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eternityland newbie!

Joined: Jul 24, 2005 Posts: 26 Location: Australia
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 4:33 am Post subject: bit torrent |
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i want to ask whether using bit torrent is legal or not for download anime?
i stay in australia right now and i was confused about how to download anime without violating the law in here. this is my first time in australia and i really don't know the about the internet law and regulation here?
i was previously live in Indonesia, in there download anything like anime, mp3, video clips using bit torrent is not a big problem. because the government cannot control about it and many people use bit torrent in here.
i know that using bit torrent is the easiest way to get files or data because it was shared. But getting files like that, it is said to support piracy.
i am really confused right now?
can any of you please give me some advice whether to download using anime, using bit torrent or not?
i am sorry if my english is not so good.
Thanks for reading this topic.
i hope all of you can give me some good advice. |
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eternityland newbie!

Joined: Jul 24, 2005 Posts: 26 Location: Australia
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 4:36 am Post subject: wrong text |
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| can any of you please give me some advice whether to download anime, using bit torrent or not? |
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xenocrisis0153 A-Source Admin


Joined: Nov 29, 2004 Posts: 8365 Location: Futaba District, Fukushima Japan
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 4:53 am Post subject: |
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it is illegal, no question about it. It's a clear violation of international copyright law and intellectual property laws. People do it anyway because they know that they most likely won't be pursued by the cops or lawyers, so it's really a moral decision. The way I deal with it personally is I buy the official DVD of any series I "preview" when the DVD is available in my country (the USA).
Many people will come up with their own arguements as to why they're not wrong, but the bottom line is the industry cannot survive without people buying the licensed products (and not Hong Kong bootlegs either). Funny thing is... if ALL anime fans bought the DVDs, then the disks would be cheaper for everyone. _________________
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L4mE Jikan Samurai

Joined: Jul 10, 2005 Posts: 913 Location: Net0
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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ok it is illegal no matter where they are since bt is copiying the hard work of jap artist.....
but may people still do that and as far as i know i never got catch in aussie for dling in bt
but just becareful sometimes it does
when it does they will usually give warning first
if they do that change the internet profider
or you will be sulking wanting for watching the anime
well watching in you tube also the same ooo
but since the distribution of anime in aussie is S L O W
so most of the time if you dl it before would be ok
well still illegal though ...in japan... duh
anyway just dl it since it actually illegal also in Indo.... yeah i know that place since i grow up there..... _________________ Haruhi: "Crab is a no-no. Picking the flesh out of the shell drives me nuts. Why crabs make their shells hard? How come they evolve like that?"
Kyon: That's why they evolved shells! They don't evolve in the sea just for the sake of your stomach! |
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subbergod Naginata Ashigaru

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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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Have any of you read the media? Anime companies love subs, they help with publicity. They just want subbers to take them down when the shows finally show up on dvd.
Battle programer shirase even had messages to subbers in it. _________________ Official winner of the A-S Worst Thread Ever Award
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xenocrisis0153 A-Source Admin


Joined: Nov 29, 2004 Posts: 8365 Location: Futaba District, Fukushima Japan
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 3:48 am Post subject: |
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| subbergod wrote: |
| Have any of you read the media? Anime companies love subs, they help with publicity. |
not ALL of them, a few have some bad notions about it, but for the most part, they don't mind since it generates good word of mouth. Of course, they don't want people downloading for free when they're trying to sell the show in your region, so yeah, once it's available on DVD, they start to crack down on internet distribution.... and downloaders should do the same. _________________
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eternityland newbie!

Joined: Jul 24, 2005 Posts: 26 Location: Australia
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:48 am Post subject: |
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i just want to ask, is there any of you that stay in Australia download anime or mp3 using bit torrent?
i mean if there were many that used bit torrent to download, then i think maybe it's okay for me to use them. because since many people used it then maybe the gov just pretend not see (maybe).
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Destiny81 jdorama freak

Joined: Mar 10, 2005 Posts: 6106 Location: Somewhere In SEA
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:04 am Post subject: |
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| eternityland wrote: |
i just want to ask, is there any of you that stay in Australia download anime or mp3 using bit torrent?
i mean if there were many that used bit torrent to download, then i think maybe it's okay for me to use them. because since many people used it then maybe the gov just pretend not see (maybe).
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so far i have not read any news that Aussies is caught downloading bit torrent files
but for sure it illegal
u may give it a try, and most unlikely you would be caught downloading it  _________________
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TheLoneBrit101 Daimyo

Joined: Nov 27, 2006 Posts: 1971 Location: In an ice cream tub!
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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Ah it pisses me off because when an anime becomes licensed in the US of A, everyone takes down the torrents of the anime in question when it won't be sold here in Brittania for another 2-3 years _________________
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L4mE Jikan Samurai

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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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well if YOU are wondering eternityland
then you havent read my post...
anyway yeah i live in aussie
and already dling some anime before it is closed down by american company that have license
simply to say just like in indo where it is practically free to buy pirac. product
so if you wnat to dl it is ok
as long your bandwidth allows
and of course the bt data is there
so dl away
but i don't really encourage this.. since my friend practically have all the anime out there so i just ask him....swt
but it does illegal and will be tried to track down in america... _________________ Haruhi: "Crab is a no-no. Picking the flesh out of the shell drives me nuts. Why crabs make their shells hard? How come they evolve like that?"
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killeraargh tohoshinki fangirl

Joined: Mar 08, 2005 Posts: 4317
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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Ha!
Up here in Canada, we can just sit on our asses and download crap.
Apparently, we just can't UPLOAD illegal materials. If someone has already uploaded them....=) |
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Destiny81 jdorama freak

Joined: Mar 10, 2005 Posts: 6106 Location: Somewhere In SEA
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:14 am Post subject: |
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| killeraargh wrote: |
Ha!
Up here in Canada, we can just sit on our asses and download crap.
Apparently, we just can't UPLOAD illegal materials. If someone has already uploaded them....=) |
really?? i have seen alot of anime been licensed by viz media which is from canada? and suprisingly they are still eyeing alot of potential anime to be licensed  _________________
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ddogt432 New Release Guy


Joined: May 25, 2003 Posts: 2199 Location: Texas
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:21 am Post subject: |
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| Ah it pisses me off because when an anime becomes licensed in the US of A, everyone takes down the torrents of the anime in question when it won't be sold here in Brittania for another 2-3 years |
it's cause we're the only english speaking country that counts xD. haha, i kid =P. but in general, most it's often not the subber's fault. american companies crackdown on english subs without regard to where the subs are actually coming from. i think the only way a sub group actually dodged legal action was by hosting their stuff overseas (finland, i believe). _________________
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Destiny81 jdorama freak

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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:23 am Post subject: |
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so most of the fansubbed anime is subbed from finland you say, ddog?
i heard that Finland is the country that is neutral......  _________________
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subbergod Naginata Ashigaru

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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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| and downloaders should do the same. |
Woah there, sparky. I always download stuff that is licensed. There is no reason for downloaders to crack down on subbers.
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| it's cause we're the only english speaking country that counts xD. |
Essencially correct. _________________ Official winner of the A-S Worst Thread Ever Award
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