why giant humanoid robots?

sakib · Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:50 am Post subject: why giant humanoid robots?

i've been wondering, why would people be more inclined to used human shaped robots when there are more efficient forms of mechs? btw this is just on a practicality standpoint but feel free to comment as you wish
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Renzoken · Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:42 am Post subject:

Perhaps because it looks familiar to how we are. But on other side what do you see as more efficient form? Just no legs and hovering or do you mean a totally different to a degree that it doesn't even look like anything close to being a human?

But mm tentacles should be more ineffective than our human arms. But mmm wonder what happens if one of those goes berserk and out of control. The horror.... Rolling Eyes

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sakib · Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:51 am Post subject:

haha that would suck!

anyway what i would think to be efficient is to lose the arms, i mean why make an arm with fingers that will take up a lot energy and frankly time to produce and make a giant gun? why not attach the gun right on? i mean there's the weight issue but that can come later
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Renzoken · Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:33 pm Post subject:

If your thinking about Gundams or something. I guess so it could switch weapons. At least being multipurpose. I don't think you can pick or hold something with a gun barrel as your hand. But should be possible with fingers. And your hand is quite flexible. You can hold something and still twist and turn it ways your arm won't be able to.

But the tentacle can do everything

Ok enough of me and my tentacle fetish...
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ddogt432 · Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 1:16 pm Post subject:

i think that most mech are humanoid due to man's inclination towards the familiar. christians will have you believe that man was created in god's image, and as the creators of mecha, we made them in our image.

from a practicality standpoint, it's very hard to find anything as flexible as versitile as the human hand. this is most because we design everything to be used by our hands, but it's ability to adapt to nearly everything is bordering ridiculous. sure, you could just bolt a gun straight on to the armor, but when that gun runs out of ammo, it's just dead weight. when the enemy gets in close, you're screwed as well. with an arm and hand assembly, you can switch weapons easily and manipulate them in all the ways available to humans.

finally, they just look reallyreally cool xD
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red255 · Jikan Samurai Joined: Mar 13, 2007 Posts: 923

Its supposed to inspire fear in your opponent or something.

But yeah I'd personally thing an animal design with the guns mounted on hardpoints would make more sense....the animal would vary with the purpose of the mech but I'm thinking wolf/lion types.

Its just that you need a humanoid bot to fight with a sword, or dance, or toss a giant pizza. which make for a better SHOW.

CClark777 · Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:22 pm Post subject:

well making a gient machine animle is just as hard as a human verson. but the hardest thing would be the control mechanesm, that would be the hardest thing to design for a animale version were as a human version the pilot could be straped in and every movement he made the machine made. but this is hard also couse it would take time to get the pilot into the machine and straped down.

The design for these machines isnt that hard to come up with I mean I have several myself and they are bult with a duble movement system so that the speed that they move at is something that the pilot would move at.

But then again if it works or not is a whole different story. plus Ive never showen anyone my designs.

du5k · A-Source Staff Joined: Nov 05, 2005 Posts: 6357

It'll probably be because it'll be easier to move it, as it'll probably move it's fingers like how WE more OUR fingers.

But anyway, human bodies has evolved to a point where it'll be most efficient to do most physical work.... and stuff.

Tentacle cant do judo.

CClark777 · Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:20 pm Post subject:

You also got manuverabilaty through a bunch of different teran. A tentical bot couldent, the best it would be suted for is the water ... deep water.

red255 · Jikan Samurai Joined: Mar 13, 2007 Posts: 923

for construction? I'd think a gorrilla bot would have more Strength to do the job and other simian forms having more climbing balance.

We don't need to USE our hands when fighting with a mech, we can just screw the weapons onto the body. it just looks cooler when the guy slices thru grunts with a sword, it isn't PRACTICAL.

My point is what HUMANS have going for them is intellegence and the ability to make and use tools. whereas animal forms if they had the ability to use tools and human intellegence would beat us in combat.

CClark777 · Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 6:04 pm Post subject:

This brings up the fact that shap is not as important as internal structer

And legs are hard to controle so 4 legs would be extremly diffucled to control

Also designing them is hard arms are way easer

And screwing weapons in thats been around for a while long as robotech has
Just look up Battle Tech or Mech Worier to see lots of examples.

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Dobby · Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 2:36 am Post subject:

in my consider humanoid half human robot Evangelion series.
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