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Joined: Aug 09, 2006 Posts: 70 Location: El Monte, California (soon to be riverside.)
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 3:48 am Post subject:
WOWOW I JUST READ CHAP 67-69 WOW!!!! TOTALLY DIFFERENT FROM THE ANIME!!! i don't know whether i'm liking it or hating it but i'm totally shocked!!!! wowowowowowowowowowowoow!!! where is this going to go!?>?!?!?! omg!!!
Mariko blows up, Lucy questionably "dies", Kurama commits suicide and... nothing changes. Not only that, but now of the "good guys" only the assistant is left to deal with a problem that is well more than she can handle. If in the end there was going to be a new era of the Diclonius I would have preferred it to come with a Blast, just sweeping away it's oposition (Kurama & Co.), not making the all go emo.
Now all that is left is for Kouta to wrap up his issues with Lucy in whichever way that happens and then to wait for the brave new world; without Kurama's small faction it is only a matter of time before the director completes his plan, which was aparently too far underway to be stopped anyway. I doubt that the gentle Nana will be enough to prevent him from capturing Lucy and finish things up.
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those Kurama deserve it ... he lose everithing he loved and whose love him ... I hate a person who kill newborn baby for ANY reason
If that baby s going to become a senseless killer whose first victimes will be his parents I would have second thoughts about letting that child live. Yes, I'm serious. Also notice that at the time everyone thought that diclonious=death, the concept of a non-killing diclonious like Nana was inconceivable. How many people must die, because you let a single baby live? that was the dilemma in front of Kurama, and he chose to kill the offspring. It's not that he was happy about it or anything. It is pretty obvious that Kurama didn't take such decision lightly, and it wasn't easy for him to do it. He was thinking about the wellfare of everybody else. Personaly I think that Kurama was the second BEST character in the manga (Nana 1st!), and I thought he had more to accomplish. Oh well. _________________
... something that didn't take the account is that Nana didn't kill anyone yet and all person is already talking like Diclo is some kind of psycho ...
Yes I did.
leoxjm wrote:
Also notice that at the time everyone thought that diclonious=death, the concept of a non-killing diclonious like Nana was inconceivable.
Nana is still the exception over the rule. The experience with her wasn't enough to safely say "diclonious kids are ok". And you'd also have to consider timing. By the time Kurama started to off children she probably hadn't been in the institution too long. People were probably just waiting for her to go berserk. The fact that she didn't wasn't certainly established then.
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I make a bet that if Lucy and all other diclo is being raised normally atleast they won't kill their own parent ...
Lucy's case is the special one here. She was sent to an orphanage and bullied there, but that is not the case with other children. They lived with their parents and were taken by the Institution after murdering them. Innocent children? I think not! if you read back you'll see how they always say thet the first victims of the diclonuous are always their parents. and I can't emphasize enough. ALWAYS
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and yes, even the baby have a potential to be a sadistic murderer (70% in case of Diclonii) I still hope to raise it
70% is rather generous. Given how many diclonious children there must be out there and that Nana as so far been the ONLY exception, I'd say that the odds are more like 99%. Good luck surviving that! You'd have better odds of survival if you go swimming with great white sharks.
Now, I'm not saying "OMG! Diclonous baby! Kiill her!", and I think that proper education in a secure environment would be necessary to teach them that killing people (starting with their parents) is not good. I do think that if raised adequately there could be more Nana-like diclonious. Unfortunately in the "world" of the manga there is no such option. An adequate raising environment doesn't exist (the Institution is certainly not one), and letting them live with their parent seems to have always ended in massacre. Since it is either "let them roam free and be dangerous" or "kill them while you can", I understand perfactly why Kurama did what he did. _________________
A secure raising facility could be constructed, however. If the Diclonius powers only manifest around the time a child becomes capable of walking, which I seem to recall it does, the kid could grow up to a certain point in the company of its family, then be put in the facility as a kind of 'special school'. If, after several psychological tests, it was determined the child was no longer a serious threat, it could be released again. If it was determined that the child was and was going to continue to be a ticking timebomb, bent on mass slaughter ... Well, there are more humane ways to keep someone secured than the current institution.
If the right people as opposed to the wrong ones had gotten on the Diclonius situation when it started developing, things might be so very different.
As for Nana being unique, remember her sister? The one who infected Kurama with the Diclonius virus? I don't remember her actually attacking anyone before she was brutally tormented in the lab for an interminable time.
As for Nana being unique, remember her sister? The one who infected Kurama with the Diclonius virus? I don't remember her actually attacking anyone before she was brutally tormented in the lab for an interminable time.
Really? didn't she slaughter her way towards Kurama? I'll have to read that again.
Rock wrote:
A secure raising facility could be constructed, however.If the Diclonius powers only manifest around the time a child becomes capable of walking, which I seem to recall it does, the kid could grow up to a certain point in the company of its family, then be put in the facility as a kind of 'special school'. If, after several psychological tests, it was determined the child was no longer a serious threat, it could be released again. If it was determined that the child was and was going to continue to be a ticking timebomb, bent on mass slaughter ... Well, there are more humane ways to keep someone secured than the current institution.
True enough, but... by whom? the current Institution is ran by the government to conduct top secret research. Humanitarianism seems to be waaaay down in their list of priorities for Diclonious children. If word got out on horned children who are potential mass murderers, I have a hard time seeing some benefactor come and say "I'll take care of it". Even if there were, I can see the Government saying "well, this is our business and we already have a facility so GTFO". They'd probably claim to be taking care of this people, but the reality probably wouldn't change much. Also, I think it is possible that the research carried out at the institution could have said 'there are ways to make Nanas", but given the way the experiments were being carried out... well that wasn't gonna happen anytime soon. And then, even if it was demonstrated that there is a chance that a diclonious won't be a mass murderer, I really don't see the release thing happening. Why? the virus. The government woud desperately try to keep the virus from spreading, and since it would be the children who spread it, it is just too much of a liability. I doubt anybody would have planned to released the diclonii in the first place just for that reason alone. There are also practical reasons. The more diclonii out there, the more the virus spreads, the more children needing "special schools are born" and the system would be unable to keep up, collapsing unto itself and most likely ending in a bloodbath.
Also take into account that the Director's plans to spread the virus and all are HIS plans, not the Government's or even the Institution's. He is using the research facilities and his position for HIS own pursposes.
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If the right people as opposed to the wrong ones had gotten on the Diclonius situation when it started developing, things might be so very different.
probably, but the case of the diclonii is quite complicated. there is more to it than just "tehy are probaly born killers". People nowadays hate and kill each other over religion and skin color. Do you think that society will receive horned girls with invisible arms and violent tendecies warmly? I doubt so. _________________
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