Is anime cartoon?

carol_me_14 · Naginata Ashigaru Joined: Jul 20, 2006 Posts: 595

But you shouldn't called it amerime. There's no such thing as amerime in the vocabulary you know. Even in the link you gave me, there's no term as amerime atleast say it like anime influenced animation, just like the title in the article....

Do you mean that only america can copy anime so you can say that it is amerime?

sakib · Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 10:56 pm Post subject:

wow pretty heated conversation here

anyway does it matter if its cartoon or anime. in fact how do you classify cartoon and anime. i've watched Avatar and well it is a really good show in my opinion and so do u classify it as a cartoon or an anime? does that involve artwork or the place its made in. if that's the case would you call a studio created by a person but he started it in the U.S. and it created an animated show but it has 'anime' style drawings (like avatar), would you classify that as a cartoon or anime? please clarify

and just so i dont get flamed i really dont care if it's anime or cartoon, sure artwork is appealing but if it has a good story i dont care
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carol_me_14 · Naginata Ashigaru Joined: Jul 20, 2006 Posts: 595

I'm always the debater here... ^^;;

While most here agree I just disagree... But then, most of the one I've debating have sense. Like this one. I just dont like the over-generalization of cartoons thats all!

sakib · Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 11:15 pm Post subject:

that's true, its kinda like calling a diamond a rock, it decreases its value
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carol_me_14 · Naginata Ashigaru Joined: Jul 20, 2006 Posts: 595

Yeah, you're right... I dont know, but you're the only one agreeing with me here besides Xenocrisis. he's also cool!

redragon3883 · Yari Ashigaru Joined: Jan 12, 2006 Posts: 254

cartoon vs. anime

hmmmmmm
that is an interesting match up, but trully, anime is in someway a cartoon, but it more then just that. there is a definite difference between the 2 (according to me), anime have a deeper plot (sometimes not), and the drawing style is different also. when referring to 'cartoon' my mind go to the western animation style, not the anime style.

that's that
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katsushiro · Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 3:57 am Post subject:

giggity · Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 5:11 am Post subject:

Is anime just plain cartoon? nooooo way!!! cartoons are just pointless funnies to make the more younger audiences entertained. i've noticed over the years the cartoons i used to watch when i was little, have little to no meaning at all. they just do nonsense things which would make little ones laugh. although this may not be the case for everyone, im just stating my opinion.

Anime has moree meaning to the storyline than a regular cartoon does. the drawing style is also different , as redragon has already said. correct me if im wrong but im just going by the cartoons i have seen.

so pretty much, i believe that anime is not just a cartoon, but in a way it is... since theyre both drawn. hmmph!

xenocrisis0153 · Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 5:13 am Post subject:

carol_me_14 · Naginata Ashigaru Joined: Jul 20, 2006 Posts: 595

BUT ANIMES AND CARTOONS ARE ONE AND THE SAME! Only with different names...

Anyway, I've pointed out already about cartoons and animes in my last posts, though I just want to pointed it out, if you want to watch a serious and matured show, what form of TV shows you want to watch, what do you want to prefer? The cartoony ones, (yeah! I said it again! XD) or real people.

For me, TV shows dont need animes for any serious and matured story...

Then why animes are stand out in other cartoons? ITS SIMPLE. ITS GEEKS AND NERDS ESCAPISM OF REALITY. Did I say that out loud? But its true though...

Most of the animes I've seen so far are shonen types, which more focused on hidden powers, monsters, computers, guns, mehas, harem, underaged love interests, fireballs, martial arts, hidden talents, etc...

Which just escapism really. Its more like a video game...

Who really dont want to be a superpowered human, a weapon that can be elongated and can slice to enemies, able to crushed monsters, defeat a God and save the world.

Or you're a HOT LADY that wants to escape a mansion full of zombies and for you to escape, you must solve a series of puzzles and mazes.

More like a story in an anime, right? But its really the story of God of War and Resident Evil.

Do you think if the God of War could be a animated series you could compare it to animes right now? BUT THEY DIDN'T... Because they dont need to do it right now...

I dont know, but for me, animes for me are just animated video games to me. I'm not even interested in story of Naruto anymore, far more fillers, flashbacks and talk, talk, talk... What I do really like are there special moves their Nin Ku techniques. ITS SO COOL!

Thats all for now...

Fission2 · Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:58 pm Post subject:

thats just about as good as generalizing that a soap opera's the same thing as a drama. There are subtle differences. even though the concept of anime's basically a cartoon (no one's arguing that here) I believe it's evolved to a level where it can be distinguished as a different form of animated characters.

hatefulguts · newbie! Joined: Nov 30, 2005 Posts: 13

well, anime is 'animation'. it's not even necessarily handdrawn or computer animation, it could be ink-animation (i saw a really cool chinese one), it could be claymation as well. basically, to me, anime is any animation that was produced by japanese, in japan.
and cartoons are sort of the western version of it (or vice versa) with western themes.
it may just be me disliking the comparison of the two, but i think of them as separate.

Warlocklord · Shogun Joined: Sep 02, 2006 Posts: 2714 Location: Yes!

Interesting discussion, I think I will throw in my two cents. The problem (as I think most people have noted) with cartoons is that the connotation always leads us to think of childish, Disney like cartoons that are only supposed to make us laugh and are usually only intended for children. This can be attributed to Disney. Now Disney was both a boon for American animation and also hurt the animation. The reasoning: Disney brought Animation to the fore-front as a viable medium in which to generate money and to also bring in viewers. However, at the same time, the animation coming out of Disney was geared towards children, and as such all subsequent animation coming out of America was perceived as being only for children. Heck even comics were seen as a childish escape/fad that adults were not supposed to partake in.

Now flash forward to the growth in Anime and you are finally seeing a shift in Animation in America. As the Gen-Xers age and Gen-Y becomes more of a force, we are seeing people demand a change in the type of Animation that exists. A lot of what is being produced today has been greatly affected by the Anime coming out of Japan and the progress animation had made around the world. However, this is just the beginning and Animation (or cartoons) has a long way to go before it will become a more diverse body of work. But currently we are stuck with the same old stuff like SpongeBob and the rest of the Nickelodeon shows, but there is hope.

Examples of hope: The Boondocks, Avatar the Last Airbender, the Last season of Teen Titans, Invader Zim to name a few. However, only the Boondocks was really targeted for an older audience, it still progress and as we the viewers continue to demand more quality animation we might be seeing the beginning of an animation revolution in America. If not we will still be stuck with the same old Cartoons that we have known for so long.

carol_me_14 · Naginata Ashigaru Joined: Jul 20, 2006 Posts: 595

But remember also that anime once also a copy of Disney cartoons. Infact, its more like american cartoons for me, especially in the 1980's. I think some of you even not watched animes in those times. TRUST ME! You never want to know what we're watching in those times... VERY VERY different from what you're watching now...

INFACT, the most watched series regarding came from Japan are the sentai series, REMEMBER THOSE? BIOMAN? and Ultraman series, I even watched the whole series like Ultraman, Ultraman Tiga, Ultraman Ace, etc... And GI Joes and Transformers. I dont even want to watch those animes anymore. Except for sentai series because its fun!

The so called progress of animes just evolve recently with Akira, but then, WHO WATCHES THAT? The matured anime that I've seen in those times though is Fist of the North Star, but its more like a slasher film we've seen in the movies like Nightmare on Elm Street and Friday the 13th.

The real progress really came from the mid 90's until the late 90's, its because most of the countries that have TVs have access to basic cable. And so as viewers wants more of they're watching right now. Unlike before that you can actually watched only 7 channels so you have no choice but to watch those shows wether you like it or not.

Thats all for now!

Warlocklord · Shogun Joined: Sep 02, 2006 Posts: 2714 Location: Yes!

I agree with you carol, but what we are seeing is a differing in progress/maturing of each market. It would seem that anime has really progressed and embraced a very diverse market, whereas, American animation has seemingly stalled. They are at a point at which a change is occurring, however, this change is not happening as fast as it should/could be.

Over the next few years, we should be seeing a change in the type of animation that exists in America. But first, the population as a whole has to come to a realization that animation is not just for children but can be an acceptable medium for entertainment/art.

Oh well only time will tell.