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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 5:25 pm Post subject: [Game... kinda] Final Fantasy Theory
Ok, I've only played FFVII-FFX-2, so I might be wrong. I have developed a theory for the Final Fantasy games. The main bad guy in the Final Fantasy games is what I call "The Great Evil," but to make it shorter, I'll call it "Evil."
Anyway, here's the basic story of all FF games (or my take on them). The "evil" attacks the world. A band of people come (3-9) together and stop it. It's destroyed, and peace returns (this excludes the backstory for FFX).
So, here's my theory. When the "evil" is destroyed on that world, it planet hops to another planet (i.e. FFVII to FFVIII) and regains the energy that it lost. Once it regains that energy, it remanifests in another form on the new planet. It attacks the planet and the cycle continues. But in the case of Sin, I believe that Spira found a way to keep it at bay but wasn't able to destroy it until Yuna and the Guardians came along.
Well, there it is. Please reply, I want to know your opinons. _________________ I will... never be a memory.
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i don't really think that theory is good. almost every rpg has some evil thing and a group of people that are destined to stop it. its not like some oracle or something, its kinda like something stereotypical. plus if it does go travelling from planet to planet, wouldn't it be possible for the FF8 world to go out and help? and remember the FF7 guy, RedXIII's grandfather, was talking about the world. wouldn't he have some idea of what's going on? i mean, he has an telescope and other scientific stuff.
the theory coudl be correct i guess. but the location of the planets either have to be close to one another or in a different galaxy. they can't be too far or too close to the sun to maintain life of the planet, so they could be in separate galaxies. _________________ [IMG:500:200:4c63381974]http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e36/chipp123098/signature/dizzy.gif[/img:4c63381974]
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 3:48 am Post subject:
this post may, or rather it does, contain major spoilers on the ff7 til ffx-2 games. don't read if you haven't played them and intend to.
an interesting theory, but one that i don't think is very plausible.
first of all, like rya said, the whole "evil attacks world, band of hero destorys evil to save world" isn't exclusive to the ff games... there are ALOT of games out there with the same basic storyline.
secondly, the diffferent ff worlds can't really exist in the same universe, since it would lead to extreme contradiction. for example, in ff7 it's stated that all planets and all life on a planet contains an essence of lifestream. because of lifestream, life can exist. and when a life ends, it's essence once again becomes part of the lifestream, to be reborn as a new life somewhere else.
now, if we'd jump to ff10, it's stated in THAT game that human souls must be guided by a summoner to the farplane. if not, the soul will grow twisted and eventually become a fiend. so fiends are essentially human souls.
but in ff9, fiends are made out of mist. and in ff7 and 8, fiends exist naturally. there's absolutely nothing unnatural about the existance of fiends.
i could go on, but i think i made my point xP
next, we have the great evils. are the great evils in the ff games essentially the same creature? uhh.... i have to say it is unlikely. let's recap the evil guys from ff7 and forward.
we have sephiroth of ff7, ultimecia from ff8, kuja in ff9, yevon in ff10 and then there's shuyin from ffx-2.
the only thing that these persons have in common, is that they wanted to destroy the world. if that. since i believe that yevon was more inclined to ruling the world, rather than destroying it.
then there was sephiroth, who was a hero until he learned that he had been created in a scientific experiment and realized that he had the blood of jenova (who, incidentally, was the "calamity from heaven" that destroyed the cetra) flowing through his veins. then he went berserk, and decided to pick up jenova's legacy, travelling the space and wiping out civilsations wherever he could.
i don't remember ultimecia's story, i think she was just completely batshit insane.
lesse... kuja was also created in a lab, although he was created together with millions of other... genomes? dun remember what they were called. either way, when he found out that he had an expiration date (since all genomes had their deaths set) he set out on a journey to find power, the power to overcome his own death. or destroy the world when he died.
sin was but a tool of yevon, so yevon is the real bad guy. what did he want? probably to keep the humans cowering in fear, worshipping him and living by his rules.
shuyin was once a human, but whose soul has grown bitter over the course of 1000 years and gained enough strength to manifest himself in the real world. now he's back to take his revenge upon the world, who killed him and lenne so long ago.
if you read all of this, you've probably realized that the great evils have absolutely nothing in common. if a creature would only be bent on destruction of worlds, then there's no real need to adapt such.... hmm. intricate forms? you know what i mean xP
sooo... yeah. interesting, but not really plausible imo
Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:58 am Post subject: Re: [Game... kinda] Final Fantasy Theory
Imagine, if you will, a brand sparkling new RPG, where the main enemy isn't out to destroy the world, he's got no plans to summon some sort of monster to destroy the world, he's not even going to bother with causing mayham to your hometown, he's just your typical run-of-the-mill second-grade baddie out to rob a bank...
And the hero?? What kinna hero is going to spend an entire game trying to track down some second-grad bad guy?? Not a very good one for sure.
So, we have a game, about a not-that-great hero, who's hunting a pretty damn pathetic bad guy, doesn't sound all that exciting ey? Maybe it'll work as a comedy, maybe, but in most other cases, it won't make a very good game...
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 5:08 pm Post subject:
That wasn't really all that relevant to the topic, was it? _________________ I will... never be a memory.
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