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Ashdate
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

manxx wrote:
yes i were like ainme to be in school like u can be a real najar like naruto u have many kind of power i like that to be in school


This is completely the greatest reply ever.

One thing on the 'anime in school' thing: I think a lot of people are simply looking at anime and thinking 'that'd be awesome to watch in school' without actually considering if there is any benefit to watching it.

I mean, it's great to get something you like into something you hate, but anime that has no teaching value is worthless.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ashdate wrote:
manxx wrote:
yes i were like ainme to be in school like u can be a real najar like naruto u have many kind of power i like that to be in school


This is completely the greatest reply ever.

One thing on the 'anime in school' thing: I think a lot of people are simply looking at anime and thinking 'that'd be awesome to watch in school' without actually considering if there is any benefit to watching it.

I mean, it's great to get something you like into something you hate, but anime that has no teaching value is worthless.

- Eddie


I agree as most animes are purely fantasies of the human mind and i doubt it imparts any value or knowledge to us other than bringing us ssatisfaction.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think they will allow anime in school. Personally, i don't like watching my anime in school because firstly i feel a bit uncomfortable when people see me watching anime, secondly i can't concentrate in studying especially i'm in year 12 now.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would be nice, but they'll never allow it.
Would be fun though, watching a show like Zipang in history class, IGPX in PE and Yakitate Japan!! in home room(or whatever the hell that's called in English). Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol actually u guys, anime offers just wat any other movie offers w/in a class. teachers still have u analyze and comment on the plot, climax, etc... just like how there is in ANY movie or series, anime offers the same types of themes and plot summary.

some teachers actually let u watch kewl series because they know it's more entertaining but also involves the same curriculum of lit. elements. take for instance my 10th grade eng. teacher, he let us watch star wars~!

and just to let u know...if u take certain film classes in college, supposedly they let u watch anime in class~!
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mmm but japanese culture classes ??

and they could teach about anime, manga and other japanese things
hahaha what beautiful dream xD
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Benjas wrote:
mmm but japanese culture classes ??

and they could teach about anime, manga and other japanese things
hahaha what beautiful dream xD


Of course ! Every japanese can perform jutsu, extract chakra or pilot a mobile suit !! Razz
How I like japanese culture ! (gonna search for my passport Very Happy)
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kaykay wrote:
lol actually u guys, anime offers just wat any other movie offers w/in a class. teachers still have u analyze and comment on the plot, climax, etc... just like how there is in ANY movie or series, anime offers the same types of themes and plot summary.


Not quite. Anime is based on a completely different culture then ours, to explain some anime require you first to explain the culture behind it, and that is what is known as a 'waste of time' when you're talking an English or Social Studies class.

Also keep in mind that we're talking movies here, and anime simply cannot compare to the depth and history that film has.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some animes should be shown depending on the class. Although there really isnt all that much to do about them. Ive sen pirited away in schools but thats casue its one of those amss produced, everyones seen it type of animes
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

heard from some people in high school who have jap class that they do screen some anime there.

depends on the teachers though...
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ash> personally i don't think if it matters if it is from a diff. culture, and some of the time we translate stories from other cultures and make it our own. plus in classes such as diff. lang. courses or sociology we study other cultures. in my opinion, whether u watch anime or any other type of movie, it still contains most of the same elements and themes. i mean come on take spirited away....a lit. teacher would probably say, "it's a film where the character is in search for his identity " ( haku searches for his identity).....and there's usually good vs. evil and action vs. ination w/in films or stories.

i mean basically u can take almost anything and give it some form of stretched meaning...i mean look @ poetry...we give it or identify all this hidden symbolism.....anime is no diff. when analyzing it. Ex: in spirited away, Haku represented innocence (hello he's white just like a dove)....and he had to battle the inner demons w/in in order to be good....blah blah blah
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to agree with kaykay that anime can be analyzed in school just like they currently make students do with movies and books. This is something that is usually done in an English course and really, most of the time when you write an essay in English there is no way you can really get it wrong. When somebody watches a movie or read a book they all have different opinions on the message that is being sent. Even if they argree on the message, they could disagree on the symbols and actions that took place to show the message. The main thing is if you see a certain message being sent, you just need to be able to prove that it was there by using examples.

I mean...in my grade 12 English course, I had to write an essay comparing The Lion King to the play Hamlet. Now, just what could these two stories have in common? When you look at the two stories, they actually do have a surprising amount in common. Both Simba and Hamlet lost their fathers. Their fathers returned to them in some sort of spiritual form. Both felt the need to avenge their father's death. Timon and Pumba to Simba could be seen to be playing a similar role as Horatio did to Hamlet..etc

I mean...heck...in my university there is a Philosophy course where all you do is watch various movies and write an essay based on the movie. I doubt that they show anime but if they did it wouldn't be impossible for the students to write up a report for that anime as well.

So yea...having anime in class could provide the benefits of improving your ability to analyze things and it could also help with your writing skills as well if a report had to written on it. But the chances of it ever actually happening...most likely zero...
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ash> personally i don't think if it matters if it is from a diff. culture, and some of the time we translate stories from other cultures and make it our own. plus in classes such as diff. lang. courses or sociology we study other cultures. in my opinion, whether u watch anime or any other type of movie, it still contains most of the same elements and themes. i mean come on take spirited away....a lit. teacher would probably say, "it's a film where the character is in search for his identity " ( haku searches for his identity).....and there's usually good vs. evil and action vs. ination w/in films or stories.


The difference between studying a Japanese play and a German play is that North American Culture is a conglomarte of European and African cultures. We don't need an explanation of many different cultures in the world because ours are based off hundreds of years of mixing the very ones we normally study.

This mixing didn't often include asian cultures; Yes, immigrants from all over Asia are coming in huge numbers, but just because there are more Chinese restaurants here before then there were 50 years ago doesn't mean they've been 'assimilated' into our culture. In fact, most immigrants today segregate themselves from the traditional culture (i.e. Chinatowns).

It may not seem important, but even little things like calling people by their last name confuses the heck out of most people. Roger Ebert did an entire interview with Bai Ling and still wasn't really sure which was the first name, and which was the last name after someone e-mailed him telling him he'd got it wrong.

Each time something seemingly trival like this comes up, sometimes you'll have to explain it. Why did that person sneeze for no reason? Why is that person gawking over that average looking apartment? For the love of God, why did that man just get a nosebleed? You distract from the whole by being forced to focus on the details.

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i mean basically u can take almost anything and give it some form of stretched meaning...i mean look @ poetry...we give it or identify all this hidden symbolism.....anime is no diff. when analyzing it. Ex: in spirited away, Haku represented innocence (hello he's white just like a dove)....and he had to battle the inner demons w/in in order to be good....blah blah blah


First of all, you're in trouble if you're stretching your meaning. You run the risk of overanalyzing something, or even analyzing it incorrectly. Applying meaning to something that has no meaning is a common pitfall. It's also a LOT harder to apply meaning to a culture like Japan's. They've got a huge history of legends and superstituions that the average person living in North America doesn't know about; If we don't have the cultural knowledge to identify these ideas when they pop up, we could end up applying the wrong meaning.

Really, the biggest thing is that it's hard to justify analyzing anime even ASIDE from the cultural barrier (and language barrier to a certain extent) when there's a wealth of existing film in North America that presents the ideas you'd hope to explore in a film a lot better. Even Japanese film would do a better job in most cases then it's animation.

It's not that you couldn't watch anime if it came down to it, but rather, why would you?

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol to tell u the truth i think ur over analyzing the topic.

when u study poetry in literature, it doesn't matter if u stretch certain meanings somewhat. every lil aspect can be interpreted diff. but usually there's some common ground. for example i'll take the play Hamlet. there is a big dispute whether Hamlet even loved ophelia. many say his revenge for his father led ultimately to ophelia's insanity and death. but other's say he did love her cuz he was distraught after hearing what had happened to her. however y didn't he feel sad for her when he killed her father?...see it's just a matter of interpretation....there's not really a wrong way to analyze these things(unless ur just seriously going offtopic)....it's all opinion. i mean anime still has paradoxes, imagery, symbolism, irony, etc.... just like any other piece of literary merit or film work.

Mehanai just went into a perfect example of this (lion king and hamlet relation). seriously ppl do this kinda sh**...they just take anything and analyze it....in some poetry classes u have to find y the poet picked EACH word and explain how and y he used that word.......i mean it gets pretty ridiculous when they have to analyze the word "the".....so analyzing anime isn't really difficult or farfetched in my opinion...it's the same w/ any other movie or piece of film, art, or work of literature. so i don't feel as if i need to prove my point any longer~!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

there wont be anime in schools cuz the language is inapropriate.
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