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jonoh83
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| i think it would be stupid to give a non-japanese kid a japanese name. its not even their own culture. i think its better for kids to have names from their own culture and ethnic group because it would be a reminder of their identity but hey watever floats ur boat to make u happy. |
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silverkitsune
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| Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 9:30 am Post subject: |
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| pnayako wrote: |
| Well, my cousin's wife just gave birth. None of them have any Japanese origins as I can think of, since my cousin is 100% Chinese, and his wife is 50% Welsch and 50% Chinese. None of them watch anime, or read manga, not even listen to Japanese music and so on. One wierd thing, they gave their daughter's name Mika Kaoru. (her full name is Mika Kaoru Tyner Lau] And yes, eeveryone were shocked when my niece is 3/4 chinese and 1/4 welsch and have a japanese name... |
See guys? that's the kind of thing I was talking about. People will just think it's weird for non-japanese person living in other country to have Japanese name for no reason.
It's not a good idea. Just name your kid with her life in your mind. Think about what she would have to go through in life if she had a Japanese name for no reason when she didn't have a drop of Japanese blood in her.
Everytime in new class in school, teacher would call her name for the first time and ask her "oh you have japanese name? are your parents japanese decent?" and how would she answer?
Just think on that...
Then decide.
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Bowser
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| Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 10:51 am Post subject: |
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| pnayako wrote: |
| Well, my cousin's wife just gave birth. None of them have any Japanese origins as I can think of, since my cousin is 100% Chinese, and his wife is 50% Welsch and 50% Chinese. None of them watch anime, or read manga, not even listen to Japanese music and so on. One wierd thing, they gave their daughter's name Mika Kaoru. (her full name is Mika Kaoru Tyner Lau] And yes, eeveryone were shocked when my niece is 3/4 chinese and 1/4 welsch and have a japanese name... |
See...yeah, it is weired.....but on the other hand....at least the child is of Oriental decent.....it fits in at least a bit....
Like it wouldnt be so weired for a french person to have a german name...(as long as it fits).......but yeah, like I said.....if you'r culture dosnt fit it....then forget about it....you'l only imbarasse you'r self and children.... |
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pnayako
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I guess I have a succesor. People call me part Japanese since my friends always always always call me Kaoru. But I got a call from my friend and he asked me if my niece is 1/2 Japanese. ARE YOU KIDDING ME?! And people say we have the same blue grey eyes...
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silverkitsune
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| Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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| pnayako wrote: |
| I guess I have a succesor. People call me part Japanese since my friends always always always call me Kaoru. But I got a call from my friend and he asked me if my niece is 1/2 Japanese. ARE YOU KIDDING ME?! And people say we have the same blue grey eyes... |
I'm not too sure, but in order for Japanese decent child to have blue eyes or blonde hair, he/she would have to be at least 3rd generation caucasian/Japanese. Meaning max of 1/4 Japanese blood; which seems to get ignored in lot of anime characters. Whenever you have "half Japanese" characters, they always have blonde hair... You'd only get brunette even if the japanese parent married a blonde caucasian parent.
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Bowser
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| silverkitsune wrote: |
I'm not too sure, but in order for Japanese decent child to have blue eyes or blonde hair, he/she would have to be at least 3rd generation caucasian/Japanese. Meaning max of 1/4 Japanese blood; which seems to get ignored in lot of anime characters. Whenever you have "half Japanese" characters, they always have blonde hair... You'd only get brunette even if the japanese parent married a blonde caucasian parent. |
Well...thats not nessisarily true......firstly gene shuffling is completly random.....secondly....some genes are stronger than others...
Example......lets say.....
b=blond
B=Brunette
So B is the dominant gene....so if its paired up like this:
BB= Brunette child
Bb= Brunette child
bB= Brunette childe
bb= Blond child
So there is still a chance to get blond hair.....its just very very rare...thats all.....same goes for blue eyes...or any genes for that matter...
P.S: If I made a mistake, someone tell me, coz this is what I learnt in Biology, but not sure if I said it correctly... |
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silverkitsune
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But Bowser, what you just demonstrated basically proves my point. Have you ever seen an asian with natural blonde? That would mean that asians don't have the b gene.
Assuming: BB= black hair, Bb= brunnette, bb= blonde
So even if an asian married a full blonde person:
BB x bb = 4Bb
So try their luck next generation:
Bb x bb = 2Bb, 2bb (50% chance of getting blonde child; IF they marry another blonde)
Or
Bb x Bb = BB, 2Bb, bb (marry a brunnete and get 25% chance of getting a blonde)
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Bowser
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I guess its true....its all down to luck......with the odds set against it.....
But it is still possible......especialy if both parent have b= blond genes......but as it was said...very very very rare.... |
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silverkitsune
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| Bowser wrote: |
I guess its true....its all down to luck......with the odds set against it.....
But it is still possible......especialy if both parent have b= blond genes......but as it was said...very very very rare.... |
There are no blonde Japanese. Some might have light brown hair, but there are no pure blooded east asian with blonde hair.
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Bowser
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| silverkitsune wrote: |
There are no blonde Japanese. Some might have light brown hair, but there are no pure blooded east asian with blonde hair. |
I didnt mean pure blond Japanese or pure oriental for that matter neither.........I was just hypothicising......I should be more clear.....sorryz
I meant its still possible for the gene to be present even if you dont posess the final product....
Like....its possible to skip a generation....so a kid with two brown eyed parents could end up with blue eyes coz his grand-dad had'em... |
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Arwen
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I would give my child a Japanese name... If the child still dislikes the name when it's old enough to change it by the law, then he should change it...
Look, a name like Ken is Japanese but all you think of when you here that name is Barbie... Or Cho... Cho is also a Japanese name... Every one think of Harry Potter if they hear Cho... So there are a few Japanese names being known and acknowledged in the Western culture... e.g. Naomi
I think Ume sounds nice... And Miya... Mia is also a Western name...
I was given a finnish name although I have no finnish relatives. So why don't Japanese for my children? [Even if Lilith is the name for my first girl and Hyazinth for my first boy ^^']
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silverkitsune
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| Bowser wrote: |
I didnt mean pure blond Japanese or pure oriental for that matter neither.........I was just hypothicising......I should be more clear.....sorryz
I meant its still possible for the gene to be present even if you dont posess the final product....
Like....its possible to skip a generation....so a kid with two brown eyed parents could end up with blue eyes coz his grand-dad had'em... |
I don't think any east asian people have gene for blonde or blue eyes. If they did, you would see at least some people that have those features. Because these genes show their effects right away. If some one had a "b" gene, they wouldn't have black hair, they'd have brunette.
There are some east asian with very light colored hair and eyes. When I used to live in Korea, I had a friend with light brown hair and grey eyes. But, I think he might have had a disorder like melanin deficiency or something rather than the genes for those.
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pnayako
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So, how is my eyes blue/grey and have light brown hair with no caucasian blood?
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silverkitsune
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So, how is my eyes blue/grey and have light brown hair with no caucasian blood?
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Maybe because you are not east asian?
Look, east asians are very distinct. Not like all other races that has variety of different hair colors and eye colors.
Basically everyone in east asia would have dark hair, and brown eyes.
Nobody said only caucasians have different eye/hair colors.
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sayoku
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pnayako, silverkitsune and bows, stick to the topic, we are not talking about genetics here.
since im asian and speak mandarin, chinese and japanese are similar in many ways, so i could get away with giving my kid or pet (whatever) a ja name.
and plus my native languages had kinda infused with japanese, since taiwan was occupied for a period of time by the japs, so some of the older generations speaks the language.
arwan> cho in chinese or jap? in chinese it means 'autumn' and jap it means 'butterfly', the girl in harry potter, shes chinese.
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