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Pherose Naginata Ashigaru

Joined: Jul 18, 2005 Posts: 486 Location: Milkyway/Earth/ Europe/ Scandinavia/ Sweden/ Halmstad
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Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 6:04 pm Post subject: Do you have what it takes? |
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I just saw a guy in the manga general that says he want to kill someone and it got me wondering.
How many here can say they got what it takes to kill a human being, and i'm not talking about the conditions, like self defence or out of hate or envy. I mean to take a gun and walk up to some random person in your city, aim and squeeze the trigger. Now don't say yes or no in an instant, take a second and think if you would be able to do it without hesitating.
I know i wouldn't be able to kill anyone without a good reason, but if it were a war it's obvious I would kill, it's kill or be killed out there. _________________ Mankind was blessed with curiosity and cursed with greed.
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Xristyan THE Forumer®


Joined: May 09, 2005 Posts: 21728 Location: At the Left Coast of The Maple Leaf
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Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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i don't think i will be able to do that here in Canada... but in the philippines maybe its plausible.. its much easier though if you have certain situations leading up to it.. like hating someone or maybe self defence where you have no hesitations or lowering your inhibitions... but if you were to just randomly kill someone that would tag you as a maniac for you must have a reason to kill other than for the heck of it.. _________________
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Pherose Naginata Ashigaru

Joined: Jul 18, 2005 Posts: 486 Location: Milkyway/Earth/ Europe/ Scandinavia/ Sweden/ Halmstad
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Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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| xristyan wrote: |
i don't think i will be able to do that here in Canada... but in the philippines maybe its plausible.. its much easier though if you have certain situations leading up to it.. like hating someone or maybe self defence where you have no hesitations or lowering your inhibitions... but if you were to just randomly kill someone that would tag you as a maniac for you must have a reason to kill other than for the heck of it.. |
I don't mean it like that, I mean that if you just had to do it for a mission or something. You have to do it, but without a good reason. _________________ Mankind was blessed with curiosity and cursed with greed.
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spankit A-Source Staff


Joined: Jan 29, 2006 Posts: 4562
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Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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probably not.
im not motivated to kill someone without anger.
and unless they've done something to me i really dont
feel that anger. and plus im too empathetic. |
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Itachi-kun Drunken Boxer

Joined: Jul 12, 2005 Posts: 4705 Location: West Coast
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Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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One random guy off the street not thinking of any consequences, sure. Thinking of what would obviously come afterwards, the death penalty or a hell of a long time in prison, hell no. _________________ [img:450:200:d0a28f8b61]http://www.anime-source.com/upload/uploadFiles/9979.jpg[/img:d0a28f8b61]
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stokerino Conscript

Joined: Aug 28, 2005 Posts: 135 Location: London, UK
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Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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If I were somehow assured that I would face no consequences, then I'm pretty certain I could mentally disenfranchise my own conscience long enough to commit the act. Whether it screws me up for the rest of my life is another matter entirely. >_> _________________
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Xristyan THE Forumer®


Joined: May 09, 2005 Posts: 21728 Location: At the Left Coast of The Maple Leaf
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Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Pherose wrote: |
| xristyan wrote: |
i don't think i will be able to do that here in Canada... but in the philippines maybe its plausible.. its much easier though if you have certain situations leading up to it.. like hating someone or maybe self defence where you have no hesitations or lowering your inhibitions... but if you were to just randomly kill someone that would tag you as a maniac for you must have a reason to kill other than for the heck of it.. |
I don't mean it like that, I mean that if you just had to do it for a mission or something. You have to do it, but without a good reason. |
a mission eh... well if it is a mission then money is involved and some cover up most likely.. if the money is big enough and the cover up has no holes in it then i would definitely be able to do it... to know that nothing bad will happen to you after doing an act will most certainly lower any inhibitions you might have or take away a lot of your hesitation..  _________________
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Tevesh ass personally kicked by kaiser & banned

Joined: Feb 04, 2005 Posts: 795
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Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 11:34 pm Post subject: Re: Do you have what it takes? |
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| Pherose wrote: |
| Now don't say yes or no in an instant, take a second and think if you would be able to do it without hesitating. |
"I would everyone to think about whethery they could kill without thinking."
Now, the real question is: Do I have immunity?
The way you made it sound was that you're a hit man for some agency, so if you get caught you can walk away free. The main point of why people hesitate of whether they can do something terrible is because of the consequences. This is why a large portion of "crimes of passion" occur, because the person is not thinking, they're acting. |
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Blademaster newbie!

Joined: Jan 30, 2006 Posts: 40 Location: Philippines
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 9:23 am Post subject: |
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| I can't do it... |
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Pherose Naginata Ashigaru

Joined: Jul 18, 2005 Posts: 486 Location: Milkyway/Earth/ Europe/ Scandinavia/ Sweden/ Halmstad
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 10:13 am Post subject: Re: Do you have what it takes? |
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| Tevesh wrote: |
| Pherose wrote: |
| Now don't say yes or no in an instant, take a second and think if you would be able to do it without hesitating. |
"I would everyone to think about whethery they could kill without thinking."
Now, the real question is: Do I have immunity?
The way you made it sound was that you're a hit man for some agency, so if you get caught you can walk away free. The main point of why people hesitate of whether they can do something terrible is because of the consequences. This is why a large portion of "crimes of passion" occur, because the person is not thinking, they're acting. |
Okay, say you got diplomatic immunity, and a friend asked you to kill someone for them, no money involved. I wouldn't do it unless they've been real jerks all their life. I mean, you're about to rob someone of their life, their life ends the moment you squeeze the trigger, it's like taking all his money, sawing of legs and arms and throwing him out on the street. _________________ Mankind was blessed with curiosity and cursed with greed.
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xenon10 Jikan Samurai

Joined: Oct 25, 2005 Posts: 933 Location: Cebu, Philippines
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 10:24 am Post subject: |
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personally, i need to be a vigilante first(i used vigilante cuz it's more popular here in the philippines than an assassin). even if they say it's for justice, announcing it to the whole city and doing the murder in public is quite ....hmmmm, what's that word?....oh yeah, stupid. were they really doing it for justice? or were they just taking revenge on that person? or they just wanna show off that they're doing something heroic? one way or the other, it's still stupid, and can be very well described as unreasonable. _________________ [IMG:120:38:2d3cd20621]http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f214/xenon10/pwnage4os.gif[/img:2d3cd20621] |
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Pherose Naginata Ashigaru

Joined: Jul 18, 2005 Posts: 486 Location: Milkyway/Earth/ Europe/ Scandinavia/ Sweden/ Halmstad
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 10:31 am Post subject: |
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| xenon10 wrote: |
| or they just wanna show off that they're doing something heroic? |
I can't see the heroic deed in killing someone, death should be a relase and not a punishment. It would be more of a punishment if they locked them up in tiny dark cells where they can be misserable for the rest of their lives _________________ Mankind was blessed with curiosity and cursed with greed.
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rag_gurl A-Source Moderator


Joined: Mar 13, 2005 Posts: 2792 Location: Californication
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 10:34 am Post subject: |
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| I honestly think I would be able to do it. I'm not really afraid of death so I wouldn't really be afraid of murder. Death and murder happens everyday, so why should I be afraid of something that I think is normal. |
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Pherose Naginata Ashigaru

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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 10:39 am Post subject: |
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| rag_gurl wrote: |
| I honestly think I would be able to do it. I'm not really afraid of death so I wouldn't really be afraid of murder. Death and murder happens everyday, so why should I be afraid of something that I think is normal. |
Maybe, but isn't it depressing that something so low as murder has become so common? People nowdays can kill for less than 10 dollars, it's like we're back in the wild west, even if there is a more organised law now, murder is as common today as it was back then _________________ Mankind was blessed with curiosity and cursed with greed.
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rag_gurl A-Source Moderator


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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 10:48 am Post subject: |
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| Murder is pretty sad, and for it to still be common and increase, it's just stupid. Sure I would murder someone, not for the money or fame but for a reason. I get to judge if that reason is good enough for me to get out a gun and pull the trigger on someone. But sadly, this world is filled with stupid people who would kill for 10 dollars and less. |
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