Is anime cartoon?

[carol_me_14]

BUT AMERICAN CARTOONS WAS EVOLVING IN MID 90's!

Remember X-Men, Spawn, Aeon Flux and wild C.A.T.S., Batman the animated series, Spiderman 90's, Fantastic four 90's, Iron man 90's?

BTW, I like the Spiderman the mid 90's version, I mean, everything can happen in that series. I' can relate to the characters unlike what Hanna barbera butchering MARVEL comics in the late 70's and 80's era....

3 names that I had in my mind why the american animation becomes backwards again:

-Genndy Tartakovsky
-Klasy Csupo(the creators of RUGRATS, but I make them in one name)
-Craig McCracken

If you want to complain why cartoons never prosper in terms of story and maturity, ASK THEM! They're the one who destroys the matured cartoons we've seen before in mid-90's.

Now, everyone seemed jumping into simplistic drawing and comic humor cartoons because Genndy, Klasy Csupo and Carig's cartoons are seling into viewers like hotcakes.

I shouldn't support What a Cartoon show and Oh! Yeah cartoons if these things happened. Atleast the comic humor of cartoons today are funny even to adults...

[katsushiro]

[carol_me_14]

Yeah, i know all of that, katsuhiro and I've also experienced that, not just from article that I point out this, its from my personal experience myself...

Anyway, like I said earlier, the american cartoons is also evolving in those times, though there are still the standard cartoons, but cartoons that are popular in that time are shifting towards mature and story driven plot. Like the Uncanny X-Men, but sadly, the cartoons that made by Nickelodeon and the works of Arlene Klasky and Gabor Csupo, even Ren and Stimpy are increasingly becoming popular. Like Rocko's Modern Life, The Rugrats, The Angry Beavers, etc... and also the fact that animes in late 90's are becoming more and more mainstream. The cartoons that have matured storyline are decreasing. Why settle for expensive commercials, merchandise and high cost animation production if you just can buy the rights of anime and voila, instant money. Do we still have to blame the cartoons themselves for something that dont have matured and story driven plot?

Anyway, in around between late '98 until early 2000, cartoons ARE NON-EXISTENT! THATS RIGHT, NON-EXISTENT! It have been replaced by animes, animes and more animes... Then a stroke of light came with the animators that once only works on big animation studios like WB and Hanna Barbera, then they shift to CN and Nickelodeon. Do you know 2 stupid dogs? Genndy Tartakovsky is the one who works on that project. And created comic humor cartoons, Dexter's laboratry, Craig McCracken with PPG and more creators who are in What a Cartoon Show and Oh Yeah! Cartoons. Then came a new breed of cartoons are starting and still exists today. I think CN and Nick did the Oh Yeah! cartoons and What a cartoon show because CN and Nick knows that they'll be bankrupt if they didnt do something about this anime problem.

So they assemble all independent cartoonists and animators in america and make them work for them. And so as the cartoons we've seen today...

[katsushiro]

Yeah, the cartoon slump started as I can remember was like 1999 when Pokemon was shown in the US. Pokemon opened the floodgates for other anime series to be shown abroad. That's why Bleach, Naruto, Full Metal Panic and Full Metal Alchemist are some of the animes shown in the US.

Since that incident, CN and Nickelodeon studios started to hire independent artists to make cartoons for them. I agree with you why there are series like Dexter's Laboratory.
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[carol_me_14]

Though independent artists have more creativity and more dedication to storyline than big animation studios like WB, Hanna Barbera and Disney. Those 3 companies only after the money, the independent artists are more into the story and audience's satisfaction. Even Genndy Tartakovsky admits he likes animes thats why he created Samurai jack...

WHICH ARE ONE OF THE BEST CARTOON I EVER SEEN THOUGH!

[quosimos]

I occurred to me that some animes, especially comedies, actually share a lot of techniques with cartoons such as caricature and slapstick humour. Exaggeration is often used for comedic effect.

[carol_me_14]

Like ranma 1/2...

[katsushiro]

Ranma 1/2.... It was funny from the start but sometimes the slapstick humor can be dragging sometimes. But, there are anime series that are not comedy but they have humorous scenes.
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[carol_me_14]

like what katsuhiro? Most of the animes I've seen with humor are just full of slapsticks and the like...

WOW we're not debating anymore, arent we?

[katsushiro]

Carol>>>> sorry for not answering quickly.. I was sleeping..... Well, you need anime series that are humorous but not comedy. I'll give you these two series which I watched and tickled my funnybone. Humor doesn't need to be slapstick, it can be funny in its own way.

The Full Metal Panic series is a military anime with a tinge of comedy. The humor here are mostly not slapstick, you can laugh at the military antics of the protagonist while adjusting to the peaceful society of the Japanese. Not just the antics but the comedic seriousness of the protagonist himself.

Slam Dunk is a sport anime but it has also moments of humor that are not slapstick. The protagonist on and off court antics provide some humor at its finest.

I know these two are few but some anime series contains the foil, a character which serves as the opposite of the protagonist. foils are sometimes the ones who are funny.

I'm not a fan at debating that's why I don't reply fast.
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[carol_me_14]

But you're debating here before, right? And even until yesterday.

Anyway, I known those animes and yeah, they're funny in their own way. But most animes still uses slapsticks as there humor like Love Hina. And better yet, they uses "fanservice", NEW but still as same as slapsticks. yeah, you feel funny about those moments but the humor wasn't matured either.

Unlike Spongebob squarepants, they uses "situational comedy", thats why their humor can even catered to adults. Like the one uses in comedy sitcoms like Friends...

[katsushiro]

Carol>>> Most harem anime I've seen use fanservice as means of getting fans. This is normal for that genre. Shonen anime use a bit of manly jokes to as sign of comedic personalities of their characters.
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[carol_me_14]

So what genres that have matured and situational comedy then, katsuhiro?

[ap2]

Even though they're smiliar, they still have quite a difference.

Animation :
Animation in anime is far beyond cartoon animation, even though they made at the same time. In anime, animation is very smoothly made, it's drawn for each part and each scene, wheter it's the background or the character, so it made a very lively situation. In cartoon, usually only the character is drawn per scene and using a scrolling picture background, so if a character is running aroud, you can only see the same background are repeated, also it's very easy to tell which object is animate or which object is inaimate in cartoon, this is really give me the nerves man...

Story :
Story in anime usually much heavier than cartoon. Since anime just like a drama/movie made without real character instead of drawn character. Anime story can contain romance, comedy, fantasy, etc. Not like most of the cartoon which only contain comedy and doesn't have strong tears-dropping story like anime does.

So, after all i think they should be put on different place. actually it's ok for me if i hear someone says anime is cartoon, but i'd just don't... hmm what to say... very keen about it.
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