Gun Control

leoxjm · Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 8:38 pm Post subject: Gun Control

On an unrelated search today I stumbled onto this site, which is very clearly anti-gun control. I have to admit that I'm not very knowledgeable on the subject of Gun control. As a far as I can tell the opinions on the subject range from bans on firearms to completely free sale of these.

I like to think of myself as a moderate person (even hough I know I don't always act like one), and as such I don't see what is so unreasonable about gun control. I mean, sure, banning weapons isn't gonna make the problem go away and I DO believe that people should be able to use guns if it makes them feel safer. However, I do not understand either why some people whine about requiring permits to use guns, having evaluation periods, having to register your weapon with a government agency and limiting the types of weapons available to civilians. What's wrong with that? people need permits to drive cars and cars need license plates, registrations, etc. Mind you cars are not intended with the purpose of injuring and/or killing others, so why not weapons? or is that not gun control?

Besides, wouldn't just being able to acquire a gun easily also make them available to the murderers and rapists that the gun-nuts are oh-so afraid of? I'd personally feel less safe in a place where anyone can shoot me that in a place were there is the off-chance that someone might shoot me. I've also heard the argument that fascists and communists (supposedly anti-freedom regimes) advocated gun control as an argument against it. I also recall that both fascists and communists promulgated anti-rape laws, so "because the bad guys did it" should we legalize rape? Didn't think so.

I have to acknowledge that registrations, permits, etc. are flawed systems that would not entirely prevent people who shouldn't have weapons from getting them, but they should help in dampening accidents that occur by coming in contact with weapons, aiding he police in determining suspects of violent crime and creating a consciousness that weapons are to be handled carefully and with respect, after all the lives of the bearer and others would be at stake.

What are people's opinions on the subject?
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LuNa_BLaNCa · Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 10:07 pm Post subject:

One of the biggest dangers of having a gun is having it get to the wrong hands, like a child. So i can understand the reasons behind theis "ban guns" idea

I have no problem with someone owning the gun, afterall it is just a method of protection. They better just use it as a last resort tho, and nothing more (i know thats a lot to expect outta someone). And if that gun is going to be at home, they should be smart enough to put it somewhere safe, and with a lock Rolling Eyes

lol there are a lot of people that own guns (my dad included) that do not have a permit Rolling Eyes

the reason most don't get that permit (besides the fact that they too lazy or that its a tedious task) is cause if something were to happen around their neighborhood, lets say shooting between races, then the first people the cops are going to pin point are those with the registered guns.

Another thing, its not completely illegal to have a gun without permit, but u have to make sure that the gun and bullets are seperate and that the gun is in a safe box.

If you know that u are the type to leave things lying around or is one that gets mad easily..DO NOT GET A GUN!...if u do...use ur brain and Put it away with a LOCK!
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LovelessFate · Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 5:28 am Post subject:

I am completely against the use of guns w/o permits, I always fear something bad might happen, w/c usually happens when a person is drunk, like in my neighborhood, It gives me the creeps Sad

But that idea of separating the gun from the bullets is nice one, only if people would go with it or cooperate with it.
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Budak · Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 12:11 pm Post subject:

Warning Do Not Play with GUNS : That what the tv says
but say what.... the president say like this "Use Ur Guns!!!"

That kind of STINKS!

REMEMBER :
*Gun Kills*

Some times people use guns for ROBBERY and Raping and more!

Gun is not allowed in my country! Yay~! I'm Happy with it
cause i have only 50% to live if my country allows guns!
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joll3 · newbie! Joined: Dec 17, 2006 Posts: 47

Well, since im swedish (have license to get the weapons i want tough) i really think that it is is something that is needed. If everyone can have guns they get really dangerous since people are scared of eachother and will shoot before they are shot. Well thats kinda what i think in general and i dont wanna go to deep into this subject since i will call everyone r-tards if they dont agree with me so ill keep it to that.

mangaddict_reborn · Naginata Ashigaru Joined: Sep 06, 2006 Posts: 483

I get easily confused at this subject. The word "control" is such a broad term. To control guns would be to eliminate them and could also be to use them.

the_scarcifyx · Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 2:09 am Post subject:

Many of the youth today possesses fire arms, and the effect it triggers crimes and for some are gang wars. Guns should be controlled to those persons who is not licensed to carry arms, an outlaw and to those who illegally
circulate guns, unauthorized.
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xtc1 · newbie! Joined: Apr 13, 2007 Posts: 1

the thing about putting restirctions on guns is that the people that comit crimes dont care about getting a permit any way. there is always going to be crime and guns arent the cause of it.

leoxjm · Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 11:14 pm Post subject:

c0mp4ct · newbie! Joined: Jan 20, 2007 Posts: 4

Possessing a gun without a permit is probably a bad idea, since guns could get into the hands of the "wrong" people. I'd support gun control because not everyone is as reasonable as people may argue.

tikigods · newbie! Joined: Apr 16, 2007 Posts: 2

The problem with gun control is that it doesn't stop the people that shouldn't have the guns in the first place not get them, while the people that would legally get the guns are now left without the guns to protect themselves from the ilegal guns out there

technomo12 · Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 12:50 pm Post subject:

sure i know guns are dangerous but there is one saying that is defenitly true

but banning it will not solve any probs at all it people who should be tested not the gun

Guns don`t kill people People KILL PEOPLE!!!!!!!

GUNS ARE MERELY TOOLS TO CARRY ANY PLANS ON KILLING!!!!!
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izza · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:38 pm Post subject:

PEOPLE ON MEDICATION KILL PEOPLE OR THEMSELVES. They should not be allowed to buy guns.

If you have medical history of mental illness, depression or are on anti-depressants or any form of mood or psycho medication GUN CONTROL SHOULD BE EXCERISED.

ie CRAZY PEOPLE WITH GUNS KILL PEOPLE.

Crazy people without guns just sit around and make voodoo dolls and draw disturbing drawings about everyone they want to kill. Those drawings don't actually kill people, whereas GUNS do.

ddogt432 · Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 12:48 pm Post subject:

i am pro guns. i love them. i love shooting them. i love the feeling of power they provide. i love the feeling of safety they provide. but i also understand the fear they can instill.

gun control is a very broad topic. it can range from simply who is allowed to own a firearm to the outright banning of firearms altogether. both cases are true in the world today, and depend on where in the world we are talking about. for americans, guns and gun control has been an integral part of our society since its inception.
i don't know how much many of you know about firearms and their general state in the world today, but i'm assuming not many of you are very knowledgable. in the united states of america, every single firearm bought on the legal market is registered with the federal government. background checks on every potential purchaser of a firearem is mandatory. in this way, very few guns that end up in the "bad guys" hands get there from legal means. no matter how hard we try, how tight the government controls sale of firearms, they will end up in the hands of those who don't have any regard for the law anyway. the only way to ever completely be gun-free, is to have every single firearm on the face of the planet destroyed and never make another one ever again. but that's not going to happen anytime soon.
the biggest arguement you will here for anti-gun control is about the right of the private citizen. with the world as it is today, and criminals able to obtain firearms outside the law, good, upstanding citizens are left at their mercy. i believe this 100%. i'm sure many of you are still young, so you've never experienced the complete and utter helplessness that comes with being at the mercy of another person with power. this power could be physical or mental, but more often that not, it is physical. like the stereotype schoolyard bully, these criminals use their unfair advantages to wreak havoc on the less fortunate. but unlike the schoolyard bully, the fight doesnt have to be unfair when it involves guns. cutting off the law abiding citizen from any form of protection makes this scenario unfair.

Kaos_Dragon · newbie! Joined: May 24, 2007 Posts: 15

i think guns r ok to have since they're mainly for defence and nothing more and nothing less.
but i do think if there weren't guns then the virginia tech accident wouldn;t of happened