Theory on love and marriage

[spankit]

i think some of the views here are kinda based on the fact that
they are religious.

personally i agree with kaiser, marriage means nothing if the basis
of it isn't even there. i think that IN THEORY yes marriage is the
willingness to love your partner til death do you part and such. but
in a more modern society to many people it means nothing. people do
stupid things such as getting married in vegas etc. marriage itself i
don't think holds much power. its being committed, which is something
a certificate and 2 rings can't bring. if you truly love a person whether
your married or not shouldn't matter.

as with the homosexual views, maybe its cause i'm agnostic, but if
you love someone it really shouldn't matter. who are you to say that
just because they are of the same sex, a relationship and love can't
happen? whether they're like that biologically or not you have no right
to say anything about how they feel as everyone has a right to love.

as for being against natural order, sure. but what about those
heterosexual couples that do have children and end up abusing/abandoning
them? does that make them suitable parents either? you can't determine
a person's parental instincts based on their sex. in all things there are
exceptions and so i don't think your views should be so strictly biased
as nothing is indefinitely wrong, as nothing is indefinitely right.
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[kflute]

I'm not sure I agree exactly with the original post, but the basic gist of it, definitely. I would not say, for instance, that love is living and dying for another person, but that it is a commitment to put their needs about one's own needs. In so many places our world has taken the comittment out of of love, and has, as someone else said, made divorce an option/ a normal choice. I'm a firm believer in the idea that if you're going to bother getting married, you ought to know what you're promising to do and take it seriously.

I think many people get married because it is the social norm, not because they believe they should find one person and commit to them, which I think is a big part of the divorce problem. I'm not a big fan of just living together either because I think a formal declaration of the promise you've made to stick with someone is good for you mentally, but I think a lot of people would be served by living as friends/courting/dating whatever before they get married.

And, yes, many are probably like me and their views are influenced by their religion, depending on what sense you use the word in. I am coming from a fundamentalist evangelical Christian point of view (heck, I'm a missionary) so what I think has been influenced by that. However, to me, that point of view rationally makes sense in many ways--especially in the area of marriage. If wives and husbands truly submitted themselves to each other, being partners that hold each other up through all of lives hardships as is laid out in the Bible and took the commitment seriously before getting into it, we'd probably have a lot less family problems. Of course, there are a million and one ways of straying from the original texts that have come about over the past several centuries, but I attempt to go by the book. If anyone has a problem with my Biblical interpretation, let me know and I'll attempt to either fix my knowledge or defend myself.

(note: Marriage in my definition is male+female, anything else goes in a different forum topic, and while I know this is offensive to some, when did Americans ever become so afraid of offending someone they won't speak their minds about things?)
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[ultimasome]

Love can be harmful and many people dont understand what the right way to explain what love is and most people get the wrong idea
but marriage is something that bounds two into one
people think if they didnt love each other before marrying then their life as husband and wife isnt much than giving births and such things
but that's wrong love before marriage is nothing more than fake (sorry but that's my opinion) cause many of them ends with breaking their hearts or maybe harming both
the true love is when a man marry someone he loves not having her as a gf in order to see if she's worthy or not
well both love and marriage have the same affect
is breaking up more harmful than divorse?
i dont understand why people fair getting married?
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[ThaMahin]

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[Jocoolforever]

Love is a word we use to descibe a feeling or emotion we have towards another person. Marriage is a form of symbolism we use to show that we mean what we feel. i do not think that marriage is "proving" that you love someone so much as showing them that you do but i suppose some or maybe alot of people do see it that way. same sex marriage is not my thing at all, but who am i a small useless speck of sand in the universe to tell another speck that they are "wrong". if its your thing go ahead and do it but please leave me out of it. well those are my thought enjoy -peace out

[CClark777]

Love in marage is getting rarer and rarer now in days. Its mostly for lust that people get married anymore not love. but some people do marry for love, true love and thoughes are the ones that will stay together.

Jo>>> One speck told another speck to push a butten. The speck did as it was told. Tens of thousands died that day. Just becouse your a speck in the universe dosen't make you any less important than a planet. Its what you do that makes you a speck or not.

[sorophose]

Well my thoughts on love is that it is the willingness to be with some one, something and not wanting to be seperated from them/ it. Of course love doesn't have to be related to only people, I think that people can trully love an object, that is not to say thinking of it as a person, but in not wanting to be seperated from it. This Kind of love between people and objects has to do with the memories shared with the said object, you then become willing to do crazy things because of the memories of happiness relating to an object. The same can be said for loving a pet, but the difference between objects and pets is that the pets are capable of loving back but on a lower scale than humans do for each other.

on the case of Gays and Lesbians I really don't care if its not possible for them to have children I just think of all the stupid ignorant people that piss me of and am glad that there will be less people like them. I actually think its a good idea to let homos adopt beacause I think of all the children that straight people have thrown away, at least they will get to have some kind of influence in their life.

On love in Marage I think its become a problem in the way people think about it.Beign in love doesn't mean that you have to get married because marrige is a sacrement for the religious, but to me Marage is letting other people that you love someone a lot. Marage is fine and all but the way people think about it is that you have to get married and it is set as a goal, when people set goals they get really excitted about it but once you finish a goal your happy and everythings great then it gets like "ok, now what ?" "lets have some kids". Now when you set having kids as a goal its the same thing, your happy at first then you realize "I'm going to have to deal with this for a couple of decades". Also the fact that some Marages are an effect, and not a cause, of pregnency it sad to see that a marage is because of a mistake, and knowing that it most marages have a high rate of ending in divorce.

I don't know why living together, unmarried, is a sin but it seems the logical thing to test your relationship this way before making a big commitment.

"Everyone wants to be loved, but many don't try to make it possible" -someguy

[forgetwillnot]

[LeTensai]

[forgetwillnot]

No more religion pls..
Im getting sick and tired of debating @_@

@Ultimasome
I wish that you would taste some of that
bitter cracker that you are so fond of releasing
just for you to experience how bitter your words are....

[KaRei]

More and more divorces. I was thinking why it is going this way. Did love disappear? Or what has changed from old times? I think that in old times when two loved each other they didn't wait that long as they do now and they married. Divorces were difficult and it made them rather pass the problems they had in marriage than break up. They were already married and divorce wasn't so easy. After some time they forgot and forgived. In the end, the girl didn't know too many other guys and the guy didn't know too many other girls (now I mean that they didn't know them in closer relations).

Comparing it with these days I see that people are waiting with marriage. When a problem comes in their relation, it isn't hard for them to break up. Nothing is forcing them to stay together. After this they will find somebody else. And if it fails again then they'll find again somebody else. People have more and more relations before they marry. They are finding out that there isn't just the one they love, but that there are many other different people. And they are finding out that if there is some mistake on their gf/bf, somebody else can be without this mistake. They are making more and more their idealized picture of their partner and they are searching for him/her. They are ok with bf/gf until they find some mistake on him/her. And then they'll break up and will try to search for somebody without this mistake.

If you'll take two young people, boy and girl that would love each other, if it would be first love for both of them and if you won't show them that there can be somebody else, I think that they'll be happy and that they won't divorce. They'll pass the problems because they wouldn't know that there can be somebody without the mistakes they see on their partner.

I think that love didn't change and we love our partner still in same way as generations before was doing it. But we are more searching for an ideal partner and we are forgetting that nobody is ideal, that everybody has mistakes.
Because we have more and more bf/gf before we marry, our partner isn't more for us the only one that can exist. We know more people. And we know that we can love somebody else. That's why we don't see problem in breaking up and divorces. Because more bf/gf we have before we marry, the more is deep in our mind a thought that if it won't work, we can break up, because we will find somebody else we'll love.

In earlier times they married when they loved each other and wasn't waiting for break up and wasn't trying to search for somebody else. Thus their partner was for them the only one they ever loved and it was impossible for them to imagine that they would be able to love somebody else.
But in modern times, with each new relation and each break up we are just making sure for ourselves that we'll know that our partner isn't the only one we could love. And thus we are creating an area for divorcess.
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Love is that universal emotion that binds all race of man-kind Im not talking about your favorite show or food but that pure raw emotions you feel when spot that special someone and feel a little tingle in your chest.
That goes for men too even though most of us dont really want to openly say this kind of things to protect our manhood but we think about it sometimes.

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[redcap]

I don't think it's something you can explain in words. Many people try to, but there's so much to it that it's impossible to analyze it 100%.

About marriage, people especially in this country should chill. They get all lustful and get married and things go wrong then there's divorce. US has the highest divorce rate in the world. There's a lot of problems. People really should think more.

[indi]

There are three rings in marriage...First is the proposal ring, second is the wedding ring, last but not least the third ring...the suffering.
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