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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:11 pm Post subject:
If it were just if the species changed, then obviously. Microevolution is not in debate. Macroevolution is. Micro, is just changes in the species to adpat to enviornments. Macro, is the origin of life, which is in debate. _________________ [img:450:200:d0a28f8b61]http://www.anime-source.com/upload/uploadFiles/9979.jpg[/img:d0a28f8b61]
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Joined: May 09, 2005 Posts: 21728 Location: At the Left Coast of The Maple Leaf
Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:11 pm Post subject:
so both theories are majorly flawed... one having so many pot holes and the other erm having a very poor fall back...
so we can't really put an end to this discussion since both are flawed and still in the process of reforming each other to better explain the world we live in and as they do that we are left with going to arguments which lead to the stuff i just saw a few pages back...
edit:: so if this thread is just asking if evolution is happening then im pretty sure not even the creationist can argue that we have evolved... it is evident enough from all the fossil digging we have been doing... _________________
so both theories are majorly flawed... one having so many pot holes and the other erm having a very poor fall back...
Erm, no not really. the evidence supporting both micro and macro is far more valid than anything for ID.
Therefore, one chooses the explaination with the most supporting and accurate evidence. _________________ Official winner of the A-S Worst Thread Ever Award
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:17 pm Post subject:
Intelligent Design is not creationism. If this thread is really just intelligent design, then you have two concepts which don't go together. A creationist may believe in microevolution, but can not believe in ID without denouncing the belief in creation. _________________ [img:450:200:d0a28f8b61]http://www.anime-source.com/upload/uploadFiles/9979.jpg[/img:d0a28f8b61]
I just wanna be your light.
Intelligent Design is not creationism. If this thread is really just intelligent design, then you have two concepts which don't go together. A creationist may believe in microevolution, but can not believe in ID without denouncing the belief in creation.
I assume you are reffering to the fact god could have created us and we evolved from there.. Yes, I do see the distinction between that and ID.
I do not personally agree with either of the two, but creationism cannot easily be dissproved, or at least proven to be unlikely, as can ID. _________________ Official winner of the A-S Worst Thread Ever Award
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:28 pm Post subject:
I'm just trying to put forth the groundwork for an arguement I'll give tommorow when I have the time, that gives a clear cut way to tell what's true. Without it, we might all want to just become Buhdist. _________________ [img:450:200:d0a28f8b61]http://www.anime-source.com/upload/uploadFiles/9979.jpg[/img:d0a28f8b61]
I just wanna be your light.
Joined: Jul 12, 2005 Posts: 4705 Location: West Coast
Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:41 pm Post subject:
Philosophers have done it for years. They just ask and give the answer in a different way than most religious people would.(For reference, science is a religion.) And quite obviously god is not love. God may love, but he is not what he does. Because if god were love then the arguement "god is love. Love is blind. Ray Charles is blind. Therfore, Ray Charles is god." would be a decent statement and we would be watching Jamie Foxx every Saturday. _________________ [img:450:200:d0a28f8b61]http://www.anime-source.com/upload/uploadFiles/9979.jpg[/img:d0a28f8b61]
I just wanna be your light.
Because if god were love then the arguement "god is love. Love is blind. Ray Charles is blind. Therfore, Ray Charles is god
No one is debating the possibility that Ray Charles is god. But who is to say love is blind? Can anyone really define love?
Please people, join in the conversation, just let's not argue about the existence of god. It is an eternal and futile conflict, that will end up with some radical Islamic group getting offended and staging a bloody riot, rallying for our death.
I also would love to hear some people's phylisohpical ideals, despite the slight strech in relevence to the thread's name. _________________ Official winner of the A-S Worst Thread Ever Award
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