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Joined: Nov 16, 2006 Posts: 88 Location: Earth... I think
Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 2:20 am Post subject:
The Wii has a more interesting idea for a controller, but PS3 has better graphics. The Wii is also a lot cheaper. PS3 has Final Fantasy. It's a tough decision between the 2.
It's pretty hard to tell whether if the both system launch was a blockbuster mainly because both were way too short in supply compared to the demand. New wave of supplies will be hit by Friday I heard. Though, it will not be enough to satisfy costumers and will going to have to wait for another week and more likely the week after that. Not to mention that this Friday is Black Friday where in the U.S. people will camp outside the store from about 3-4am, some earlier, just to be able get the limited supply of item(s) that's going to be on sale.
And yes, there are reviews that are already available out there.
OH OK, I see... so they have lack of supplies right now. THANKS! So which means the 360 was still a seller even the PS3 and the Wii have been released, atleast after the gamers wait for another year atleast... _________________ [IMG:385:191:219449d33d]http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r183/yushire/SLAMDUNK.jpg[/img:219449d33d]
In Japan, November 6, the estimated numbers of units sold:
DS Lite: 148,147
PS3: 81,639
PSP: 19,123
PS2: 16,157
Xbox360: 3,864
GBA SP: 3,864 units
GB Micro: 1,213 units
GameCube: 496 units
DS: 279 units
GBA: 19 units
Xbox: 3
Wii: not out until December 2 for Japan
In U.S., I've no idea what the numbers are but the news are everywhere from papers, T.V., and people talking about people fighting over for the two recently launched consoles. Can't really say Xbox360 is a seller, though Gears of War sold 1 million copies and the rate of Xbox Live Gold subscription rose about 50% after the game's release.
err... why we are focusing on Japan when these matters are concerned, there are many other countries in the world anyway... I've seen it in all gaming sites already. OK, japanese dont like M$'s consoles. THATS IT, so Japan doesnt counts... _________________ [IMG:385:191:219449d33d]http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r183/yushire/SLAMDUNK.jpg[/img:219449d33d]
I'm not focusing on Japan but rather mentioning it along as the current condition for the Xbox360. Even though there are many countries out there, first, you gotta think about the history of the video game consoles and where most of the successful developers are. Second, if you want to make it big with the rest of the countries, you're gonna want those successful developers to make games for you. If you can't deliver that, then you will always be in last place. This is why Microsoft is trying so hard in Japan and that's why I'm including Japan.
Is console gaming so as arcades actually came from the U.S. and not from Japan? For me, Japan is too overrated to me. If they'll make a real sales count, I think they should do it in worldwide scale and not in one country alone... _________________ [IMG:385:191:219449d33d]http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r183/yushire/SLAMDUNK.jpg[/img:219449d33d]
I'd sure like to give you the numbers from worldwide count, but Japan is the only one that I could find. If I see one, I'll give em to you. It probably won't matter anymore when that time comes, though, as things may have changed.
And I also wasn't talking about the origination console gaming or arcades. History, the past... who, what, where, why, and how such things happened. Where's Magnavox, Atari, Fairchild, or 3DO now? Who decides on making the consoles and the designs of it? What elements do people want to buy? How did video game consoles do in certain places? Why, on earth, is it so big in Japan compared to other places?? If you didn't know or haven't even thought about those questions before, then I wouldn't be surprised why Japan is overrated to you. There's so many other questions regarding the history of console gaming and I hope you'd understand why Japan counts.
Dont know, but... Its because the console company are little greedy in the early 80's and Nintendo was in the right moment at the right time thats why they succeed. I mean, its the 8-bit era the NES and the Atari 2600 and yet why the 2600 was overpowered by the NES, even though Atari can top that...
Anyway, everyone knows here about the video game crash of 1983 and why did it happened. For one thing, there's no innovations and creativity in that time anymore. The same game was in 2600 is the same in the 70's. If Atari could innovate and be more creative, they should still be in the top of the console wars until now...
So you see, its just in the timing, simply because it made from Japan doesnt mean that there's special about them... _________________ [IMG:385:191:219449d33d]http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r183/yushire/SLAMDUNK.jpg[/img:219449d33d]
lol, EXACTLY. Atari could have been more innovative and creative. Why didn't they? They have the time, tools, money, and the people.
Japan, a country that's known for getting the latest tech, has a company called Nintendo who developed a cartridge that has much more bigger space and their Famicom system that can handle graphics way better. The storage helped them to put more stuff in and make the game longer, not just some Pac-man or Space Invaders. They were more like Mario, Metroid, Castlevania, or heck Duck Hunt. Why exactly didn't America think of making such thing?
Timing is part of it. Standard of living in Japan was really low back then and U.S. was pretty up top. But as time progressed, Japan somehow ended up at top while U.S. is somewhere lower. Higher standard of living means that people have more money. And more money means, they get better shelter, transportation, health, and education. All of these are important to take account of.
Such things along with the culture help shape Japan to a certain society, which as a whole plays a big part. People of Japan tends to be more imaginative. I mean, c'mon, this is how we got DDR freaks, Initial D. drifters, Mario family, and Final Fantasy series fanatics! Have you ever noticed how most of the characters in the video games look very much closely to anime characters? Well, it'd be hard to tell in the Famicom days but this is how it have evolved towards to this day. An average American adult would think animes are just cartoons while the average Japanese adults watch em, with or without their kids. Most would even read mangas. It's this fantasy world that they want to get into that the other countries doesn't have such things built in to their society. I would be surprised if you could name me a cartoon that would compete well with an anime series.
If we take Japan out, why does Microsoft still haven't sold so much consoles? Why do people wait for the PS3 or the Wii? It's the games, right? They could have done well alone, yet they still buy "exclusivities" from game makers from this one single country... If Japan doesn't matter, why is Microsoft trying so hard in Japan to sell their units? Why aren't they focusing on their own country? How about Europe? Africa? Australia? Malaysia, Indonesia, or the PC games lover Korea?
Dunno where you live but Happy Thanksgiving anyways lol.
Joined: Jul 04, 2005 Posts: 80 Location: Land of the Trolls.
Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 6:27 pm Post subject:
thugangel wrote:
But as time progressed, Japan somehow ended up at top while U.S. is somewhere lower.
Despite hundreds of homeless people living in shanty towns inside the subway, the over inflated prices for low quality items, the fierce competion between students that leads many to suicide and withdrawl from society? LOL.
thugangel wrote:
I would be surprised if you could name me a cartoon that would compete well with an anime series.
The Simpsons, 384 episodes since 1989 and still running.
But as time progressed, Japan somehow ended up at top while U.S. is somewhere lower.
Despite hundreds of homeless people living in shanty towns inside the subway, the over inflated prices for low quality items, the fierce competion between students that leads many to suicide and withdrawl from society? LOL.
I said the standard of living is higher, not in perfection. Huge difference there. Yes, prices are inflated on anything, not just on low quality items. They adjust to this inflation by having higher wages and such. And are you saying the more lax U.S. is better while many of its population are unemployed, taking drugs, and high percentage of divorces are better?
Ferretmage wrote:
thugangel wrote:
I would be surprised if you could name me a cartoon that would compete well with an anime series.
The Simpsons, 384 episodes since 1989 and still running.
And which anime serie(s) are you comparing it to? In what aspect is the Simpsons better than this certain anime? How are you comparing them, anyway? Just by mere number of episodes?
Joined: Jul 04, 2005 Posts: 80 Location: Land of the Trolls.
Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 9:16 pm Post subject:
thugangel wrote:
I said the standard of living is higher, not in perfection. Huge difference there. Yes, prices are inflated on anything, not just on low quality items. They adjust to this inflation by having higher wages and such. And are you saying the more lax U.S. is better while many of its population are unemployed, taking drugs, and high percentage of divorces are better?
Lax U.S.? Please elaborate. Second based on population wise the U.S. is higher up because while we have more people living in the "bad" standard of living we have more people in the "good" standard of living than Japan.
Oh, and a divorce wouldn't be really count towards the standard of living because that's a personal problem people have. Not something that society as a whole has.
Also, information on Japan's "higher" standard of living would be appreciated.
thugangel wrote:
And which anime serie(s) are you comparing it to? In what aspect is the Simpsons better than this certain anime? How are you comparing them, anyway? Just by mere number of episodes?
All of them. You didn't specify on what terms the show are competing so therefore I simply had to resort to popularity terms. Please be specific in further post.
Simpsons-Running time 17 years, 384 episodes.
One Piece- Running time 7 years, 286 episodes.
Naruto- Running time 4 years, 213 episodes.
Now based on these number of some of most popular anime today compared to the Simpson who would you say is more popular?
If we take Japan out, why does Microsoft still haven't sold so much consoles? Why do people wait for the PS3 or the Wii? It's the games, right? They could have done well alone, yet they still buy "exclusivities" from game makers from this one single country... If Japan doesn't matter, why is Microsoft trying so hard in Japan to sell their units? Why aren't they focusing on their own country? How about Europe? Africa? Australia? Malaysia, Indonesia, or the PC games lover Korea?
They do actually. They try hard in Japan because it's a big market, the 3rd bigest market in the world, but Microsoft has succeded in passing Nintendo worlwide on the console market.
Microsoft commitment to North America is pretty obvious and their efforts in Europe are quite respectable. Big games have world wide launch, and they did make a world wide launch... Which Sony failed to do. That's quite a feat is you ask me.
Now about Japan. Of course they want to appeal to the market. It's the 3rd largest in the world and has high profile developpers. They have some pretty nice game coming from and for japan in the near future. But I can bet you one thing. If Microsoft has 1 million consoles in Japan and 49 millions in the world... Every Japanese corporation would think twice before ignoring such a big player.
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