring to engage in, an act of assassination. The controlling legal norm, Executive Order 12333, was promulgated by President Jimmy Carter in December, 1981, partly in response to embarrassing revelations concerning assassination attempts and schemes committed by the American intelligence community against the leaders of various foreign nations in the 60’s and 70’s. The assassination, or attempted assassination, of a foreign leader also clearly constitutes a violation of customary and conventional international law. Furthermore, to the extent that a civilian person and a non-military structure are being targeted for military action in the course of a belligerency, a violation of the Geneva Convention (and the Protocols thereto) is also committed."

Now if it has happened? Who knows except those who commit the crime.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It depends on who is being killed. If they truly deserve it, and they seem to elude capture and trial, then I would consider it to be okay then. If its somebody who does not deserve it, then of course its not okay. The assassin him/herself is a harder call. Anyone who can take life so easily has to have something wrong..... I suppose if its their duty then alright, but if they start enjoying it and they stop questioning the governments motives, then yes he is a bad person.
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