Problems with drawing.

VasH83 · Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 7:09 pm Post subject: Problems with drawing.

Hello

Where to begin.
I am a beginner with making my own drawings Crying or Very sad

. So thats why i Created this topic. I think it would be nice to ask here all your questions and ansers, if you have problems with your drawing.

So for all you Artists out there on Anime-source if you have any problems with your drawing or do a question about how to draw something ask them here.

And the people that know the anser to ther questions or have a suggestion can anser them here also.

i hope you like this topic.

LoneWolf325 · Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 3:44 pm Post subject:

so what's your question?

When I started learning to draw, I traced other drawings and tried to copy other work. Now I'm still learning to draw, I go back and check references occasionally(often my own. I look at enough different styles I sometimes forget what my characters are supposed to look like), and also go look for real-life reference material.(I recently went out and researched girls' thong-style underwear because I was making a 3D model of a girl and I wanted to give her thong-style underwear. She was wearing a skirt that was short enough to bring underwear into play. Just one of the perks of being an artist.)

DrJackal · Jikan Samurai Joined: Mar 14, 2004 Posts: 979

I have problems with cging. Can this go in this thread? What's better/easier to use, photoshop/opencanvas? I have difficulty adding layers of colours for a colour shading effect. Any tips? And 1 more question, is a $150 tablet worth it? Graphwire etc I'm thinking of getting a tablet so i can cg more easily.

LoneWolf325 · Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2004 12:27 pm Post subject:

I see no reason for CG questions not to go here.

hmm... I've never used Opencanvas, but I have used Adobe Photodeluxe, MS Paint, and PSP8. All of the above(yes, even Paint) are good programs.

PSP8 is fairly user-friendly, IIRC it costs $50 to $100 at the store.(I'll have to get around to buying it sometime... heheh... Rolling Eyes

(no, I will not tell you where I got my copy.)

There are plenty of CG tutorials out there. If you want to vectorize your pictures, rest assured, it's a pain in the neck. Looks great if done well, but takes a lot of time. I've taken to scanning my pictures in and then using the Airbrush tool on a new layer to add the lines. Tablet helps a lot for this, because hey, let's face it, the pen is mightier than the mouse!(well, easier to use for drawing, anyway.) I then go in and color using the mouse, because while the pen's easier to use for that, I still don't have much practice with it.

My best advice for learning to draw well: do a lot of it, and post a lot of your work in this forum here. Plenty of folk around here are excellent artists(Zox-whatsisname and Bakanekonei, to name a couple) and art critics, and those who aren't really artists(not alot of those) are just really good critics.

Hey, they helped me!
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DrJackal · Jikan Samurai Joined: Mar 14, 2004 Posts: 979

I hate using vectors to colour pictures using photoshop, it takes too long + i can't seem to get the lines to curve around something round. It must takes lots of practice to get the hang of vectorising?

ZoXArkXoZ · Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2004 1:11 pm Post subject:

DrJackal · Jikan Samurai Joined: Mar 14, 2004 Posts: 979

I assume you use freeform pen with your tablet to ink your work using photoshop? I need to improve my cg skills, but I really can't get in the mood to draw/colour when there's skool and so little free time and most of it goes to watching anime. Yeah so the bottom line is practice makes perfect, you can't become a good artist without no work involved.

LoneWolf325 · Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2004 2:34 pm Post subject:

well, once you've got a nicely scanned/inked picture, coloring isn't really that hard. I just go over it with an airbrush on a layer set to "Darken."(if you can find my singular entry in the weekly fanart contest, that's how I made it. Still my best work to date, unfortunately.) Unlike Zox, I've never tried the "different layer for each area" thing. Maybe I should. Probably amount to less going over areas with an old color that I've probably forgotten.
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ZoXArkXoZ · Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2004 8:38 pm Post subject:

DrJackal · Jikan Samurai Joined: Mar 14, 2004 Posts: 979

Hmmm i have difficulty drawing a girl's long straight hair. Any tips? And also do you guys draw a shape for the body first and then add the details? I prefer drawing a picture with detail and then slowly adding the body parts piece by piece.

VasH83 · Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 12:45 pm Post subject:

I have a question

I am busy with a drawing but i see that are a lot of errors in it.
Do you drawers start all the way back from the beginning and redraw everything or do you erase your errors.

Any tips how i can correct this problem.

kenshin777 · Heimin (Commoner) Joined: Nov 02, 2004 Posts: 78

LoneWolf325 · Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 1:57 pm Post subject:

lessee...

DrJackal: long straight hair... um, well, I just kinda draw with my whole arm. I don't really understand how you could have troubel with that, is it coming out looking like straw or something? Sorry, can anyone else help this man?

As for shape of the body, I personally start with the hair, then the head, face, torso, arms, legs, and feet. I've read not to do this, because it's "easier to tack a head onto a body than a body onto a head," but I personally find it to be opposite. Effectively, I start drawing top down and spread out, then go back and slowly both add to the fine details and the larger picture. I think it works for me, but then, I only have one sample to put up with here, and it's not that great.

Vash: personally, I erase about 70-80% of what I draw, but starting over is a waste of time. I would be considered a beginner really, though, because you'll find the more talented artists don't erase so much as integrate the pen strokes into the picture as if they were purposeful. I'm afraid to try that.
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ZoXArkXoZ · Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 3:52 pm Post subject:

Well first off to Jackal if u are having problems prortioning the body make a skeleton first THEN expand. You can only skip this step once u have mastered anatomy, proportions, and perspective. Drawing isnt something easily done so try not to skip steps guys. A skeleton helps, trust me on that Very Happy

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In case some of u don't know what i mean by a skeleton it's just the basick out line of a body in terms of straight lines. U make joints with circles feet are trapezoids, hands the same and the head is just an oval. I find it easier to maipulate this stick than a full body.
I tend to work top down as well Face and head first then down ward but i have my skeleton to make sure my characters don't float in the background (if i add one).

On Vash's question: If u are making errors try to erase them and correct them. When u make your sketches don't make the lines dark until u are sure it's as u wanted else after a while ur paper will look like a dark stained mess (which is the WORST when u have some parts awsome looking). I tend to sketch it the best i can, then trace it over fixing small errors on the way.
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VasH83 · Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 10:00 am Post subject:

hello i am busy with an drawing. The drawing i have drawn has two guns on it and thats my problem they don't look the same guns.

How do i solve this problem.
I have tried it to measure it and measuring it some more, but still i don't get them to look one and the gun.

so how do i solve this problem.