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PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i don't think its fair, bescause alot of the time, a completely different audience reads the manga, and another watches the anime
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read the posts and couldn't help but notice that hardly any of them talks about the artists of the works. The mangaka is completely different from the director of the anime. The anime company can do whatever they want to do with the anime they're going to do for the manga. They can choose which voice actors which for the characters, which characters to be dropped, what kind of background music they'll be putting, or what kind of art style they're gonna implement. The mangaka can't do anything to intervene with their work unless he or she has the right to do so in a contract. If only the mangaka has the power to make the anime to be better or on par, then I think he or she would have done so. Therefore the two, manga and anime, shouldn't even be compared. It's like comparing whether the revival song of "Heaven" done by DJ Sammy is better than Bryan Adam's. Or let's say something about a movie that's based on a novel. Should one compare which one is better and only choose one media of the story? I say it's a matter of preference. And to my enjoyment, I would do both if I have the time. Does everybody have that luxury? It's a matter of preference.

This is just a wishful opinion, though Sad.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't believe the means of production and conception matters. It's how the manga or anime is received by the viewer. To me, the meaning of the work is derived from my experience of it. Although I might be interested in the process by which it came into being, that information has no bearing on my assessment of the anime/manga as an experience.

I understand that different processes and media will yield different results, I'm saying that I am only interacting with the result and, therefore, that is what I am evaluating.

edit: Actually, I get your point now. You can have your preference but it's not very constructive to compare the two when they can't be judged overall on equal and common terms.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

*nods nods* I hear ya, quosimos.

I've read the entire Ichigo 100% volumes before I watched the anime. Sure there were a bunch that were taken out from the manga, but the anime left me with a good impression. It has a unique and beautiful graphic style, great music choices, nice voice actors, and I've also liked how've they shortened the series.

Why do people keep saying that the anime sux and the manga is better? I dunno. Maybe because the numerous perverted scenes in the manga were taken out in the anime that they felt really disappointed and maybe want everybody else to warn to not make the same mistake as they did. Though, I know know for sure, from my experience (and not any else's), that my evaluation is 100% true.

I know that there are non-"perverted" scenes that may have should been in the anime. But I bet that it must have been hard for the director to cut them out too. There are plenty of reasons but maybe mainly they're short on air time and budget. Anyone can buy the anime license and do a different version of it (for example, DragonBall GT) or if they have the permission from the mangaka, they could make a Flash-based animation. What's sad is that most of the people who'd say "the anime sux and the manga is better" are leechers. Makes me wonder if they even should complain about something they didn't really pay for. And I think people are missing or forgetting the point that sometimes the main goal of an anime is to make people read the manga (or make the manga popular).
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey guys, try this:

if you want to enjoy manga and anime of the same title:

1. watch the anime first, then
2. read the manga

i usually do this on harry potter books/movies to both appreciate them, not building criticisms to which is better.

i tried it on ichigo 100% and it still works!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well i have found that anime and mangas are very different. Some mangas will be better then the anime, and some anime better then the mangas its all on how they decide to make each one. No one is truely the same
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you read the manga, don't watch the anime....it's a waste of time to do so...unless the plot's differnt...you'll know all the plot and to me the action scenes if there are any aren't worth it....

You'll be going, "where did my 9 hours of life go?"
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well some anime does make the action look better but i think manga brings the expressions of the characters out better. both are great in their own ways but for myself i think manga is better Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's depend on what're you comparing.

if you compare the media of course it's not fair. anime and manga REALLY use a different media. if the manga are drawn not so good, the anime can be very good vice versa.

the only thing you can compare about is the story. but off course only if it's the same title. not funny if you compare manga A with anime B, it's just so different...
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh yeah, I agree most definitely! Manga and anime are completely different! I love each of them for their own unique way of telling the story. Take Ouran Host Club for example. The anime had the all-important last episode only loosely based on a manga chapter, and it was even better...the anime episode was fantastic!!

And on NeL's post: I read the manga first usually Razz Then the anime
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When we read a manga, we don’t view it through impartial eyes. We take what we read and process it through our views, prejudices, experiences and opinions. This makes the viewing of each title unique (and why one can person can love a title and another can hate it). In addition to this our imaginations go to work on what a character would sound like, how they would act, what their facial expressions would be like etc.

At the end of all of this you have a personality that you have created from the idea of a mangaka. You take this with you when you go to watch the anime.

Then other people take what they think that character is and transfers it to another medium. The ideas that the author, producers, directors and the viewers have of a character will, inevitably, be different.

So no, it isn’t fair to compare anime to manga. Manga and anime are different forms of entertainment, both of which have their good and bad points. They are different types of beasts in my book. I enjoy each separately from the other with this knowledge in mind.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shouldn't this be in the Anime General section?

Well I'll post my thoughts later, don't feel like typing long today.

Edit: Rather than waste a post space I'll edit here.

Xeno- I did say I'll post it later, crazy admin kid *poke*
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Angel_Armz wrote:
Shouldn't this be in the Anime General section?

Well I'll post my thoughts later, don't feel like typing long today.

no, this thread is old though... it was one of the first ever created in A-S Club... back when it was members-only. It was designed for detailed discussion.

Given that, thanks for your insight Grover. I agree with you wholeheartedly. That's exactly the kind of posts I'd expect to see in the Club AS. ::glarez at Angel:: heeheehee
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This post is to satisfy Xeno's demand of good post so he doesn't take his anger on the new recruits -_- *pokes Xeno*

It is unfair to compare a manga to anime (or vice versa). A lot of popular anime are based on mangas. Now the problem with this is fans demand too much from the production studios. They demand the voices of so and so character to sound the way they want them to. Then they want better BGM and OP and EDs because they don't like it. Then they complain about it not being 100% to the manga and there are crappy fillers. Fans just demand too much and do not enjoy an anime BASED on the manga.

Now there are examples of anime being better than their manga counter-part. One that I can name is Full Metal Alchemist. Most viewers will agree it is much better because the entire series was excellent. Had good VAs, music, animation was fluid and the story was complex and well written.

Now here is an example of anime based on their manga that sucks mojo. One being the Hellsing TV series (not Hellsing Ultimate). Some (not Some as in the member here) may disagree because they probably never read the manga. The thing compare to the manga was it had bad animation, the animation looked really mess and old (Alucard looks like a damn perv), the action was matrix like and slow that didn't look right, mysteries were never solved, music did not fit in with the horror theme, story was mess, etc. This was understandablt because the manga was only up to Vol. 3 when the anime was produced so it only followed to the end of vol.2 and created their own story. The thing was the writers sucked badly. The villian had no character development and no goal or intention of anykind. His powers are never explained how it is to be. Another thing was there were no character development because some characters had great complex past that viewers never got to see.

Blah blah, I'm done, don't wanna stretch it out anymore. -_-

Disagree if you like. I like to read criticism.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Angel_Armz wrote:
This post is to satisfy Xeno's demand of good post so he doesn't take his anger on the new recruits -_- *pokes Xeno*

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They demand the voices of so and so character to sound the way they want them to.

I think this is the biggest problem. When you read manga without seeing the anime, you get to pick for yourself how the characters sound. So when you see the "real" intrepretation of how the character sounds in the anime, some would probably think that the producers got it "wrong." It's one of those things people are going to have to learn to accept.

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Then they want better BGM and OP and EDs because they don't like it.

honestly, I willl watch the crappiest anime out there as long as it has good music. Vice versa too... the best anime can be totally ruined by a crummy soundtrack.

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Then they complain about it not being 100% to the manga and there are crappy fillers.

I never really understood why people would want an extra carbon-copy of what they read. You're already going to know what's gonna happen... wouldn't you rather be surprised and/or see a different perspective of it?
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