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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rick_battosai wrote:
i have a question on this series.

ive been seeing PIZZA HUT.

whats the relation?

is Pizza Hut sponsering them or something.


Sloww.... there you go, you answered your own question. Why else would it be there?

Ep 6 was funny, with the wild cat hunt in which we did have a big winner: Suzaku

It was fun to see karen and shirley team up to get the cat. Luckily for Lelouch they got awkward talking about him and let their quarry escape. I was a good, fun episode.


I still think that this series will be at least 26 episodes, though. EP 6 was pretty much a filler. How many fillers can you have in a 13 ep series? not many, I'd say. Ep 5 was relatively slow too, it pretty much just introduced Cornelia and Euphemia. I really think that Zero has to cause the hell of a lot more mischief before the end, and I don't think it can do it if roughly half the series is already done. I think that the characters of Todo and Lied haven;t been used up quite yet and would eventually become more prominent, otherwise, why introduce them at all? Same with the whole school thing. they could well have had a "and Lelouch is Student" thing in the background but not stress on it as much as they have now. If it is 13 episodes, CG is going to have to do some tricks to end in a satisfactory manner.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's 26 episodes...Or at least it should be, since it's going at this pace. Having a mainly serious theme about nationalism and vengeance or whatnot (depends on how one sees it) and adding in humorous bits C.C and cat PWNing Lelouch. Laughing to spice things up a bit, and judging from episode 7 information (Won't say anything about it, not even using spoilers Razz ), the series ought to drag on a little longer than 13 episodes.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

26 eps or longer, it is still hard for me to see that episode 6 was a filler. You were introduced or shown more info about some new characters. But this ep also shows how close Lelouch and Suzaku were and shows a little of their history. It also shows the tensity of having an Eleven go to a Britanian school. It tells why he's going to that school. It shows a little bit of the princess's side and what's happening to Jeremiah. It tells us about the scientists and the location of the special mech. It shows us how Lelouch hides his mask and how far he'd be willing to go in order to protect his identity. And there's a bunch more that I see important for this anime.

The story may have gone slow because there's no action and instead it was rather comical, but I wouldn't consider this to be a filler. This comical chapter should be a pretty big deal for Lelouch. Also, they stuck to the main story instead of straying off (which is what a filler is). Correct me if my definition of filler is wrong... Actually, I see these characters coming closer together and how there's gonna be more trouble for Lelouch.

BTW, declaring who the winner is from the main event is a spoiler Razz.
I'm kinda of surprised that nobody from the event became curious as to how Suzaku knew Nanali's name when she kissed him and Lelouch and yelled out her name. .
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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26 eps or longer, it is still hard for me to see that episode 6 was a filler. You were introduced or shown more info about some new characters. But this ep also shows how close Lelouch and Suzaku were and shows a little of their history. It also shows the tensity of having an Eleven go to a Britanian school. It tells why he's going to that school. It shows a little bit of the princess's side and what's happening to Jeremiah. It tells us about the scientists and the location of the special mech. It shows us how Lelouch hides his mask and how far he'd be willing to go in order to protect his identity. And there's a bunch more that I see important for this anime.


Those are some minor details in comparison to the plot as a whole. Furthermore, the main event of the episode was The madcap chase for the cat and the reward for a kiss. God damned...It really reminds me of Tokimeki Memorial. It may not be entirely a filler episode, but the crux of it remains just that, mainly because it also doesn't really stick with the serious theme on a whole. I'm thinking that they're going to make another transition from humor to seriousness again.


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BTW, declaring who the winner is from the main event is a spoiler Razz.
I'm kinda of surprised that nobody from the event became curious as to how Suzaku knew Nanali's name when she kissed him and Lelouch and yelled out her name. .


It isn't really that much of a surprise anymore, considering that
(1) The rest of the Britannian students were more or less surprised (or afraid, in Nina's case) of Suzaku to bother about that.

(2) Heck, Lelouch already said that Suzaku was his friend, and the latter even saved his ass.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZGMF-00X wrote:
Those are some minor details in comparison to the plot as a whole. Furthermore, the main event of the episode was The madcap chase for the cat and the reward for a kiss.

Can you even compare "minor details" to the plot as a whole? I mean, the way I see it, those "minor details" are essentially part of the plot. Are you saying that it would be completely fine if you take these "minor details" out from the story?
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It may not be entirely a filler episode, but the crux of it remains just that, mainly because it also doesn't really stick with the serious theme on a whole. I'm thinking that they're going to make another transition from humor to seriousness again.

So you're saying that the crux of it (crucial part of it) is a filler mainly because it's not sticking to the seriousness of the story... Is there some kind of rule that if your story started in serious state and then if you put some humorous element in it that it would be considered as a filler? At least that's the impression I'm getting from your post. I've also stated that this "filler" should be a pretty big deal for Lelouch. It's an important experience for him about being much more careful in the future. He got off lucky this time. Or is that kind of implementation not important at all?

Ah, then I should rephrase my statement... I'm wondering as to why none of the students have a shocking look when the three showed their closeness-ness. Someone ought to be more curious about Lelouch's secret/history... Not to mention the days they've spent together in school they never made a contact with each other at all. You've seen ep 7, right? Was there someone, maybe the president of the club, digging through to find out about Lelouch's past?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thugangel wrote:
So you're saying that the crux of it (crucial part of it) is a filler mainly because it's not sticking to the seriousness of the story... Is there some kind of rule that if your story started in serious state and then if you put some humorous element in it that it would be considered as a filler?

I'd say that the short answer would be "no". The thing is, what developments really happened in this episode? It is pretty much about Suzaku settling down in school. almost 0 rebellion (except for a short scene with Cornelia), no Zero aside from a short phone talk. Nobody got evena step closer to their goal; they don't even try in the episode. The crux of it is "fun and games", very welcome and appreciated. I don't think I would have traded this episode for someting more plot-relevant. Lelouch didn't really learn to be "more careful, he was being careful when the mask was taken by chance in a very unlikely manner. I doubt he was thinking
"Gee, I have to hide my mask in a cat-proof spot"
Aside from helping Suzaku at school, this little incident didn't have too much significance.

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I mean, the way I see it, those "minor details" are essentially part of the plot.

The way Code Geass is now, they are certainly part of the plot. That's why i said that I think it will run longer than 13 episodes. For the overarching storyline they are relatively unimportant. IF you were to pack this series into a smaller package, I think this is the kind of stuff that would get cut out and adressed by passing when necessary, maybe mentioned in some dialogue later or something. I, for one, am glad they're there.
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Ah, then I should rephrase my statement... I'm wondering as to why none of the students have a shocking look when the three showed their closeness-ness. Someone ought to be more curious about Lelouch's secret/history... Not to mention the days they've spent together in school they never made a contact with each other at all. You've seen ep 7, right? Was there someone, maybe the president of the club, digging through to find out about Lelouch's past?

I also thought it was odd, but overlooked it thinking that maybe everyone was too focused on "wow, lelouch almost died and the 11.. err... honored britanian saved him", "damn, this dude beat me to the cat!" and"woot! Student council make-out time!". I don't recall Nanally saying their names, so I doubt the people at the spot would. Maybe they'll find their friendship odd in restrospect, but at the moment there was just too much going on
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

leoxjm wrote:
I think the series is likely to go 26 episodes at least, although maybe it will be 50. 13 would be too rushed and abrupt an ending. I like the pacing for now and moving afaster may end up rushing things without need. It also doesn't look like over 1/3rd of the series is already done.

I really hope the romance gets solved. I think that there is too much potential to just be left hanging. Besides, Shirley's misunderstanding of Lelouch and Karen should lead somewhere, I think. I think that it doesn't quite cut it as comic relief (although it IS funny). Maybe they'll develop it as the series progresses.

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Karen, C.C, Alice,(Potential King Lelouch's Queen Wannabe)
Euphemia, Professor Megane's Assitant, Cornelia.
Wow Harem... ^^

Who's Alice? you mean Millais?

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Someone start Code Geas Beauty Contest~!!

Agreed. Maybe we should start getting screenshots or something!

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I thought Cornelia was pretty hot...

I thought so too. CLAMP really did a good job an this one.

Sorry I got mixed up with other anime, I mean Shirley not Alice...
And speaking of Cornelia... i got a feeling she is the next royal blood that gonna suffer the wrath of Lelouch. Perhaps even perish like Clovis...

Ep6 definitely looks like a filler with only a minor connections to the main plot. Finally we see the Final Boss, or rather Lelouch's Father and how CC reactions towards the TV news about him. Is amusing how a mastermind and serious guy like Lelouch would be force to run around campus by a cat. Well a very amusing side story which give somehow give me the impression that Shirley is DEFINITELY interested in Lelouch! A little screen time of the past about Nanali wrap in bandages on the Emergency Room seems to tell how Nanali ends up being blind and half paralayze.

Jeremiah really pawned real good. Poor guy... well he won't be a problem in the mean time I think...

Is really funny to see Lelouch's reaction when he saw the cat wearing his mask. I mean... the sound he makes "Wargh~!?" is just so funny added with his impression...[img:640:448:39aad390a5]http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/1387/shockkr0.jpg[/img:39aad390a5]


Hmm... is it me or the girls is getting cuter? Perhaps more screen time, ehehehehe...
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yuun wrote:
And speaking of Cornelia... i got a feeling she is the next royal blood that gonna suffer the wrath of Lelouch. Perhaps even perish like Clovis...


Regarding that...Just a minor spoiler.
The answer is No. Lelouch almost had his ass handed to him directly. Watch the next one for more details. Razz

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Hmm... is it me or the girls is getting cuter? Perhaps more screen time, ehehehehe...


Perhaps they are. Well, For one thing, I certainly don't mind giving them a few more glances. Wink

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Can you even compare "minor details" to the plot as a whole? I mean, the way I see it, those "minor details" are essentially part of the plot. Are you saying that it would be completely fine if you take these "minor details" out from the story?


Why, yes. It's absolutely logical and fine to take it out. The only thing is, we'll be treated to less fun from Code Geass. This episode was perhaps meant for the viewers (or even the characters) to take a breather from all that Zero, rebellion and all that Purist crap going on within Britannia itself.

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So you're saying that the crux of it (crucial part of it) is a filler mainly because it's not sticking to the seriousness of the story... Is there some kind of rule that if your story started in serious state and then if you put some humorous element in it that it would be considered as a filler?


It isn't a rule, and I don't stick to rules anyway. It's a general impression. To put it across in a more tangible manner, let me ask you one question: Which of these received more screentime, the matter with Zero and the rebellion as well as part of Lelouch's past (the King), or the chase of insanity for a masked feline and a coveted kiss, as well as the supposed integration of Suzaku into the school? The fact that there is more screentime on the other simply means that it's shown to be the main theme of the episode alone. Yes, the King speaks at the end of the episode, and we see some interesting reactions from both Lelouch and Suzaku. So what? It's a build-up to the next episode. Simple as that.

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I've also stated that this "filler" should be a pretty big deal for Lelouch. It's an important experience for him about being much more careful in the future. He got off lucky this time. Or is that kind of implementation not important at all?


It's a 'moral of the story' issue, if that's what you wish to bring up. That doesn't necessarily need to be part of the main plot. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Technically, the chase was about 1/2 to 1/3 of the entire episode. And I mentioned 1/3 because Suzaku's integration to the school is part of the main plot which would play a big part later in the future. Suzaku's introduction of acceptance in the club, as well as the school, wouldn't have happened without this chase. Well... there are many ways of getting it to the final result [of the episode] but the chase was the way the creator or head director has chosen. Still, Suzaku being part of the school now is part of the main story and not just for fun.

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thugangel wrote:
Can you even compare "minor details" to the plot as a whole? I mean, the way I see it, those "minor details" are essentially part of the plot. Are you saying that it would be completely fine if you take these "minor details" out from the story?

Why, yes. It's absolutely logical and fine to take it out. The only thing is, we'll be treated to less fun from Code Geass. This episode was perhaps meant for the viewers (or even the characters) to take a breather from all that Zero, rebellion and all that Purist crap going on within Britannia itself.

I'm not sure whether if you've forgotten what the "minor details" you stated as is or if you were just talking about the "filler." The latter would seem to fit the best as the series would be "less fun" if taken out while the former is saying that it is "absolutly logical and fine to take out" the "minor details" which consists about the 1/2 to 2/3 of the screen time that I was talking about which wouldn't make sense at all. Nonetheless, from these conversations, I'm finally beginning to see how you guys have came up to conclusion that episode 6 is a filler, or partly. Smile
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geez.. a better term for ep 6 would be a "supporting episode"..

true the term 'filler' can be used to describe such, but more use of that word comes to mind when describing stuff that are just added as 'extenders' that have little to do with the main plot. and i think ep6 is technically part of THE story as it in more than one way supports the story..

i just hope u guys arent thinking that CG would be ACTION>ACTION>ACTION all the way thru.. and that if it begins with action, the middle will be action and the end should be action.. and if an episode isnt any of those three then its considered as a "filler" - that frame of mind is retarded imo.

most i consider as fillers have been more action oriented.. its like mindless eyecandy with no main story or plot progression(typically narutoes and blech fillers). ep6 of CG is needed/required, they give a bit of character development for a lot of characters, and show what changes that are or have happened since zero has arrived in the scene.
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thugangel wrote:
Technically, the chase was about 1/2 to 1/3 of the entire episode. And I mentioned 1/3 because Suzaku's integration to the school is part of the main plot which would play a big part later in the future.


What took most of the attention in the episode itself? Perhaps that should be the way I phrased it. Filler might be a wrong word. Suzaku's integration into the school is all and well, but I still believe we could have done without it. The only thing is, we'll be missing out on the fun (of the chase) and details (on how Suzaku might finally get integrated well into the school itself).

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I'm not sure whether if you've forgotten what the "minor details" you stated as is or if you were just talking about the "filler."


The main issue about episode 6 is the integration of Suzaku into the school, or so I assume. What about the others? Are the part of the main issue? I'd say they contribute to advancement of the plot, but nevertheless, they did not take centrestage (Cornelia's weeding out of Zero, the rebel leader calling Lelouch, The King talking about 'something' at the start). As I see it, the chase probably isn't the only thing that consists of the main theme; it's Suzaku's integration that takes centerstage.

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The latter would seem to fit the best as the series would be "less fun" if taken out while the former is saying that it is "absolutly logical and fine to take out" the "minor details" which consists about the 1/2 to 2/3 of the screen time that I was talking about which wouldn't make sense at all.


Put it this way: You could have something else steal the mask, or simply by a twist of fate, it gets lost. It wasn't entirely necessary to make it into Lelouch getting pwned by a cat and having the student council president turning the whole place into an asylum full of people wanting kisses and the ability to blackmail other people if possible.

Sometimes its just so hard to make people understand....When I say 'minor', it's in reference to the episode itself, not the entirety of the plot. Maybe I should have rephrased it properly. I'll admit 'filler' is a wrong word, but the entire episode consists of both elements of the plot as well as the former.

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Nonetheless, from these conversations, I'm finally beginning to see how you guys have came up to conclusion that episode 6 is a filler, or partly. Smile


It's a general POV, so don't mind us. CG took me by surprise with this episode, mixing in the more serious elements and 'filler-ish' elements together flawlessly.
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Are there any English .avi releases of Code Geass? I can't find any.
First I accidently downloaded an episode subbed in Italian and then I downloaded an mkv file which I can't play.
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Are there any English .avi releases of Code Geass? I can't find any.

Not in AVI, only in MKV done by gg fansubs. Go to the Search torrents page. search for "code"... or "geass"... or "code geass" and you'll get what you want. Alternatively, you can also check out gg fansubs homepage at http://www.ggkthx.org/ Make sure you have the right codecs to play MKV files. Check out the Tech Area forum for links to codecs and whatnot. I think they're stickied.

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geez.. a better term for ep 6 would be a "supporting episode"..


Agreed. But that wouldn't have given us such a great discussion/rantfest. I like this thread! Very Happy
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uwah... its a good thing i wasn't too lazy to pick up a new series.. this could have gone right past me if it werent' for leo and his MS paint thing.. Very Happy

watched all six eps today... very very very good series...

kinda interesting how the protagonist is portrayed.. usually with other series that i ahve watched its his character that is the antagonist... but heck it fits well with the story.. Very Happy

so yeah.. good stuff.. good stuff indeed.. Very Happy
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uwah... its a good thing i wasn't too lazy to pick up a new series.. this could have gone right past me if it werent' for leo and his MS paint thing.. Very Happy


LOL... I guess I'm even more happy I made that thing now. Glad you're enjoying yourself, Xrys!
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