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Which would you pilot in a fight against all the others?
Zegapains (Zegapain)
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Mobile Suits (Gundam)
36%
 36%  [ 4 ]
Guymelefs (Escaflowne)
9%
 9%  [ 1 ]
LFOs (Eureka Seven)
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Arm Slaves (Full Metal Panic)
9%
 9%  [ 1 ]
PSP's (The Third)
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Personal Troopers (Super Robot Wars)
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
ZOIDS (ZOIDS)
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Evangelions (Neon Genesis Evangelion)
27%
 27%  [ 3 ]
Other (Specify Anime Too!!!)
18%
 18%  [ 2 ]
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:09 pm    Post subject: Which mecha would h4x0r pWn WTFBBQ!!!!!!11 Reply with quote

Alright so the topic is pretty simple, which one do you think would win, or you'd rather have and give an explaination too. DEBATES ARE ON!!!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wrong section... Moving to Anime General.

For sentimantal reasons I won't redirect to the open Mecha discussion thread, so this one will remain open.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like I've said in the other thread, the Gundam will pwn all... Kira is overpowered with his Stike Freedom.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no way...evangelions would own a gundam anyway...AT fields make nukes useless man, there's no way kira can beat an opponent that has that kinda power, or zegapains with the layered QL, attacks won't get through force fields, same with Arms Slaves with the lambda drive...
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EVAs i guess... initiate impact and we reset the whole world... Confused

yep.. we're screwed... Confused
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow... sadly I've never watched NGE yet...
But I dunno man... seems like the shield is able to penetrate force shields though...
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I vote for the mobile suits in Gundam (not the gundam, just the MS).

The gundams are overpower and the normal MS gives a more realistic feeling.

[img:180:216:0a1a1371a3]http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/c/cb/180px-MS-06F.GIF[/img:0a1a1371a3]
The zaku from the original MS Gundam. I think this one is a ground type. Common mass produced MS used by low ranked pilots.

[img:180:216:0a1a1371a3]http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/6/67/180px-MS-07B3.gif[/img:0a1a1371a3]

The GOUF custom is a fast and powerful MS. Very light. Uses a Gatling gun that is detachable, a small machine gun on its left arm, a wire use for disabling anything or ripping things out and a sick looking sword.

I will admit, its hard to compare mechas from different series. One uses nuclear, another flies in space, one is more modern, another is something of a power ranger zord, etc.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha first of all in accordance to the original gundam, it was the zaku type 2 thats for ground combat; type 1 was for space and histroically zeon lost. the gouf is fast but it isn't very stable (overhyped engines) and so it was never mass produced.

It can go a lot of ways, like for example, compare hitomi + escaflowne and control fate, or NGE's with AT fields and yes instigate 3rd impact...or Lambda fields and break natural laws of science, or argue gundams are faster and better at melee. Set the conditions and ROBATTLE!!!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Angel_Armz wrote:
[img:180:216:94e60b9523]http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/6/67/180px-MS-07B3.gif[/img:94e60b9523]

The GOUF custom is a fast and powerful MS. Very light. Uses a Gatling gun that is detachable, a small machine gun on its left arm, a wire use for disabling anything or ripping things out and a sick looking sword.


I'd pilot a Gouf Custom not only because it is powerful, but because it looks badass.

Still, Evas lose to Gundams (Hell, even to grunt Zakus) if the pilot uses his brain a bit. Evas have a powerful constraint: energy use. They need to be plugged to a wire to get power, their battery life is a minute. If anybody cuts off the cable and dodges the evas atack for long nough he can just wait until it powers down and then just blast it to oblivion. Evas cannot deply at fields or even move without power, so they are screwed.

If people come with "but eva01...", you're wrong. Eva 01 managed to do what it did after a certain stage, in which it synchronized with its pilot to a near-impossible level. Even under extreme circumstances an EVA would not be able to do that again.

BTW, the Fafner MK Nicht would probably own anybody.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ohh but in actuality, a eva can go for 5 minutes at battery life and if it carries a N2 mine payload then it can destroy a lot of mobile suits, or if it carries the lance of longinus, or if it successfully combines with a S2 engine
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah thx for clearing some things up fission.

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the gouf is fast but it isn't very stable (overhyped engines) and so it was never mass produced.


I'm talking about the Gouf Custom. The custom is meant for urban combat where its light way can give it a good running speed. The custom is only given to ACE pilots that prefer speed over power.

Well I'll start the gouf vs. so and so.

Against a eva, I'm sure the Gouf will win. Well Leo already pointed out some stuff. In an urban setting, I'm sure the evas and Goufs can go the same speed, only with the evas cabel limits. The Gouf can easily cut off the cabel with its sword.

Well sorry I don't know much about evas. Only a bit.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ohh but in actuality, a eva can go for 5 minutes at battery life

Fine. Dodge 5 minutes.
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if it carries a N2 mine payload then it can destroy a lot of mobile suits,

So can an old WWII bomber plane if it carries a nuke.
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or if it successfully combines with a S2 engine

Evas have failsafes to prevent that from happening, that's what I meant by the "but eva 01"... part of my post.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you made that difficult to interperet because when Shinji was assimilated, the eva 01 moved, even before the eva 01 assimulated the S2 engine...I'm talking about the unit 06 (or 05, the one where the guy lost his arm)

difference between a bomber and a eva is that an eva has greater mobility

eva's don't need to dodge, their at fields protect them from enemy fire, enemies also have ammo restraints

eva's can use rifles and other melee weapons, other powerful rifles like the positronic rifle used against...the something angel (near beginning)

edit: well...how about a gundam vs. arms slave with lambda drive capababilities (taking into account the pilot is competent in using lambda drives...)
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fission2 wrote:
you made that difficult to interperet because when Shinji was assimilated, the eva 01 moved, even before the eva 01 assimulated the S2 engine...I'm talking about the unit 06 (or 05, the one where the guy lost his arm)


Guy lost his arm....? Aside from Gendou nobody lost just an arm in Eva, as far as I remember... and Gendo wasn't in an eva. Anyway, I didnt count the automated mass-produced evas because by the first post I though you implied that the Mecha had to be manned. And yeah, Eva 01 indeed moved before having a s2 engine, but I thought that it moved because Shinji was assimilated into it, or at the very lest was in the process of being assimilated.

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difference between a bomber and a eva is that an eva has greater mobility


Exactly my point. Anything can destroy a large number of enemies if it carries sufficient firepower or a big bomb, so "if it carries an N2 bomb" is not a good argument to put forward in favor of an Eva. In SEED the worthless mobile armors carried nukes too and could have destroyed large numbers of any kind of mech with one successful hit, but nobody would say that one of those was better than a mobile suit.

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eva's don't need to dodge, their at fields protect them from enemy fire, enemies also have ammo restraints

Uhh... yeah... nobody argues against that. I meant if anyone cuts an eva's power supply, that "anyone" has to dodge the eva for 5 minutes. after that the Eva wouldn't be able to move or put up an at field, rendering it helpless.

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eva's can use rifles and other melee weapons, other powerful rifles like the positronic rifle used against...the something angel (near beginning)

Indeed. Evas are versatile.

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edit: well...how about a gundam vs. arms slave with lambda drive capababilities (taking into account the pilot is competent in using lambda drives...)


That's difficult. This would probably be a battle of attrition... depending on the gundam. Gundams would (probably) have superior mobility, but the Lambda drive gives the AS near-perfect defense and powerful attacks at close range. if the Gundam can outlast the AS' operation time, it has won, but this would actually be a hell of a battle.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why isnt there Vandread??
i would say Evangelion ^__^ though i like Gundam.
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