Is anime cartoon?

[Akazu]

I thought cartoon was something for children like 10 and below. I thought that anime was uhhh ... higher than cartoon? LOL nah its just that i think anime is more mature than cartoon. (the ones i watch)

[Hork]

People who call anime a cartoon are usually ignorant of what it is. Synopsis: A cartoon is not anime and anime is not a cartoon.

[carol_me_14]

Actually, the term cartoons on animation is already outdated even the company who once created it. Cartoons are just slapsticks humor with talking animals and superhero animations with cheesy dialog, and animations that have poor quality. And also only intended for children.

Even american animation have outgrown with that. Today, they dont want to call them CARTOONS ANYMORE. Infact, Nickelodeon calls their animation Nicktoons(very catchy phrase wasnt it?). CN calls their animaton Cartoon Network toons, NOT JUST CARTOONS. Disney also change their animation format, not the kiddy animation once from early 90's featuring Donald Duck and Mickey Mouse, but they're making animated films that can cater to a whole lot of audiences like The Incredibles, Finding Nemo, Toy Story, Toy Story 2, etc...

Even the story change, and you cannot call it CARTOONS anymore. Family Guy, American Dad, Spongebob Squarepants, Jimmy Neutron, Danny Phantom, Fairly Oddparents, As Told By Ginger, Samurai Jack, Dexter's Laboratory, Justice League, etc... are only some of the american animation that have good story and animation that you cant even call it CARTOONS ANYMORE.

I'm only defending american animation because I've seen the posts in this thread and you're bashing american animation itself, because I actually like american animation that mentioned above even now....

[xenocrisis0153]

[carol_me_14]

err... As told by Ginger was longer than 6 episodes you know... As told by Ginger's episodes was as long until her graduation to junior High. Imagine the manga Ichigo 100%, that's how long it is.

About classic Nicktoons, the only cartoons I really like not because I feel nostalgic about it, but because it have also matured humor was Rocko's Modern Life. My most favorite classic Nicktoon.

And DOUG?!! IS THAT FROM DISNEY? I even seen the movie of it. The movie kinda sucks though...

[xenocrisis0153]

[carol_me_14]

OK, I will comment one more time on this thread, about comparing american animation and anime. The only comparison that people can make between these two are the artwork and japanese animation have a term in general, "anime".

THATS IT!

The so called "cartoons" actually change and evolved dramatically that the only difference you can actually see was where's the creator from. Is he/she from Japan or in United States?(Sorry, I cant say where the animation is made, that'll be another topic).

The sketches, storyline even the humor was equal. Wether it's american or japan. OK, lets compare, shall we?

In Love Hina, Naru always punch out Keitaro and she always annoyed by him. But in reality, she have deep deep feelings towards him. Now, compared that to Hey! Arnold and Jimmy Neutron.

And about humor? Are animes funnier than so called "cartoons" of america? Are american animation always settle down on simple slapsticks humor like Tom and Jerry and Bugs Bunny cartoons? 2 WORDS: SPONGEBOB SQUAREPANTS! I'm still watching the reruns once in a while you know. The humor was CLASSIC! I even watch the movie in DVD and it is AWESOME! One of the best movie animation EVER!

[katsushiro]

Anime is technically cartoon but this is different from the cartoons we know. If you say cartoon, it refers to the western made. If you say anime, it only refers to the ones made in Japan. Korean and Chinese made are not considered anime.
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[carol_me_14]

And what about "cartoons" with Anime type of animation and artwork? What do you consider about that? IS IT ANIME OR JUST PLAIN CARTOONS? Like Avatar and Teen Titans?

OK, the word cartoons was just too harsh already even for american animation especially someone already over-generalizing it. Oh! Its Hey Arnold! But its bad, because its a cartoon! Hey... Its Avatar, and it have anime style of animation, I think this will be good. But its american made, we know that "cartoons" made by americans are bad because its not made by Japanese. So, lets just watch Pokemon, Beyblade, Duel Masters and Crush Gear, because its made by Japanese!

[StrykerBlue]

carol, you made some great points about anime fans over-generalizing whether animation is good or bad depending on what nation produces it.

Personally, I've never seen any kind of animation to come out of any other nation than Japan that has the substance, plot, character development, etc. that anime has. I think American studios are noticing that anime is what they should be aspiring for, and the end result is a cartoon like Avatar.

In my opinion, if it wasn't made in Japan, it isn't anime--it's a cartoon. And because of the negative connotations that go along with calling something a cartoon, it makes it so that animation that isn't Japanese anime is looked down upon.

I might just be picky, but I actually hate it when people call anime "cartoons." It always seems they have a sense of sarcasm in their tone of voice, like they're saying watching anime is an immature activity and a waste of time--something a child would do. I get rather offended when people call anime "cartoons," whether out of ignorance or malevolence.

[Black_Wraith]

cartoon is cartoon and anime is anime
cartoon is mainly used in USA and Europe and the animation is too simple and solid. anime is mainly used in Japan and sometimes maybe in east asia and the animation quality is so much better.
anyway anime has a better storyline than most cartoon. the feelings are so much more complicated so if you like deep emotions then you should watch anime.
These are just my opinions
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[Fission2]

Similarily cartoons and anime are forms of animation involving drawn characters. The difference is the style of which various emotions are portyrayed and drawing style. Most of the time, cartoons use gags that involve hyperbolous stunts, commonly associated with ACME. Cartoons generally focus on pathos and ethos. Anime has more realisitic and believable elements that focus on pathos, ethos and logos. Most cartoon are generally more poorly drawn/animated then anime because anime takes into account the background a lot more seriously then cartoons generally do.

[carol_me_14]

I miss this thread. I think this is where I should be... Anyway, animerime thats what it called, right?

katsuhiro>Is it still more of over-generalizing for us to distinguish what is MADE FROM JAPAN and what is FOREIGN MADE? I think its not even a term for me. Animerime. More like you called Avatar the Last airbender a copycat by that term, animerime...

OK, I made a cartoon that have anime style to it, so it means my cartoon was a animerime?

REMEMBER, anime was a french word, and that term only uses just recently to distinguish what cartoons are made from Japan. YES! I BLUNTLY SAID IT, cartoons made from Japan. And the original animes that we call right now was just a COPYCAT, sorry for the term and sorry to offend you, but it is the truth that made by Japanese from Disney.

I think the first anime was Astroboy. OK, this is what NOT TO SEPERATE from ordianry cartoons from animes, animes in those times are worse than american cartoons. THERE! I SAID IT! >.< PLEASE, DONT FLAME ME! But it is the truth!

Have you watched Kimba the white lion and Speed Racer, or those super robot shows like Combatler V and Ghetto Robo? Now... we're getting into something.

Ok, this is the story of Kimba the White Lion, Kimba was a boy lion, who dont want to eat meat and dont want to hurt anyone. He is a vegetarian! XD And he can speak in Nihongo, or in english dubbed, in english! XD So, he ordered his own territory to be vegetarian also... XD

Funny story wasnt it? But it is the truth!

And what about the artwork? Disney was BETTER, much much better! Even in terms of animation and in artworks in mangas themselves, american cartoons and artwork was better. Have you seen Cyborg 009? Imagine even in 1980's that's the same artwork over and over. No visual talent and creativity, wasnt it? But thats really what the artwork in the 1980's. Kimagure Orange road was one of them, devilman was one of them.

Dragonball(the original) was just a series of random adventures of Son Goku. No specific plot at all, no purpose as he was fighting. Its just a series of events if you ask me...

Even in early 90's, have seen Slayers? No specific plot, Ranma 1/2, no specific plot, DBZ, no specific plot, Sailormoon, no specific plot, etc...

The evolution of cartoons and animes themselves just change only recently. If you ask me, even american cartoons does change. X-Men, Spawn, Aeon Flux and wild C.A.T.S. introduced american cartoons that have matured themes.

Its just a change. Its not because its made by Japan or from other countries, its just the animation scene just change and matured. THATS ALL!

[katsushiro]