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subbergod Naginata Ashigaru

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Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 5:29 pm Post subject: call to creationists |
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I challange any creationists to argue against evolutionists. Make your stand!
Rules: No cursing please. Try to be faily respectfull, but show some passion. Try to post clear, and well written messages. No two line posts.
If this thread has been made before, I apologise, but please leave this up for a while. |
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Alasdair newbie!

Joined: May 05, 2006 Posts: 9
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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| What are "evolutionists"? Is it a belief system now? Am I a "gravitationalist" because I accept the theory of gravity? Am I a "germist" because I accept the germ theory of disease? |
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subbergod Naginata Ashigaru

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Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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sorry al. I know that you are much more knowledgable than I in this situation. Please share some evidence towards your opinion. I will not label you as an evolutionist again... *coughevolutionistcoughchoke*
kidding, sorry.[/i] |
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CloudBlade Ronin Samurai

Joined: Dec 17, 2004 Posts: 657 Location: In the rice paddies.... picking rice
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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this should be fun... but remember~
1-read everything the person said. even if it's long, it contains their views.
2-keep an open mind, and be rational.
3-if evidence is cited, give credit to your source
lets keep this fair and clean.
i think subbergod should start off _________________ Shepherd the lost sheep
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subbergod Naginata Ashigaru

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Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 2:22 am Post subject: |
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I started this tread under instruction of Alasdair. He said he will only post once a day, but he will pown you all. He knows a crap load of stuff. Cloud Blade, you are about to get bitched.
But I will start off.
God is fake. |
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Rya Yari Ashigaru

Joined: Apr 08, 2005 Posts: 394 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 2:43 am Post subject: |
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| subbergod wrote: |
| God is fake. |
No.
Great discussion btw  |
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subbergod Naginata Ashigaru

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Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 3:35 am Post subject: |
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Yes. Prove he isn't.
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| what a great disscussion |
We wait for Alasdair to start us off. |
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seefutbow A-Source Staff


Joined: Mar 08, 2005 Posts: 207
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Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 4:13 am Post subject: |
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| subbergod wrote: |
| Rules: No cursing please. Try to be faily respectfull, but show some passion. Try to post clear, and well written messages. No two line posts. |
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I started this tread under instruction of Alasdair. He said he will only post once a day, but he will pown you all. He knows a crap load of stuff. Cloud Blade, you are about to get bitched.
But I will start off.
God is fake. |
I just love how you like to contradict yourself.
On a more serious note however, I don't see why people are so adamant about taking one side or the other. Is it really so hard to believe that a higher power had a hand in creating the universe and decided to employ something like evolution?
And also, I'd like for someone to prove to me that God doesn't exist. I mean people ask for proof of his existence, but isn't that what religion is based on? Faith that God (or whoever/whatever you believe in) does exist right? Forgive me if I'm mistaken in believing that. |
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leoxjm A-Source Admin


Joined: May 04, 2005 Posts: 6155 Location: UIO
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Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 4:25 am Post subject: |
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Yes. Prove he isn't.
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Prove he is.
Unfortunately evolution and creationism are two of those things I don't really care about. Personally I find evolution more convincing beacuse of all the evidence scientist typically rub on people's faces, like stratology (I think it's called that), comparative embriology, the fossil record, genetics, etc. etc. That god created the earth and man in 7 days is not my viewpoint because I don't know if god exists or not, and honestly, I don't care either. But since I doubt god's existance I cannot accept the creation of the world by "him". Period. Plus, I have studied the bible and I know that it is not to be taken literally, and that includes creation as far as I know. So far I haven't encountered anything I would call evidence to support creation. That is all for the moment, I suppose.
At 2:30 am after a long day I don't feel like a deep thinker. I know my point is weak, but I'll be baclk later to continue the discussion. _________________
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Rya Yari Ashigaru

Joined: Apr 08, 2005 Posts: 394 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 5:22 am Post subject: |
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| subbergod wrote: |
Yes. Prove he isn't. |
No sorry, I can't. And I wouldn't even if I could. Actually I don't even care whether or not God is fake. It just amazes me how people in almost every internet community will sooner or later get a thread like this started, using the same old arguments for both sides over and over again. In the end noone will be convinced and a lot of time is wasted.
But do whatever you like, I'm outta here.
PS: God exists. It's Haruhi Suzumiya. |
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sayoku EviL DoLL

Joined: Jul 22, 2005 Posts: 8164 Location: la la land
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Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 5:47 am Post subject: |
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seefutbow> thats exactly what i was thinking. i see Rikku isnt the only thing we agree on lol
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lol _________________ "Look at me, with my pretty bracelet and tiara... I'm a fuckin' princess!"
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Bowser The Very Lonely Wolf

Joined: Mar 26, 2005 Posts: 8282 Location: stuck in tard tard land
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Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 6:27 am Post subject: |
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Does it realy bloody matter......
I mean......if you believe in evolution....*thumbs up*....good for you....
.....if you belive in creation......*pat on the back*.....good for you......
.......everybody is different......there are those who believe in gOd.....(who make up the majority of the world actualy)....
...and there are those who dont.......who prefer to keep to science and facts.......
....I say good for you all.......keep to yourselves......no need to start up somthing thats only gonna end with no conclusion......
or if there is a conclusion......its probably coz the other party got killed...^^ |
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ethylenediamine Conscript

Joined: Oct 18, 2005 Posts: 132 Location: Midland, travelling as the Century Slayer
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Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 6:42 am Post subject: |
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Curses to you all! You guys didn't even acknowledge my ideals! Evolution...Creationism....
Where is the love for ethylenediamine? Where is my ID faith.....That is Idiotic Design?
http://www.scq.ubc.ca/?p=229 |
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Alasdair newbie!

Joined: May 05, 2006 Posts: 9
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Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 11:37 am Post subject: |
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Starting off a topic on Evolutionary theory with "God is fake"? That doesn't make any sense whatsoever. I don't see that as any different from starting off a discussion on gravity with "God is fake". What fundamentalist atheist bullshit.
The reason I came here (or at least what Subbergod said) was to clear up misunderstandings on evolutionary theory. Subbergod here said that there was a discussion on it previously in which people argued against it. I'll start off by saying these people are very very good at sounding reasonable to laymen. Not very many people have the knowledge to show that it's all BS. (Although a lot of the time, it's pretty obvious BS ) It has a nice sweet colourful candy shell, but it's still BS. Lying and misleading in the name of Christianity. These people aren't true Christians. They lie and decieve in the name of Christ! Show them what real Christianity is! And so I'm here to educate.
You can call it a debate, but that wouldn't do it justice. It's not two opposing opinions where nobody is right and nobody is wrong. It's not science vs religion as it is so commonly framed. It's knowledge vs ignorance.
However, I'm quite tempted to leave already, seeing as this has already degenerated into "GOD IS FAKE!!!" "NO GOD IS REAL!!!" "NO HE'S FAKE!!!".
So, I guess take your best swing at evolutionary theory I hope you learn something new about your Universe and planet. |
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Alasdair newbie!

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Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 11:56 am Post subject: |
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| Looking back at the thread in question, it's not even really about evolutionary theory. It's about atheism, and that's a whole new kettle of fish. STOP TRYING TO LINK EVOLUTION AND ATHEISM. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME. Most Christians in this world accept evolutionary theory. Most Christian churches do. A lot of biologists are Christians. Evolution does NOT equal Atheism. That's one of the tactics that anti evolutionists employ against evolution. "Hey, if you accept evolution, that makes you an ATHEIST". Most people, being not atheists, will thusly become hostile towards a theory that doesn't say there is no God. Capiche? |
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