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these are suffixes added to names when addressing our refering to one another. they show the relation between the speaker and the subject.
for those you listed:
-kun = used when addressing little boys or close male friends (female to male). also used by teachers for young students. can be derogatory when used on someone older than you.
-sama = used when addressing a highly respected figure. generally, they are older or much higher ranked than the speaker.
-dono = slightly archaic version of -sama. often used with high-ranking, powerful traditional japanese families and government officials.
-san = your general purpose suffix. this is the most commonly used suffix in day to day conversation and when first meeting someone.
a couple extras:
-chan = same as -kun, but for girls.
-sempai = a sempai is one who is higher than the speaker in a structured system (ie. school grades, work place, etc.). often attatched to a name to show that relationship
-tan = childish pronunciation of -chan. used by very young children to address close relatives and friends. very demeaning when used peer to peer.
the lack of a suffix shows a very close relationship. if this relationship does not exist, it is extremely disrespectful. _________________
-sensei (address teacher)
-taichou (addess team leader)
-taisan (address captain)
I thought -tan is used to address little kids BY adults... I think I was wrong..?
it can also be used that way, but i think it has either a very doting (think grandfather to favorite grandchild) or non-standard connotation. -tan is often used for mascots, like the OS-tans for Microsoft Windows. it's also used by older men to young(er) girls, usually with playful/sexual intent. _________________
-kun = used when addressing little boys or close male friends (female to male). also used by teachers for young students. can be derogatory when used on someone older than you.
If anime is any indication (it's my only exposure to Japanese anyway) -kun can also be used in male-male interaction with friends or equals. Usually used by youths.
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-chan = same as -kun, but for girls.
I thought -chan was a predominantly female, but gender neutral, diminutive. Sure, it works like -kun, but can also be applied to young (very young) males or to certain close acquaintances, regardless of gender. Example, in Get Backers Ginji calls Ban "Ban-chan", tough both are male adults. It is implied by its use that the relationship is a close one. _________________
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 3:00 am Post subject:
ddogt432 wrote:
-san = your general purpose suffix. this is the most commonly used suffix in day to day conversation and when first meeting someone.
basically it's like saying "Mister" "Misses" or "Miss"
leoxjm wrote:
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-chan = same as -kun, but for girls.
I thought -chan was a predominantly female, but gender neutral, diminutive. Sure, it works like -kun, but can also be applied to young (very young) males or to certain close acquaintances, regardless of gender. Example, in Get Backers Ginji calls Ban "Ban-chan", tough both are male adults. It is implied by its use that the relationship is a close one.
yes, you're right
CClark777 wrote:
Well heres another one and I will probly misspell this one
Kohi- like senpi but for under classmen/woman
I know i spelt that wrong, sorry
kouhei I believe is the proper spelling
du5k wrote:
Hmm... some rather unused ones...
-sensei (address teacher)
-taichou (addess team leader)
-taisan (address captain)
well, maybe they're not used in daily-life japan, but I do encounter them alot in anime _________________ GTX: Great Teacher Xeno... my daily blog about teaching in an elementary and middle school in Japan (see right-menu)
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 3:18 am Post subject:
Xeno>>> I believe that its spelled like this Kouhai, I think or at least thats how i have seen it spelled.
I think this is one of the few educational threads up here XD lol
anyways Xeno knows I use kun in my myspace name!! =D _________________ (\__/)
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 3:23 am Post subject:
bigdave wrote:
Xeno>>> I believe that its spelled like this Kouhai, I think or at least thats how i have seen it spelled.
I think I've seen it both ways. Problem with romanji is that it seems to be up to intrepetation.
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I think this is one of the few educational threads up here XD lol
anyways Xeno knows I use kun in my myspace name!! =D
aye, and I still need to respond to the FaceBook post you left me... I never use it, so don't think I'm ignorin' ya, haha _________________ GTX: Great Teacher Xeno... my daily blog about teaching in an elementary and middle school in Japan (see right-menu)
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:23 am Post subject:
Although this probably may seem out off topic i think is still a nice adition
When children address ther father theres an even more respectful way of saying thats (japanese word for father) -ue, that means above. I don't know if it's more respectful but i've seen use it.
You call your father Chichi, so it's Chichi-ue or Oto-san, never seen
Oto-ue
Maybe someone knows about this, for mothers too.[/quote]
Joined: Mar 22, 2007 Posts: 10 Location: Chinatown
Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 1:03 am Post subject:
leitche182 wrote:
When children address ther father theres an even more respectful way of saying thats (japanese word for father) -ue, that means above. I don't know if it's more respectful but i've seen use it.
You call your father Chichi, so it's Chichi-ue or Oto-san, never seen
Oto-ue
I was under the impression this was more of an archaic style of speaking, more or less obsolete. I've heard it in samurai movies and the like, but that's it.
[quote=xenocrisis0153]I think I've seen it both ways. Problem with romanji is that it seems to be up to intrepetation. [/quote]
Kouhai/kohai is indeed the correct spelling. I don't think it's used as a suffix, in the way one might use sempai/senpai.
Joined: Apr 24, 2005 Posts: 8154 Location: Down Under
Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 5:09 am Post subject:
leitche182 wrote:
Although this probably may seem out off topic i think is still a nice adition
When children address ther father theres an even more respectful way of saying thats (japanese word for father) -ue, that means above. I don't know if it's more respectful but i've seen use it.
You call your father Chichi, so it's Chichi-ue or Oto-san, never seen
Oto-ue
Maybe someone knows about this, for mothers too.
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Yep, for mother's, you can call her 'Haha' and the more honorifical one is 'Haha-ue' I think these are on the same status of respect with Otou-sama and Okaa-sama.
And adding a couple more I know.
Along the lines of -chan when freinds are close enough to call each other that. Sometimes you hear the suffixes -pii, -pyon ... or sometimes they are used to context to tease/irritate the other person (example in Tsubasa Chronicle, Fai and Mokona call Kurogane 'Kuro-pii, kuro-tan etc. to irritate him) _________________ Get ready to vote for who you think is the Sexiest Anime Character!!
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