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Pantagruel
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Before the speculation really gets out of hand people should just watch like a good kid for a bit. (You're all crazy Twisted Evil )
The story is really going to start to pick up next episode. (EP5)
Four episodes covered three volumes of manga already.
I hope they don't result to fillers.
Like going to some carnival with roller coasters.
Or a beach episode where they all play beach volleyball and eat watermelon.
And play tom toms under an eerie moon.
Stop making me use this face: Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I hope they don't result to fillers.
Like going to some carnival with roller coasters.
Or a beach episode where they all play beach volleyball and eat watermelon.
And play tom toms under an eerie moon.


Ok, now that you mention it, a part of me suddenly wants to see Claire in a bikini playing beach volleyball with a bunch of other claymores in bikinis. The watermelon would be a nice touch as well. Very wrong I admit, but oh so tempting. And the idea of little brother playing with pom-poms sounds just sick and wrong, but oh so funny. Cool
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd think you'd have to hold on to the bikini bit. There is something about their bodies (frist hinted with Clare and now Theresa) that they have not told us about. Anybody want to take a guess? I was thinking scar but I think the guys who threw up, his reaction was a bit over if it's just a scar (he is a bandit, he has seen scars before... )

Ep 5:

I wathced the raw fisrt and I went, no could not be (Clare's eyes and hair is a different colour though her face features are generally the same) but after watching the release from Eclipse I'm sure they went back in time and that we are seeing little Clare.

I'm guessing that makes Theresa her mentor. Which make me wonder if they ever age? The Theresa from the OP (present?) does not look a day older then her past self.

Also the process of becoming a claymore would indicate that not only do the eyes change colur but so does the hair.

It was painful to see Clare in that state.

Overall this is a good episode. Good background info on Clare and Theresa is an interesting character.

It also looks like Theresa is the most powerful claymore.


Looking forward to the next episode.

Edit:
Has anyone noticed that the ED in ep 5 has changed a bit?
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

More info on aging and "awakening" will be told in later episodes. Yeah, I'm guessing that the youma parts disfigure their bodies wherever it was inserted.You're right, Theressa is the number one Claymore during that time period.
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

woah, i totally didn't even realise that they were showing the past...even though it seems so obvious now.

I just assumed they were showing the story of another claymore for some reason...

In fact, how are we sure that it is the past? despite the fact that there was some girl that got picked up who was named Clare, couldn't it be that Theresa named this little girl after claymore Clare? Was there any caption that stated that this episode was about Clares past?

This episode being about Clare's past fits perfectly, but i just assumed, when Theresa as naming the girl Clare and talking about the whole naming convention thing, that she was naming the girl after claymore Clare because who is her real sister.
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 4:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In fact, how are we sure that it is the past?


Well aside from the manga readers who have been posting their subtle hints about teresa's background(which is rather irksome), if you compare child clare's eye's with adult clare's eyes it seems like they have the same unique shape; though of course different color.
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marting_G wrote:
clare's eye's with adult clare's eyes


Yeh, thats true...I guess i put that down to lack of diversity in the number of different shapes of eyes they could use.

But yeh, if manga readers have already posted hints then those no denying it.
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nef wrote:
woah, i totally didn't even realise that they were showing the past...even though it seems so obvious now.

I just assumed they were showing the story of another claymore for some reason...

In fact, how are we sure that it is the past? despite the fact that there was some girl that got picked up who was named Clare, couldn't it be that Theresa named this little girl after claymore Clare? Was there any caption that stated that this episode was about Clares past?

This episode being about Clare's past fits perfectly, but i just assumed, when Theresa as naming the girl Clare and talking about the whole naming convention thing, that she was naming the girl after claymore Clare because who is her real sister.


My two cents...

Initially I did think little Clare was another person but I dismissed that cause Teresa does not look like someone who would pick a name already in use with a Claymore. She seemed rather full of herself in the 1st half of the episode, so it didn't seem like she would use adult Clare's name. More like she would have picked a new name. When added that to how little Clare looks (excluding the colour) plus what Teresa said abt the twin goddess two names plus the OP, it all fit much better when I realized that it was an episode in the past. Also, if you listen to Claire's non verbal sounds, like her breathing, they remind me of adult Calre in ep 4 when she was injured and breathing heavily. Add that to how adult Clare treats Raki and it almost becomes ironclad.

Also on a sidenote, it would be confusing to have two characters in the same time period with the exact same name. I mean why spell Clare as Clare and not Claire if they wanted a similar name? (even that would be confusing as I do sometimes spell Clare as Claire Laughing. Can you just imagine the discussion in the forums? No, not that Clare, I mean the other Claire Laughing


Tsujoi wrote:

More info on aging and "awakening" will be told in later episodes. Yeah, I'm guessing that the youma parts disfigure their bodies wherever it was inserted.You're right, Theressa is the number one Claymore during that time period.



Time period?

Teresa is not the top Claymore in Clare's present time anymore? It's difficult to imagine someone else surpassing her as up till recently I taught Clare was the most powerful Claymore. Laughing

I'm curious to how old Teresa is and how long can a Claymore live if they don't turn or get killed.
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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2007 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My views are that its REALLY the past. like it was mentioned above, and how teresa really inspired clare as a claymore and an example. AND dont forget its said that they say teresa does not NEED to activate her yoma powers to fight, that means immortality. She will not transform since she doesnt need to activate any yoma blood in her body, thus she can go on like this for ages.

WHICH is why we can see clare and teresa clashing swords in the opening, whether it might only be a decoration is another matter. I never read the manga but i'm gonna make a following statement, so i hope i dont hit any bulleye. next spoiler below:


Probably comes a time where teresa gets a card for clare to fight her, but was probably decided by the agency since maybe teresa gets too powerful for her own good.
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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2007 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ranking: Clare is ranked 47 out of 47. Dead last.

Age: I'm guessing they can live as long as youma's. I'm assuming that they stop aging after they turn half youma.


Can't wait to see Irene and later the 24 Claymore teamup. after this story arc ends.
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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2007 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hitoshura wrote:


WHICH is why we can see clare and teresa clashing swords in the opening, whether it might only be a decoration is another matter. I never read the manga but i'm gonna make a following statement, so i hope i dont hit any bulleye. next spoiler below:


Probably comes a time where teresa gets a card for clare to fight her, but was probably decided by the agency since maybe teresa gets too powerful for her own good.


LOL total miss Rolling Eyes

even if you havent read the manga, by ep6 that theory would totally be dispelled.
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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2007 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tsujoi wrote:
Ranking: Clare is ranked 47 out of 47. Dead last.

Age: I'm guessing they can live as long as youma's. I'm assuming that they stop aging after they turn half youma.


Can't wait to see Irene and later the 24 Claymore teamup. after this story arc ends.


Clare's
LAST?!!

OMG! Shocked Just how powerful are the other Claymore's then? Laughing

I'm assuming she gets turned into a claymore as a kid, since she clearly enters the organization as one. If they stop aging when they are turned, doesn't that mean she would be a kid?

Wow! 24! Hope they can cover 24 more characters well in the remaining eps. Won't that be too many people for a 26 eps series?

Ep 6:

I wonder why Teresa's handeler seemed more afraid of Teresa when she mentioned that she had a reason to live? He seemed ok with killing her becasue she broke a rule but rather enrage when she found a reason to live. I find that strange.

I don't think Teresa would want Clare to be a claymore, so I'm wondering what happened to them? I wonder what could have lead to thier break in the relationship. I'm also starting to wonder if it is actually Teresa who crosses sword with Clare in the openning. As how things stand in ep 6, it looks more like Teresa would protect Clare with her life. This jigsaw so does not fit.


Overall a great episode. Looking forward to the next one.
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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2007 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I cheated. I went and DL and read the first 10 volumes of the manga. I'm amazed at how closely the anime follows the manga. At least so far. Some minor differences. Having cheated though, I'm really looking forward to the next few episodes.


A lot of things are going to become very clear. Like why Clare is a Claymore. How she got to be one. And of course its obvious why she has taken Raki.
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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2007 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I don't think Teresa would want Clare to be a claymore, so I'm wondering what happened to them? I wonder what could have lead to thier break in the relationship. I'm also starting to wonder if it is actually Teresa who crosses sword with Clare in the openning. As how things stand in ep 6, it looks more like Teresa would protect Clare with her life. This jigsaw so does not fit.

Well judging by the way the "present time" Clare is acting, I think that they had to fight each other in some way Confused .

Episode 6 was great in many ways, The best episode for now Smile .
Really enjoying much more the new arc so far. Teresa is really interesting and im dying to see what will happen next.
Im starting to understand why Teresa already had a huge fanbase in the manga reader's department.


My speculations for what will happen in the next episodes
I think Teresa will be pushed beyond her limits when fighting the four Claymore who wants her head. Teresa will probably become a Youma but Clare will save her in the same way Raki saved Clare in the 4th episode.
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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2007 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clare Age Hmm, you're right. Well, there should be a scene coming up in the next few epi's that might shed some light on this.


24 Claymores Yeah, most of them just get introduced by name and rank. Out of the 24 claymore's, I think there were 5-6 that are previously introduced during the storyline. Arg, the fight ended, but I'm left confused. I'll refrain from discussing it though XD.


Organization/Teressa I think it's more of a free will/own thought kind of deal. I don't think the organization likes their "tools" to have a mind of their own.

I don't see how they can fit all this into 26 epi's...I mean...for the whole story there are 13+ volumes to go through.

Wow Teressa's VA is Romi Paku. Man, she's in alot of things...quite busy.

Man, this manga/anime is just too good not to own. *Goes to buy the manga*
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