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isnt sharingan the evolved form of byakugan?
i like sharingan the fact that it has no limits...you got the three dotted sharingan to mangekyou...and who knows...there could be another level to that.
Whereas the byakugan has just one level...and pretty much only affective in hand to hand combat.
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Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 11:26 pm Post subject:
Ruima wrote:
The winner would depend on the level of the two fighters. A low-mid level Byakugan would probably beat a low-mid level sharigan.
However, the Mangekyuu Sharigan would definitely beat the Byakugan and most other blood-limits due to the fact that it lets you react to taijutsu with the normal sharigan, perform possibly the highest-level genjutsu and perform highly advanced seals.
Also, the Byahugan users have a close-up fighting style, while Sharigan users can just look you in the eye and you mostly lose.
Lastly, is an idea that might work since you need to look into the eyes of the Mangekyuu Sharigan for the genjutsu to take effect and Byakugan lets you see all around and at a higher degree so you mostly can't avoid the Mangekyuu Sharigan. But, this is only a theory and may not work.
But the person has to see for the sharigan to be fully effective, therefore hypothetically someone blind like say Tosen from BLEACH (couldn't think of a better example) would not be directly affected, while the byakugan doesn't depend on external factors, plus in Naruto II Neji has extended the effective range from 5m to 80m thats a hell of an improvement
I'd have to go with sharingan, it has so many more uses after improved sight. Like how Itachi can use genjutsu through hit eye, and how Kakashi can make a little black hole with it. I'd say the only dissadvantage between Sharingan and Byakugan would be that Sharingan uses up more chakra.
Wow, i can't believe that this discussion still going on. Anyways theone06 could you tell me from what anime is the gif animated avatar of your signature? It looks interesting, i may want to watch it.
because they have that jutsu, the gentle palm (?) where they hit X point and teh chakra flow is neutrilized... so if a sharingan user gets hit with this then tehy wont be able to use the sharingan... right?... RIGHT!?
I would say byakugan all the way. There are some factors.
1.You can just close your eyes against sharingan for no hypnotism.
2. While you are closing your eyes, you can see through your eyelids, so you can still act and react.
3. For the Sasuke vs Neji fight, it's not who has better eyes, look at their skillz and how they were trained and their potential. Sasuke obviously excelled at everything while neji was average. Sasuke has a better base than neji. If you had 2 skilled users, like Itachi and some skillz byakugan.. cant name any. I would say byakugan would have to win.
4. I thought byakugan could sense chakra points, even without looking. Therefore it could tell where mangekyuu sharingan would be trying to use a special skill as it abilities are active while charkra sensing with byakugan is passive.
5. If a sharingan user was going to use any special attack, a byakugan user would have a defense with it's 359 degree vision.
6. If fighting in a condition, like blindness or dark, I would say byakugan is more affective.
Lots more but im sleepy... yawn.
Byakugan all the way!
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Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 12:54 am Post subject:
infernos1232 wrote:
I would say byakugan all the way. There are some factors.
1.You can just close your eyes against sharingan for no hypnotism.
2. While you are closing your eyes, you can see through your eyelids, so you can still act and react.
3. For the Sasuke vs Neji fight, it's not who has better eyes, look at their skillz and how they were trained and their potential. Sasuke obviously excelled at everything while neji was average. Sasuke has a better base than neji. If you had 2 skilled users, like Itachi and some skillz byakugan.. cant name any. I would say byakugan would have to win.
4. I thought byakugan could sense chakra points, even without looking. Therefore it could tell where mangekyuu sharingan would be trying to use a special skill as it abilities are active while charkra sensing with byakugan is passive.
5. If a sharingan user was going to use any special attack, a byakugan user would have a defense with it's 359 degree vision.
6. If fighting in a condition, like blindness or dark, I would say byakugan is more affective.
Lots more but im sleepy... yawn.
Byakugan all the way!
You made some good points however, Neji is by no means average. Both he and Sasuke were the top of their classes only he was a year ahead of Sasuke. If any thing Neji would be the better Neji based of abilities alone
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Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 6:01 pm Post subject:
theone06 wrote:
infernos1232 wrote:
I would say byakugan all the way. There are some factors.
1.You can just close your eyes against sharingan for no hypnotism.
2. While you are closing your eyes, you can see through your eyelids, so you can still act and react.
3. For the Sasuke vs Neji fight, it's not who has better eyes, look at their skillz and how they were trained and their potential. Sasuke obviously excelled at everything while neji was average. Sasuke has a better base than neji. If you had 2 skilled users, like Itachi and some skillz byakugan.. cant name any. I would say byakugan would have to win.
4. I thought byakugan could sense chakra points, even without looking. Therefore it could tell where mangekyuu sharingan would be trying to use a special skill as it abilities are active while charkra sensing with byakugan is passive.
5. If a sharingan user was going to use any special attack, a byakugan user would have a defense with it's 359 degree vision.
6. If fighting in a condition, like blindness or dark, I would say byakugan is more affective.
Lots more but im sleepy... yawn.
Byakugan all the way!
You made some good points however, Neji is by no means average. Both he and Sasuke were the top of their classes only he was a year ahead of Sasuke. If any thing Neji would be the better Neji based of abilities alone
this is why i hate finding topic so late...everything i whould use in a argument is allready taken, anyway
i voted for Byakugan beacuse i feel that defence is more importance than offence. say an sharingan user excells in offencive attacks, and a byakugan user excells in defencive, now i'd rather conserve my charka defending fomr each attack with little to no effort. rather than expendign it all trying to break through a iron ball defence. that way it whould just be a battle of who was smarter. the one that expended all his energy attack or the one that barely used any to defend himself from all said attacks. _________________ Who said the dead wouldnt rise again?!?
Byakugan. Easily. as said before, he could close his eyes and fight, to counter the mangekyou. And then its all skill. All Byakugan has to do is close the chakra points, and he cant even use sharingan anymore! true, Neji would have a hard time even hitting sasuke, with his speed, plus the chidori. But his speed cant be used as often as Lee can use it, and Nejis spin move might be able to counter the chidori......or explode, like in the naruto fight in the 3rd chunin exam. _________________ What if, the only reason we die, is because we accept death as an inevitability?
im just a newbie!!! hi!!! anyways about the topic:
when comparing both byakugan ang sharingan there are a few things to be considered
>strength of user
>experience
>mastery
(lets use Neji and Sasuke for examples)
{both ninja strengths are when they are in chunnin exam(the stadium where naruto beat neji)}
lets say that both sasuke and neji are both at the same level
you have to consider that neji is a defensive(more appropriately a counter user) ninja, while sasuke is a offensive(gradual expansion of strength) ninja.
at this point neji is at the most advantage here. all because of his kaiten(all out defensive technique) with these technique sasuke is already at big disadvantage. chakra wise byakugan is more convenient so when sasuke is out of chakra using sharingan(mostly techniques). sasuke loses(even with chidori) even if he uses chidori neji still has the advantage since it's clear that kaiten uses less chakra than chidori and it can be used as many times as neji wants, and chidori is only available with 2 uses only. and not to mention neji's rokujou yonshou. wherein he closes all of enemies chance to create chakra.
but......
(when the situation is both mastery of their bloodline is at max and both ninja's strength is also in the same level)
simply put sasuke just looks at neji, uses amaterasu(space and time technique{i think that's what's it called}) at him and its done. neji will be floating in some forsaken land. also even if sasuke doesn't use amaterasu he still is at advantage because of sharingan is at max potential(giving sasuke ultimate reaction time and speed). put it this way before neji even had the time to put out his kaiten his already hit by sasuke. not to mention sasuke's wide variety of chidori on his sleeves.
to put it shortly in the beginning byakugan has the advantage but in the long run sharingan wins.
guys this is what I think. i am not 100% sure this is right since i'm not the author of naruto. just suggesting what i think
hehehe. lol.
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