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What was so bad about the ending? Kira was out of control. He started off fine, punishing the big criminals, but he quickly lost sight of his goal by using the smallest criminals to further his plans. You can argue that by ignoring small petty crimes will minimize the fear of his power and absolute authority, but keep in mind the reason for small crimes such as shop lifting. Was the person desperate? Was it really his fault? Was it his only offense ever? He didn't care about the circumstances, and furthermore, he didn't even do this for the greater good. He wanted it for his own selfish reasons - to become god, to instill fear in everyone by letting them know that he had the power to do anything, and that by only wiping out criminals, he was being generous and upholding justice, which is when you think about it, an excuse to gain power and blind people of his true nature.
In a society where killing is morally wrong, you can't blame the writer for not going with an ending in which morals and righteousness lose to logic and so called 'justice'.
Yea, I understand what you're saying but...wouldn't it have been awesome if Kira actually became GOD??? Killing everyone and just looking all cool. lol, but I know that it had to end the way it did.
yea, i think the ending of deathnote kind of shows how Kira really isn't a god. He was merely a toy for ryuk's entertainment. He is nothing more than a human and everything he tried to accomplish was in vain. The last parts of Kira's life shows him reverting from his cocky arrogant god stature attitude to a mere human begging and fighting for survival. I think that sight is why his follwer stabbed himself. He realized that kira was really not a god and he was led to the path of destruction. Kira goes out with a whimper and not with a bang.
Kira would have became a god if he'd only gotten the eye and used it wisely... lol. I think Kira was smart enough to take over the world. He was willing to sacrifice anything and everything but himself. A pitiful god he would have been.
I could not think of any other possible way to end the series. The ending left a strong impression that good always prevails. although I am not really sure if that was what the author wanted to convey.
in any case, there can be so many arguements about kira and if his right or wrong and if the ending is justified, well in my opinion kira is defintely inferior to L, w/o the load of help he got, L wuda won but then again the anime wud be even shorter and we wouldnt want that to happen
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 1:58 pm Post subject: Reality Check
I believe this will get long...
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This ending and such has gotten me thinking so I decided to search for some answers. First I’ll introduce myself and tell you my thoughts and questions. I am R. (I also wanted to do that!) or Rada.
The ending in the anime was so different than the manga version. I liked the anime version better because I believe L should be watching Light as he dies. You can really feel for Light with this ending, more sad and touching. Mercy has hit Light hard… Still it would have been more interesting if L had lived, I wonder what would have happened if that was the case?
L and Light are truly two interesting characters who both believe in justice very strongly. At first I liked Light but as he became more demonlike I started to fall away from him… L, on the other hand was strange at first but he grew on me, I felt connected because I’m like the same way as he is, well different ways but still the same.
I still think that L knew this may have happened one way or another, it was so perfect to have him watching Light in his final moments of life. If they had met at different cercumstands they could have been really good friends. Ryuk, in other words must have knew something like this would happen otherwise what are the chances of him dropping the Death Note at the very moment Light was looking out the window? I say the chances are about 30%-70% on this matter.
I felt guilty at this ending, the anime one, because after L died I wanted him to pay for what he had done. The manga one was pretty harsh and pathetic on Light’s part. The anime was more suitable for Light’s demise in a way. As he was walking I believe light was thinking, ‘Why? Did I do all this again? I should have never picked it up in the first place…’ The saying curiousity killed the cat fits this statement for me. In a way Light was the Cat and L, Near, and Mello were all the mice.
For second when I saw L standing there I thought he was going to say something like this: ‘See, justice always wins in the end…’ or ‘Goodbye Light Yagami. There’s no way out of this one…’ or something like that. Since Light was L’s first friend, L was disappointed that his friendship was betrayed so easily. I believe L was crying that’s why they hid his eyes, I mean I would have loved to see L’s eyes once more… If I was in L’s shoes I would have done the very same…
L in the whole series was my most favourite character, then Near and Light. I feel that L shouldn’t have died. Light, on the other hand, had it coming one way or another. I hope this may have answered so of your questions or such. I hope the special comes soon, maybe the answers I’m looking for on that special. choices and plans… but it makes sense. I think L knew Light would lose at somepoint, it really begins to bring some questions and answers to light. It’s interesting how things worked out so well even after what Light went through to get this far. I read somewhere that the last chapter in the manga was suspose to be irony on Light’s part, he did become a God but not a real “Live� God.
Someone brought up Mello so I was thinking again...
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Now that you bring it up, it was all Mello’s plan in the first place. I thought he was a bit rash in his chioces and plans… but it makes sense. I think L knew Light would lose at somepoint, it really begins to bring some questions and answers to light. It’s interesting how things worked out so well even after what Light went through to get this far. I read somewhere that the last chapter in the manga was suspose to be irony on Light’s part, he did become a God but not a real “Live� God.
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 2:01 pm Post subject: What if it was the other way around?
I also found this which may question or confuse people but would make sense in some ways...
This was from Jasonisme...
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This was and extraordinary anime, and in my sense of justice the ending was in evils benefit. I am an solder, and I have seen combat and from those life experiences and my own sense of justice i draw those conclusions. I have seen many innocent women and children killed in combat. I myself have killed children to save my life, and in all probability killed noncombatants in the cross fire. That is the nature of war. Light was at war. He killed the FBI and others who were chasing him to save his life and prevent such an awesome power as the deathnote from falling into others hands. He killed people who did horrible things to others, if this was “right� will be argued depending on each persons sense of justice. What many overlook are his results, and the thousands if not millions of lives he saves. Were it be from all the criminals he takes off the streets to the fact that he ends WAR, thousands if not millions of lives are saved from death. If you dislike like Light as a person that is understandable not everyone likes everyone and no human is perfect we see that in Lights actions and god complex but no man or women is without flaw. But i myself find it hard to sentence millions to death and despair because i don’t like someone. How many children would be mutilated, raped, decapitated, bombed and beaten in those Wars? by the criminals? Can you really give those horrible deaths on the truly innocent children of the world when you Judge Light to death? There are people in this world now, single people, who have far more power then Light ever had and use it for nothing but there own ends. In my sense of Justice Light did the best he could with the power he had to make the world better, no ones perfect, he made plenty of mistakes, many things i would have done differently but hind sight is 20/20. Am i evil because i killed people in wars of “justice�? am i evil because people died so i could defend myself? am i evil because innocent people died? Light did the best he could to better the world, I did the best I could. I don’t know a single solder who has been to combat would would not freely give there lives to end war. Light did that. Thats more then Gandhi, Jesus, and Muhammad and the countless years of humanity ever did. I can’t see how anyone could wish that hell to return to earth. That in my sense of Justice is EVIL. Light saved millions at the cost of thousands, as bitter as that taste’s to some would you really want it the other way?
Lots of talk about the ending here, which really didn't matter alot to me because I didn't find this series all that interesting to begin with. I'm still bugged that folks are RAVING about this series when there just wasn't enough going on to make it out to be an ultimate Anime series.
I started checking out the other reviewers from Anime-source, and I found that all the recent reviewers who gave it a "10" had only rated maybe one or two other series, and many had only rated Death Note and no other series. So I wonder if these folks really have something to campare this to.
So, I'm real interested in how others would compare this series to Elfen Lied, Monster, Claymore, FMP 2nd Raid, and any other solid intense shows where there were characters that I personally found alot more interesting than in Death Note.
What you're saying is simply a difference in taste. I've seen all the shows you mentioned (with the exception of Monster) and they're all, for the most part, action oriented anime while Death Note isn't. Comparing Death Note to something like Elfen Lied or Claymore is like comparing School Rumble to Code Geass.
If you don't like the subject matter and genre, you're not gonna like the characters either.
Hey Mr./Ms. Faraz. Thanks for your thoughtful reply. I guess Death Note is more of a drama/fantasy kind of series rather than action. And yes, I am talking just subjectively here. But regardless of genre, I just didn't find any of the characters all that likeable except for Light's "girlfriend". I guess I could see where someone might like "L" because he's smart and quirky, but that just wasn't enough for me. MONSTER was probably the best "straight drama" series that I've seen once it got going (70-plus episopdes, but it kept me interested). Anything else that you've seen that has a quality plot with lots of interesting characters?
It would have been so cool if in the end L was still alive and made a deal with rem in secrecy and planned everything out. Sucks that L had to really die. Didn't know much about his past either or his real name.
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lol, but I know that it had to end the way it did.
and we wouldnt want that to happen
