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But to let you know the truth it is those that do not know they are an "ass" that really are one, and in doing so it is they who rule this world (or at least the biblical stories) because when it is all said and done the bible is like one long bedtime story...
Joined: Aug 16, 2005 Posts: 216 Location: In a land of forever twilight
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 1:31 pm Post subject:
Not counting Jesus, I think King David is the most exciting Bible character. A young sheperd boy chosen by God to lead his people, and he was also one of the most pure and loyal Isrealites in the Old Testament. Add to all that the stories about him before and after becoming king (Goliath, flight from King Saul, etc), and you've got one interesting character.
Job is also an interesting character, and probably the most loyal follower in the Bible. So many bad things happened to him, and all his friends tried to tell him that he should give up and get mad at God, yet he remained patient and loyal, and never questioned the will of God. _________________ [IMG:500:100:5f9d323c6a]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v439/spender/Witchbladebanner3.jpg[/img:5f9d323c6a]
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 7:31 pm Post subject:
Jesus is was a good man some dont believe hes biblical some believe he exists today (such as me). my favorite would have to be Shiva the Destroyer from Hinduhism _________________ Want advice DONT WORK AT WALMART... Theres your freebie...
Shiva (Sanskrit: शिव; Hindi: शिव (when used to distinguish lordly status), also known as Siva and written Śiva in the official IAST transliteration, pronounced as /ɕiʋə/) is a form of Ishvara or God in the later Vedic scriptures of Hinduism. Shiva is the supreme God in Shaivism, one of the major branches of Hinduism practiced in India.
Adi Sankara interprets the name Shiva meaning "One who purifies everyone by the utterance of His name" or the Pure One. That is, Shiva is unaffected by the three gunas (characteristics) of Prakrti (matter/nature) namely Satva, Rajas, and Tamas.
Shiva is one of the Trimurti (i.e "trinity"). In the Trimurti, Shiva is the destroyer, and Brahma is the creator and Vishnu is the preserver. Shiva, according to many Hindu traditions, does everything. All other hindu gods and goddess are lesser than Shiva. Even though he represents destruction, Shiva is viewed as a positive force (The Destroyer of Evil), since creation follows destruction. However, according to Shaivism, Shiva is not merely a destroyer but performs five functions: 1. Creator, 2. Preserver, 3. Destroyer, 4. Hiding the sins, and most importantly, 5. Blessing.
Other views contend that Shiva produces Vishnu who produces Brahma and thus creation began, within which the cycle of the Trimurti exists. Shiva also assumes many other roles, including the Lord of Ascetics (Mahadeva, or the Great God), the Lord of Boons (Rudra, or The Howler - rud-iti rudra), and also the Universal Divinity (Maheshvara, the Great Lord).Shaivaites, the worshippers of Shiva consider as the Ultimate Reality (see Ishta-Deva for fuller discussion).
Shiva is usually represented by the Shiva linga (or lingam), usually depicted as a clay mound with three horizontal stripes on it, or visualised as a blazing pillar. In anthropomorphised images, he is generally represented as immersed in deep meditation on Mount Kailash, his traditional abode.
Here is the definition of Shiva from wiki, enjoy Cherry....
learning about other religions is fun, that is why I double major in religious studies. Hooray.
I like the Nifilim. The species that god flooded the Earth to extirminate because he found them to powerfull. Oh, and I liked job too. God killed his family, covered him in sickness and put him thriugh the torments of hell, because he bet satan that even if he put job through these tests, job would still be faithfull. Nice guy. _________________ Official winner of the A-S Worst Thread Ever Award
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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 12:40 am Post subject:
subbergod wrote:
I like the Nifilim. The species that god flooded the Earth to extirminate because he found them to powerfull. Oh, and I liked job too. God killed his family, covered him in sickness and put him thriugh the torments of hell, because he bet satan that even if he put job through these tests, job would still be faithfull. Nice guy.
Yeah yeah and how God washed away the evil ppl (not powerful) and how God rewarded Job with waaay more than ever he had before, really nice guy huh?
Yeah yeah and how God washed away the evil ppl (not powerful)
If you read the bible carefully, you will read about the offspring of the Nifilem which were half human, half angel. They had human's free will and an angel's power. God didn't like that and if you go through the texts carefully you will read about why he actually sent the flood.
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and how God rewarded Job with waaay more than ever he had before
Hmm, yeah and his kids? What did they get? They were killed, and they were innocent. His wife? I belive god turned here into salt. But don't worry, god gave job a great replacement family so it's alright now, huh? _________________ Official winner of the A-S Worst Thread Ever Award
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Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 1:31 pm Post subject:
Xristyan wrote:
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His wife? I belive god turned here into salt
wasn't it Lot's wife that got turned to salt?
or is this salt turning a whole new isolated incident?
Yeah that was Lots' wife not Job's
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If you read the bible carefully, you will read about the offspring of the Nifilem which were half human, half angel. They had human's free will and an angel's power. God didn't like that and if you go through the texts carefully you will read about why he actually sent the flood.
Did you read it carefully? It actually says "And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually...And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth."
And why would God get mad for mankind having free will if he original gave it to them, plus mankind is more precious to him than angels so I think you maybe missing the point
It actually says "And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually...And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth."
And why would God get mad for mankind having free will if he original gave it to them, plus mankind is more precious to him than angels so I think you maybe missing the point
Read a bit more carefully, friend.
The Nephilim were on the earth in those days-and also afterward-when the sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.
We saw the Nephilim there (the descendants of Anak come from the Nephilim). We seemed like grasshoppers in our own eyes, and we looked the same to them."
THE LORD DESTROYED THEM from before the Ammonites, who drove them out and settled in their place.
At that time Joshua went and destroyed the Anakites from the hill country: from Hebron, Debir and Anab, from all the hill country of Judah, and from all the hill country of Israel. Joshua totally destroyed them and their towns, under the lord's command.
No Anakites were left in Israelite territory; only in Gaza, Gath and Ashdod did any survive.
Nephilim were on the earth before the Flood and afterwards, but they appear to be missing during the Flood.
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I have already seen in a vision, and make known to thee that in the generation of my father Jared some of the angels of heaven transgressed the word of the Lord. 14. And behold they commit sin and transgress the law, and have united themselves with women and commit sin with them, and have married some of them, and have begot children by them. 17. And they shall produce on the earth giants not according to the spirit, but according to the flesh, and there shall be a great punishment on the earth, and the earth shall be cleansed from all impurity
That verse is from ancient text that were removed from the bible.
Why would god destroy a race he had created just for sin? Adam and eve had sinned more greiviously by dealing with satan. Also, after the flood god always forgives greater sins that those committed by the flooded peoples. Did you notice that the bible says that the flood killed all but those in the ark, but also says that there were nephilim before the flood, but a few survived it? Curious is it not? _________________ Official winner of the A-S Worst Thread Ever Award
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Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:27 pm Post subject:
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That verse is from ancient text that were removed from the bible.
Why would god destroy a race he had created just for sin? Adam and eve had sinned more greiviously by dealing with satan. Also, after the flood god always forgives greater sins that those committed by the flooded peoples. Did you notice that the bible says that the flood killed all but those in the ark, but also says that there were nephilim before the flood, but a few survived it? Curious is it not?
Are you reading the same bible? Why would God destroy them, probably because their excess and blantant sin became annoying. If you made something that didn't work right would you not remake it? What would be the point in maintaining something that could do only evil and refused to do good?
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Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 11:37 am Post subject:
subbergod wrote:
The Nephilim were on the earth in those days-and also afterward-when the sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.
We saw the Nephilim there (the descendants of Anak come from the Nephilim). We seemed like grasshoppers in our own eyes, and we looked the same to them."
THE LORD DESTROYED THEM from before the Ammonites, who drove them out and settled in their place.
At that time Joshua went and destroyed the Anakites from the hill country: from Hebron, Debir and Anab, from all the hill country of Judah, and from all the hill country of Israel. Joshua totally destroyed them and their towns, under the lord's command.
No Anakites were left in Israelite territory; only in Gaza, Gath and Ashdod did any survive.
Nephilim were on the earth before the Flood and afterwards, but they appear to be missing during the Flood.
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I have already seen in a vision, and make known to thee that in the generation of my father Jared some of the angels of heaven transgressed the word of the Lord. 14. And behold they commit sin and transgress the law, and have united themselves with women and commit sin with them, and have married some of them, and have begot children by them. 17. And they shall produce on the earth giants not according to the spirit, but according to the flesh, and there shall be a great punishment on the earth, and the earth shall be cleansed from all impurity
That verse is from ancient text that were removed from the bible.
Why would god destroy a race he had created just for sin? Adam and eve had sinned more greiviously by dealing with satan. Also, after the flood god always forgives greater sins that those committed by the flooded peoples. Did you notice that the bible says that the flood killed all but those in the ark, but also says that there were nephilim before the flood, but a few survived it? Curious is it not?
subber, the nephillims anscestor are Canaan, one of Noah son if you read carefully the verse, i think you'll spot the hint there _________________
subber, the nephillims anscestor are Canaan, one of Noah son if you read carefully the verse, i think you'll spot the hint there
WTF, what are you talking about. The Nephilem are fallen angels, an the decents therof.
Someone said god destroyed man with the flood because they were full of sin. I thought that god had had eternal love no matter what. If what the bible says is true, and god really did decide he had made a mistake in destroying us, that would also prove without a doubt that he is an imperfect god. Gods don't make mistakes. _________________ Official winner of the A-S Worst Thread Ever Award
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