Have you ever shot someone in the face?

[CaptainFuzzy]

Jack Thompson's insane anti videogame rants have made their way into the headlines again. This time, he says the only people to ever shoot someone in the face are hitmen and gamers.

Ive never shot someone in the face and ive been playing for close to 2 decades. This begs the question, how many of you gamers out there have every acually shot someone in the face?

(source: http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/711/711315p1.html

[Raiden]

well....I Rarely hit.shoot people in the face unless it requires a 1 hit kill (I'm talking about games).

Shooting people on the head requires less bullets to put him/her down compared to the 3-5 bullets in the body. IF I ever shot someone in the face, that's purely an accident since I don't go for headshots(unless they accidentally lined up in my crosshairs).

besides...if you shoot someone in the head/face...the likely of their survival is really low or no chance at all...since the brain is in there.
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[seefutbow]

I'm afraid to say I have many a time during my high school/CS days. O head shots were such fun ^_^.

[Fenix]

[nobodyspecial]

Thompson's statement that "Nobody shoots anybody in the face unless you're a hit man or a video gamer." is ridiculous. Obviously he hasn't done any research in gunshot victims. This person is very dangerous in that he blames most if not all violent behavior on video games. Not the parents, video games. And instead of the public thinking, "Maybe we need to sit down and spend time and talk to our kids, you get a repsonse, Yes, violent games caused our child to go out of control"
Personally, I mostly play FPS. The worst shooter game I have ever played was Postal. The game is basically about going through an average day of this person. Like for instance, shooting the clerk at the grocery market, or using whatever weapon you have. While you may be forced into violent situations, there are plenty of other scenarios where you don't have to go on a killing spree. (Though I admit I did)Like GTA, the more violent you are, the higher the response by the police and by the public. Honestly, GTA is tame compared to Postal.
My parents taught me between right and wrong, reality and fantasy. So while they were worried that I played all these violent games, I never went out and decided to shoot up some cars, run over pedistrian, break onto military installation and steal vehicles or get a prostitute then beat her up to get my money back.
Blaming just the game is asinine. Parents need to start parenting and Thompson needs to start doing some research the next time he decides to open his mouth. Though hopefully he'll be around a bit. I admit, he makes me laugh.

[Rhysticgon]

I have to side with nobodyspecial on this one. First off, no I have not shot anyone in the face, except in paintball but does that honestly count... anyway the whole The only person who shoots people in the face are hit men or video gamers is completely absurd. In fact I believe if anyone were to shoot a person, and that person had no way of defending himself, and was just standing there, the gun would always be aimed at the head. For a person to be led there from video games is kinda out there unless of course due to bad parenting. I have to say the main reason for all this ridiculous crap is just simply bad parenting. Its kinda like a virus, one spoiled brat leaks his techniques to others and so forth. And Im sorry if this offends anyone but I was raised on the "if you do anything bad your ass is getting beat by the hand from the dad and by a stick from the mom", "and if you do anything really bad your just disowned" rules. and I had; HAD a friend that was way out of line, I believe this was because his parents were more contemporary and believed that hitting a child was wrong. Further more because of this, and their lenience in discipline their kid basically became an eye sore to society (in my opinion). It may sound harsh but seriously this kid was out of line. After he found out about child services (or whatever it is, to be honest I still have no idea what it truely is) he started threatening his parents that hed call them or something if they didnt do or get what he wanted. Im not exactly sure since I was only around once when this happened and I didnt feel like sticking around for that. This was around 6 years ago. Now he's dead. I wonder why, according to his parents, he ticked off some guy and the guy just sunk one in him (his age 16-17 when this happened). So from my experience bad parenting is the cause of stupid violience. (yes I know that kid didnt shoot anyone in the face or nothin but if the situation was turned to the flip side I bet he would have shot that guy)

Im sure many will disagree, but when it comes down to it, bad parenting causes violence. bad parenting could, COULD be caused by society, simply because the parents are afraid of getting in trouble for hitting their child(and thats not to say without good reason considering the amount of people waiting on getting some quick cash off of it in a court trial by using the he beat the kid excessively kinda crap) But there has to be a point where the parent says enough this kid is out of line and find a way to discipline him. To be honest that line should not exist. The parent should discipline the kid right away on right and wrong. Im not saying hitting the kid is always the right thing to do. (But in my case if I ever got hit I straightened myself out right away so I wouldnt get hit again). Sometimes the best thing may be just to take something away from the kid. By this I would mean video games.... this leads me to my next rant

I see a lot of 13 year olds cursing and using ni**** a lot as well as other racial slurs and it ticks me the hell off. They are playing a game and are just not creating a fun enviroment. These kids should be hit in my opinion, but further more (because I believe it wont stop them from saying that kind of crap when the parents arent around) the video games should be taken away from them until they learn to play decently. Im not saying take away the video game beacuse they said F*** over the game or anything, but as soon as they start lashing out at people with obscene language, parents should just say screw you, youre not playing video games till you move out now.

Did I mention it was all due to bad parenting? Last two sentences lol. By the time I hit 16-18 I already knew where I was heading or rather where I wanted to go. If parents dont enforce on their kids on starting to decide on what the hell the kid should be doing in the future, simply put the kid is going to stray. Further more the parents should push the kid towards that. Im not saying push in the sense of load him on a cannon and put massive amounts of pressure on the kid till the kid cracks, but just nudges to keep him/her in line. I also realize some parents may just take for granted that the kid may believe that killing or shooting people is wrong, but they have to remember its the same kid that a couple years back probably ate a crayon or something.

So finally, its bad parenting that causes it, and I believe I might have just gone completely off topic lol, it just ticked me off. As to answer the question, Ive been playing fps for 10 years around now and I have never shot anyone, nor have I shot anyone in the face.

Mod<- you can delete or edit this post as you wish, as I may have gone off topic :/

[Fenix]

Interesting post Rhysticgon.

I'm sorry, but I disagree with you. Violence doesn't sort anything, not even when used to straighten out the kid.

From my experience, violence only feeds anger and makes the kid worse. The bad kids in my country are often from families that hit the child.

To be honest, if my parents started hitting me, I would get really angry and do worse stuff just to pay them back, even if it was because I did something wrong.

Apart from that, sorry to hear about your friend.
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[FaithZ]

Lol head shots are very common if you played Counter Strike.

Every head shot gives an instant kill with sniper guns.
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[Fenix]

[quosimos]

Both my mother and my father used to hit me and my brother with a cane when we were young (up till about 12 years old although it really tailed off after we got to 10 years) and I can say that it definitely did very little to change our behaviour. I guess I'm not the best son out there nor the worst either. It's the small things like finishing chores on time. My brother, now 15, is particularly disrespectful at times to my father.

Of course, my parent's stance on physical punishment is only one factor when it comes to parenting. On the whole, my parents are actually fairly lenient, especially for asian parents. When they went on a week long holiday two years ago they didn't mind my brother and I staying at home alone. They don't mind me going out and coming home past midnight but they do discourage me from making last minute the decision to crash at a friend's place. I'm 18 years old and they have a decent amount of trust in me. It should be okay as long as I tell them what's happening and when I'll be home. They let my brother drink a bit of alcohol at home where they can supervise him. Alcohol at parties is still an iffy thing but they know that there's really nothing much they can do about it except to advise him.

My mother puts pressure on my brother to do decently at school but she doesn't actually interfere. My brother has a good work ethic anyway and he goes to and I used to go to one of the top high schools. When my high school final exams came round my parents left everything to me. They didn't mind me studying the night before. It didn't matter though because I got into the university course I was aiming for (nothing special since the bar was several UAI points lower than the average of my school).

These days my parents punish us by restricting our access to the computer or the television. Or, in the case of my brother, taking away his bank card when they discovered money was rapidly disappearing from his account. They kept it for a few years and recently gave it back to him.

Once, I heard my mother talk to my father about hitting us. She was sceptical that it would have any effect on our behaviour especially since, by that time we had entered our teenage years. I don't think it had very much, if any effect on our behaviour. It is important that parents punish their children. Children need boundaries imposed on their behaviour and boundaries have to be enforced. But hitting is not the only form punishment available to parents. Neither is it the most effective form of punishment in my opinion and from my experience.

[thugangel]

If I were in danger and in need to protect myself or someone, and I somehow got a hold of a gun, my first target wouldn't automatically go towards the head. Instead, try to think of another way to immobilize the offender.

My way of thinking is probably like this because I go to church every Sunday, have read or seen stuff about heroes, and even I do know that in U.S. when you kill someone in order to protect yourself that you won't go to jail, the thought of "yeah, I've killed someone before" isn't something to brag about.

Another thing that got me the way I am is because I was disciplined well by my parents. They've slapped me, spanked me, and other punishments. This way I got trained to think before I act and I thank them for that. Verbal disciplinary doesn't always work and the result isn't beautiful either (i.e. parents and their kids cussing each other out). They will also be left with the impression of "I'll do whatever I want. What is my mom gonna do about it? Yell at me?" Remember that you're loved when you're spanked .

I didn't read Jack Thompson's article but it looks like he's trying to start a trend on what to look for from a modern violent person. Usually, scientists would look for the history of animal abusements or insect burnings, stuff like that, to determine if your'e a pyschopath.

[frozen_chicken]

Haedshots in CS was easy escpecially against noobs but in other games rarely, headshots in time crisis and virtua cop was easy too. Gunz is pretty hard to headshot imo.

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[Fenix]

I still strongly disagree Rhysticgon

I think it's just the different mentalities in our 2 nations. In my country you are not allowed to hurt kids, and if you do, the kid might be taken away from you. Of course the society wont take a kid from his/her parents for just a slap.

As I said, if you slap a kid, you make the kid feel inferior and the kid will learn that hitting others who do something you disagree with is ok.

Truth is, in my country we have made much research into this, and have proven that here (maybe not in your country, but in mine) the violent kids, who do illegal stuff, more than often comes from homes where physical punishment was used.

You should always remember as a parent that your kid will learn from the examples you make. If you hit him, he will hit others.

As for sending the kid away, parents should know that they are not doing the kid a favor by letting him stay at their house and feed him, they are obligated to do it. They took on the responsibility of raising a kid when they gave birth to one. If they can't handle it and threaten the kid with sending him away, they shouldn't have gotten a kid in the first place.
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