do you think anime is getting worse

isamu2 · Last edited by isamu2 on Sat May 26, 2007 9:49 am; edited 1 time in total

well I've been watching these new age animes and they just don't seem to be as good as the old animes. all the ones i see nowadays are all like childish its like where did all the gore and other adult content go? well i've never made a poll before i hope i do it right. so i just want to know all of your opinions and maybe you can tell me of a new anime that has all the good stuff i need and love to watch.
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Judgment · newbie! Joined: Jan 26, 2007 Posts: 13

silverkitsune · Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 2:44 pm Post subject:

I would have to say you have a rather shallow taste in anime.
I used to look for gore and violence in anime when I was going through puberty... it's an immature attitude to look for violence in choosing a good anime.
Yeah, back in high school, I liked things like Evangelion, Hellsing, and typical boy anime with lots of violence. I grew out of that sort of attitude. I really don't have a preference in genre, as long as I find it entertaining to watch, I'll say it's good. Though these days, I lean more towards comedies.

Also, I think I know what you are talking about when you say the trend in anime has changed to something "childish". It's true that most of the anime targeting "adult" audience contained lots of violence and gore. These days, most of the adult oriented anime would likely to contain cute girls and overloaded with "cute". This trend has a name... "moe" (mo-eh). It's a big subject and I think you should just read up some wiki article on "moe".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moe_%28slang%29
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red255 · Jikan Samurai Joined: Mar 13, 2007 Posts: 923

You are just not watching the right stuff.

I mean the mainstream stuff like Naruto, One Piece and Bleach have gotten worse because they should have ended 200 episodes ago.

But the GOOD stuff ... you know the stuff that has been edited and written for quality?

Lets look at the Current anime this season that people are talking about.

well, there is Tengan Toppa Gurren Lagann, which is the best Super Robot Anime I've seen only 8 episodes of. (better than most at the 8 episode mark)

There is Nanoha... which... I really need to see more of the Genre, only thing I could compare it to is the dub of sailor moon.

There is Code GEASS which is ... really good Gundam-esc.

Death Note was very good, haven't watched past ep 25. Sorta feel it should have ended there.

And of course tMoHS... was awesome.

So, the point is, they will always make crappy shows. but IMO the 'good' shows are much better than they were in the past.

Though the children's anime seems to be slipping.

Baka05Carl · newbie! Joined: Nov 17, 2006 Posts: 2

It is getting better.
one part would be the blood and gore. There's:
Hellsing
Elfen Lied
Speed Grapher
Gants
and there are other more that I forgot or I dont know

MrSentimental · Heimin (Commoner) Joined: Jul 22, 2005 Posts: 62

I don't know about the recent stuff from this year, but the newer stuff I've enjoyed has just seemed better quality with the storylines and artwork. Like in Elfen Lied, and especially with Full Metal Panic: 2nd Raid. That's probably the best example of things getting better where the the 2nd Raid story, intense emotions, and artwork just seems so much better than the original.

silverkitsune · Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 10:36 pm Post subject:

isamu2 · Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 11:26 pm Post subject:

ok i know people are going to hate me for this but in my honest opinion i think hellsing sucked ass. i don't care to watch an anime that the character is unrivaled and defeats the opponents without breaking a sweat, that was boring as hell and worse then DBZ.

look I like a good comedy every now and then but when someone gets hit over the head and is called baka 10 times its not funny anymore or when a guy/girl sees something semi erotic and their nose starts to bleed, its just not funny. shit like this is like when you're in elementary school and you laugh at a fart, its childish.

i base anime on content, and storyline. i don't really care on how the quality of the art style is because the way an anime looks is the last thing that attracts me to it. i care about the storyline of any anime but if I'm not happy with contents within I'm not going to watch it. if an anime is suppose to be serious then i sure the hell don't want to see something which is really over exaggerative and or overly cutesy wich will entirely change the mood.
what animes are left when you take away gore,violence,suspense,adult language,and other adult content? i think all thats left is all the over exaggerated and overly cutesy anime for comic relief, so pretty much its stuff suitable for children(anything suitable for a child is most likely childish) from pokemon, massugu ni ikou to one piece and also there are the romantic comedy stories such as "ichigo 100%". I'm not saying romantic comedies are bad because that would make me look like an idiot since i myself like romantic comedies and it seems that there are a lot more of those type genres then really anything else(my opinion).

red255 i loved death note the manga but im a little scared to watch the anime since they usually make the manga look bad. i also agree that naruto should be shorter but not by 200 eps, maybe like 100 eps. i never got into watching one piece i believe i only watched one episode and i didn't find it worthy. I'll check out the animes you suggested when i get the time.

judgement if all new anime genres have the same or a similar storyline and all thats different is the way it looks, then wouldnt you get tired of watching the same thing over and over or are you the type of person that can be entertained by the same thing as long as it has a shiny new look?oh and how the hell do you get nightmares from an anime like elfen lied?????? if elfen lied gives you nightmares then what do movies like Nightmare on Elms street,Halloween,Alien,The Thing and other horror movies do to you???

silverkitsune do you not watch violent anime any more, do you stick with only comedy and romantic comedies?doesn't that get boring, dont you feel like you just need some action from time to time?(no pun intended)

baka05carl hellsing sucked(my opinion) but elfen lied was good.

mrsentimenta i hear that FMP is a great anime but for some reason i always forget to check it out

so since the poll is saying that its geting better then i must be wrong and I'm just not looking at the right animes then. I accept defeat
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silverkitsune · Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 11:52 pm Post subject:

isamu2 · Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 1:45 am Post subject:

ok i'll check out the ova

you're right, it was stupid of me to ask such a question when your words were what they were so i was wrong in saying that.you being as educated and adult shouldn't accuse someone of having a shallow taste in anime when you don't know the full story. you leaned towards comedy after your thrills of gore, i leaned towards gore now that comedy has turned into a bore. my mind Inst narrow and content with one subject from time to time i need something irregular.so just because i said i want more gore and adult content doesn't mean thats all i want in all anime, it just means at this time i want to see some good action packed animes. so making that accusation is rather insulting when you know nothing of me or my taste in anime.

so i still find a lot of the new anime childish from my view and not as good as older anime.i find that new anime seems a bit cartoony which in my opinion is childish.
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silverkitsune · Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 2:43 am Post subject:

You know, you should really stop watching anime...
When you start thinking about how nothing makes sense in an anime, it's time you quit. Sometimes you really have to just accept things as they are and enjoy it for what it is... kind of like how people can enjoy B-movies.

Most anime are built on top of foundation of trends which have accumulated over decades. Most anime out there just follows the standard routine that seems stupid in your view, and some really are just stupid and hollow show without any unique flavor to it. But if you find a show that you think is stupid, do what I do: "don't watch it". Just find some other series you like and move along, there are plenty of anime out there, don't dwell on shitty series.

I think the reason why the newer series seems so bad is because there are more series being animated than in the past. Every year the number of anime being released is growing, this means that even mediocre to downright terrible series will be animated along with some quality series. So the studios are less choosy on what new series to produce now days.

How exactly do you choose what to watch? Do you use anime reviews? because that I never do. When new anime season begins, use my method: download every first episodes of the new series and watch them. Drop the ones you find stupid. Keep the entertaining ones until it goes bad. Rinse and repeat every season.

Also, saying that art style quality is the last thing you consider about an anime tells me that your taste is completely different than mine. Because I really do care about art style. I also think most mangaka and animators do care a LOT about art style. Anime IS about art style, and if you really don't care about that, you really have no reason to stick to watching anime oppose to just watching a regular movie or tv shows.
Of course art style alone won't be enough to keep a show entertaining, but it is important nevertheless.
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Judgment · newbie! Joined: Jan 26, 2007 Posts: 13

trueline · Pure Hope Joined: Jun 13, 2006 Posts: 5134

i voted the second choice and i think this depend on the person's opinion.
If one get along with the old style then he/she probably wont like animes of these days. Old animes have low quality of the art unlike now its more than great but most of them have the same storyline and this is kinda boring especially when it has the same details.

isamu2 · Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 3:05 am Post subject:

i do try to look for new anime to watch thats why i've asked for your opinions on some good anime.when i get new anime i download the first 3 eps to get a better look at the anime and i dont use reviews i use the people here because i think i can trust the opinions of the people here. so yeah now that theres more anime being produced that leads to anime people wont like and thats why i've been finding some shit anime. im tired of finding bad and thoughtless anime thats why i want your help,i need you to prove me wrong and show me the anime that just captivated you.i know there are a lot of good anime out there but im just having trouble finding them. I do watch regular shows like my all time favorite show called "HOUSE". now thats a great show

Judgment i agree that new horror movies arent scary but when i was a child nightmare on elms street was the only one to give me a nightmare. ok what you said about meeting new people and seeing all that elfen lied stuff go through your mind i found funny,dont ask it just was

trueline thank you,finally someone who somewhat agrees with me with out having to argue with me first
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Kimmie-chan · Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 5:01 am Post subject:

For something utterly different to the usual shouen action/love comedy/harem I suggest Maria-sama ga miteru ~ it will get you hooked ^^ like it did to be me Laughing

isumu--> if you get tired of one genre, move on to the next, anime of the one genre may seem to get boring and repetitive ... then move on to the next, something different, something you don't watch often ... anime is WAY too diverse to be generalised together ... IMHO anyway xD
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