The curse of long running mangas

AlDim · Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 12:45 am Post subject: The curse of long running mangas

I'm seriously pissed. For a third consecutive time I get obsessed with a great anime show that ends at some point midway in the manga, I follow up with the manga... and to my great disappointment it turns into utter trash in the later volumes.

About two years ago I finished watching the amazing Berserk series and since then I've had to witness how the manga turns into D&D, borrows ideas from all the wrong places, and exploits the best darn character of all time to a point when he gets boring. Not to mention the kindergarden that trails after him.
Then I watched GTO, followed up with the stunning continuation of the story in the manga... just to get to volume 20 when it just starts beating a dead horse by recycling already overused ideas.
And now I watched Hana Yori Dango, a show that proved to me how good shoujo soap can be... then I kept reading the manga and (surprise surprise) got to the point when it turns into cliched boring crap.

Now I don't know if this is a coincidence but it tells me that something's definitely wrong in the manga industry. At about the same point (Vol 15-20) a lot of mangas run out of juice but keep getting published anyway until they die a slow ugly death. On the other hand take Love Hina for example - it goes for 14 stunning volumes and ends wonderfully while it's still fresh. That's how things should be done.

Yebyosh · Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 1:29 am Post subject:

Well... money gets to the mangaka at times. They need a staple income, publisher offers them more money for the popular mangas and so they succumb.

Other times is when the mangaka could not remember his vision anymore. As such, his story meanders, trying to find back what he/she thought was a good idea at that time. Also the mangaka might have changed his ideal, the changes not being good ones.

I do agree, good mangas ( and shows and whatever series in whichever media ) are those that knows when to end it instead of dragging on and on. Unfortunately we would not know which are which unless we follow it till near the end ( of course, there are quite a few series where you would have to be blind or obsessed, to not to have spot that it has grown stale at some earlier point in time... )

idjota · Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 1:35 am Post subject:

a lot of manga is like that so i slowly loose interest in them and just stop reading them

but bleach (for now at least) is different, with ch 141 scanlated it still is very good and if you see the raws up to ch 155 the story gets better (not that i know how to read them Sad

) same with beck next volume is #20 and its still great
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truewt · Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 2:46 am Post subject:

we can see one classic example that many of the forum posters read- ichigo. ichigo is a very nice manga, but now the rapid and constant introduction of new girls is quite a stale idea, yet the mangaka continues to introduce new girls after every 30+ chapters... which is kinda boring, since the story still revolves around the same main girl characters. also, the plot of the male lead manaka being a sissy and wimp really piss ppl off, and his sissiness constantly bugs readers. however there is a recent twist when he finally found his balls in the toilet sink and made some advancements, or rather didn't back out in an encounter. but still his balls didn't grow during puberty and he seemingly wait for the girls to approach him.

well i guess this is what almost all shoujo ( or shonen i dunno which one) is all about - a male character who is a wimp Sad

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shankz · Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 7:46 am Post subject:

Take a look at Hajime no Ippo. 70 volumes and still going strong Very Happy

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atikiN · Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 11:13 am Post subject:

AlDim · Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 2:10 pm Post subject:

Guest · Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 6:15 pm Post subject:

yeah another example is One Piece 300+ chapters... first hundered ok then drags on.. and on. and on...

ephbuck · Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 6:56 pm Post subject:

sorry, that was me

atikiN · Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 7:57 pm Post subject:

Yebyosh · Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 9:02 pm Post subject:

Just a pre-emptive advice ( to set up the detour to prevent too many off-topic talk just in case ). The topic is on a general trend of mangas ( or any story ) getting extended and dragged on to a long death.

I think while series can be named along with a brief on how it is becoming as such, or not, going into the specifics of a series being such ( and the debates on the series itself ) should go into its own thread. Berserk does have its own Manga thread here.

AlDim · Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 11:37 pm Post subject:

Belial · newbie! Joined: Oct 14, 2004 Posts: 7

Detective Conan. 500 chapters and still going no where. Rolling Eyes

truewt · Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 5:15 pm Post subject:

yea conan's rather boring...

still no change to his adult form, no romance.. nothing!
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