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[Rhysticgon]

you cant say that the 360 hasnt performed as well as a next gen console could have mainly because there are few games that could utilize it really well, in fact right now I would say only dead or alive and maybe project gotham utilize it well, and thats not really well, not to mention one is a fighting game while the other is a car racing game. The car racing game can use motion blurs to mask over, and the fighting game can utlize it well graphically, but its still a fighting game so gameplay is limited (in my eyes anyway) when a proper fps comes out (gears of war hopefully) and a proper rpg comes out (99 nights MAYBE? most likely enchanted arms will be definitely if it comes to US) and you play it and it doesnt live to par then you can say that. But thats just my bi***ing. But in all truth, there havent been many games out yet utilizing the 360 as a next gen console, but it will start to now, especially when the ps3 is launched as well.

[4thNoun]

Wii. It's all about the Wii. I havent been this excited about a console since I heard about the Dreamcast.

Im still waiting to see whats going to happen when the PS3 finally launches. I think it will do better than the 360 did at its launch.

The 360 is the third choice this year around for me. There were no impressive games from the start, and right now there still really arent any, at least not for me. If you're not a FPS fan like me, then the 360 is almost useless. The dual systems and the lack of true backwards compatibility are the key factors keeping my interest very low in a 360.
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[KamiNoSeigi]

[jzmagic]

my eyes are set on ps3, the revolution looks interesting with the controller but i imagine it will get old fast (much like the nintendo ds). so far, the only reason to get ps3 for me is because of the FF series

[thugangel]

When you guys are talking about the resemblance between the Wii and the Dreamcast, you guys must be referring to the Wiimote. Though, that might be the only thing that may seem to be ahead of its time. Unlike Dreamcast where it tried to be ahead with the graphics, online community, sensitive pressure controller buttons, interactive memory cards, same arcade processor, replaceable modems, and some other advanced extra peripherals, Wii is just an improved Gamecube. A faster CPU, GPU, and more memory with an additional funky controller, Nintendo doesn't even consider Wii to be a next-generation console.

The only difference in the resemblance of the technology between Wii and Dreamcast is that there is backward compatibility. Not all games are required to use the Wiimote. Depending on the games, your Gamecube controller can be optional. Dreamcast weren't able to play SEGA Saturn games.

[KamiNoSeigi]

But is this backwards compatibility really going to save the console? I mean you stated that this wasn't considered a next-gen so I'm thinking that the Wii might be crushed by the competition. There are plenty of mod chips out there that although bootlegged games, which in turn allow for backwards compatibility. I know that it sounds bad to play old games in such a manner, but you cannot deny that this is a popular thing to do (modding systems).

The controller as stated earlier is the thing that I think is going to either win fans or break them. It's going to make fans love it or hate it. I mean I remember hating the eyetoy for the PS2 and I wasn't too big a fan of the onimusha 3 sword system. The gameplay that the Wii is bringing is more interactive with the game itself and that's something to look foward to, but to what extent?

And btw, I'm glad to see you posting ThugAngel, I always look foward to your thoughtful posts.
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[thugangel]

Wii has a lot of chance and backwards compatibility is one of them. Nintendo knows that it has no chance against the other two competitors, but they're confident with the first or two years after its launch for this reason:

-super cheap compared to Xbox360 and PS3. After the price announcement for PS3, Microsoft stated that they won't be cutting the price for Xbox360. That ccould change anytime, though. But Wii will most likely be around 200 USD.

-cheap technology. They don't need the extra cores that cost them money and the GPU isn't so expensive either.

-easement of game developments. Without so much complexity compared to dealing with multiple cores, games will be cheap and way faster to develop for Wii. The development kit was also based on Gamecube's kit so there isn't much learning curve to spend.

-increase number in game library. Since it'll be cheaper and easier to develop games for Wii, this console may get the same amount of library it did for PSX and PS2. I believe Square Enix gave two exclusive games to Wii. There may be more to come from also different companies. EA also announced that they will support Wii. I don't think they have a reason to price their new releases at around $60 either.

-backward compatibility with Gamecube games. Not a lot of people are bootlegging Gamecube and most likely will be the same for Wii. Will be a matter of time.

-the graphics would be at least on par or little less with Xbox360 and PS3 for the first year.

-launch date. It's still a mystery but most likely it'll be launched pre-Thanksgiving. People go to shopping craze around this time.

Not to mention about the roms they'll be offering but not really a huge factor. However, the optimistic examples that I listed were just for short term. Once Microsoft and Sony started slashing prices, and when people are getting tired of looking at its graphpics, then that will be the end of the Wii. I understand your doubtness since it'll be hard to deliver on some genres like good quality fighting games. Wii isn't meant to last long (under my impression). But there's a chance that it might, like it did with GameBoy.

And thanx for the compliment KamiNoSeigi. And my comment may be off from the subject of your reply, but it seems to fit somehow >.>; Sorry about that ^_^;

[KamiNoSeigi]

Then will this potentially spell the end of Nintendo as being a home entertainment system provider?

If it is as you say, and if the Wii is just going to be a short term system, then I think we'll be seeing a lot of Nintendo in the hand held market. Face it, no matter how pretty the PSP looks, it fails to deliver the quality games that Nintedo is dishing out. Do you think that this will spell a new hand held? Further more will this potentially be the downfall of Sony's PSP?
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[thugangel]

Well, that was Nintendo's main goal when they released DS; to be the number one hand-held video game holder. Along with that goal, their budget have put them in risk for sticking with Wii. Though, this risk may help them in the long run because depending on the success of Wii, they have an option to start late in the next-gen console to actually compete with Xbox360 and PS3. I don't know the intended life span for DS/DS lite, but it looks like it's going to be as long as Wii's. Nintendo has plans on using DS's wireless connectivity and make Wii games that'll use the touch screen and microphone. They also have plans downloading contents from Wii and edit with the DS. lol, maybe DS will last longer than Wii. Time will tell xD.

I heard plenty about unsatisfacitons with the PSP and I've recently read a news that EA is pushing Sony to drop PSP price to $149 by the end of this year. This may help the PSP, but I'm not sure about the the profits since PSP is way much more expensive to manufacture. Nintendo has no plans for cutting their DS/DS lite prices for they are still trying to catch up with the demands.

Not to forget that Microsoft is also trying to get in the handheld industry, but it may or may not do good in the battle. No matter what, it seems that DS/DS lite will hold the number one title.

update from Nintendo: "We will offer online-enabled games that the consumers will not have to pay a subscription fee for. They'll be able to enjoy that right out of the box. The Wii console is going to be Wi-Fi enabled, so essentially, you'll be able to plug it in and go. It won't have hidden fees or costs." Note that they didn't say "all of the games." Some third-parties could charge for subscription for MMOG, but this is better than no free online game at all. Now there's a resemblance with Dreamcast xD.

[asuka21]

Although I have the graphics for XBOX360 for PS3, I must admit Wii games and functions makes me kinda curious. Plus its so much cheaper than the other systems, wouldn't hurt to give it a try.

[DarkAlliance]

In the graphic department somy has definetly surpassed itself with the PS3. However I will have to say I am most looking foward to the Wii(Nintendo). he motion sensors on the controler sound great. I'll be able to actually fight someone istead of pressing a couple od buttons. The fact that you will be able to download previous intendo work, allowing one to play old nintendo games just adds to the fun.

[Jamal]

Xbox 360

[Raiden]

yeah...If I would be given a choice to be Given (which will not HAPPEN) 2 next gen console systems, I would choose PS3 and Wii.

Why? because Nintendo and SONY are far way better than XB360. the games man, THE GAMES. And they're both Japanese...expect the best from them.

sadly...I have to wait for a year I guess before I get myself a PS3...since there is no MGS4 yet.
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