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Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 3:19 am Post subject: Homosexuality: Your Opinion
I've seen some threads here that some how got the issue of homosexuality involved and so I decided to make one thread for discussion.
Now, lets hear all of your thoughts about homosexuality. Whether its Yay or Nay or I don't care.
Heres is a map regarding Homosexuality legality in the world.
[img:1339:628:3fd3c35d77]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d7/World_homosexuality_laws.png[/img:3fd3c35d77]
My opinion shall be shared once this thread gets some active post. _________________
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 1:43 am Post subject:
o_O wtf...theres a death penalty for being homosexual?! >.<;;
or did i read that wrong..-double checks-...-.-; nope i was right..wow
I personally don't have any problems for homosexuals, both gay and lesbian...and i do think that they should be allowed to get married legally (it doesn't necessarily need to include the church..i can understand where they are coming from i guess but that shouldn't mean that they don't have the right to get married period =P )
the way i see it is that it's their life..why should we care on how they want to live it or who they want to love??..their choice is none of our business. _________________ [IMG:310]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v679/Glo0226/toki.jpg[/img]
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o_O wtf...theres a death penalty for being homosexual?! >.<;;
or did i read that wrong..-double checks-...-.-; nope i was right..wow
Well, Luna, that's bigotry for you. In this world with race supremacists, religious fundamentalists and other kinds of ridiculous intolerants this is really nothing to be surprised about. A pity yes, but not a surprise.
Anyway, whatever way people choose to live their lives is their choice, and it is definitely not my problem. What's so different about homosexual anyway? They just happen to like people from their same gender. Big deal! That is an intimate, personal matter. Why should any of us care? It's not like being homosexual automatically makes you some sort of rapist or criminal. and if there is some homosexual rapist or something, that is bad because the person is a rapist, not because of being homosexual.
Oh, and to those who think homosexuality is some sort of disease or mental disorder, go ask your doctor about it. Preferably a doctor who believes in evolution, not some quack. Think outside the box for a moment. _________________
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 7:06 am Post subject:
Before I say anything, let me tell you something.
When I was in secondary school I was so strict with my class mates. One bad thing I hear they did I go tell my teacher about it. When they cheat, sing, bother the teacher…etc which means when they disturb me. Anyway, I was all the time going to that teacher (female 38 or maybe 40 years old but she's doesn’t look old at all). Time by time I was feeling happy and I get used to bring anything in order to talk with her. She was the same time asking about me and if I'm feeling ok in class. One day, a problem occurred in my family and I needed someone to talk with about this matter. Things was all up to me and I was feeling sick. I went there and talked with her and she (as a teacher) calmed me down and heard me. Because she heard me I felt something for her. I never had anyone to hear me out nor cared about me that time. Maybe my parents cared but that time I only thought of her as the only one who cared about me. I even thought the world doesn’t care about me more than her (as a teenage of course). I thought that maybe she loved me more than just a love between a teacher and her students. Day by day this feeling grow higher than I thought and I started to come and talk to her more than before. At first she heard me and tried to help me but after she got many problems she said that she can't help me. I got mad but at the same time I liked her more. I begin to love her more and more. I didn’t have anyone else to hear me out other than her (this is what I thought at that time. I didn’t tried to tell others just because I have her). Just because she heard my problem I loved her. I even loved studying because of her though I hate it more than you can imagine. I always wake up early at the morning and attend classes at the same time my personality has changed. I was more than shy and I never leave my chair. Now I clean the board in order to see her. Do you know how many times I was passing by her office? I was another person and I never cared about my study. I became a poor student ^^;. Not only this I begin to see her as a man. Walking in strange walk, talking in sharp tone, becoming strict and putting her eyes into your eyes. She was acting normally but I begin seeing her in different way. All what she do I think of it as something else not only as an act of a teacher only. I fell for her that's why. plus I wanted to fail in order to be at the same school with her but due to my mother's wish I succeeded. Mom forced me to pass so I did. Three years and I was thinking only of her and dreaming only about her. I gave her a small gift before leaving the school so she can always remember me till death. I think she knew that but she didn’t give me a face. Yeah as a teenage she knew this case. After I passed school (my last year in secondary school) I didn’t enter college cause mom forced me to pass and of other reasons. I was thinking of a way to meet her but I couldn’t find any. Thank God some people talked with me and told me about this relationship and that I'm having illness. They healed me after a whole one year. I wasn’t with them but then I knew everything. I begin to search for everything that is related to the illness I'm having. Now looking back at what I felt and did I laugh at myself. I was sick trying to love someone the same gender as mine. I saw same female in my college doing the same. I must say the girl who's making herself look like a male was attractive ^^ and the other one was too feminine. There is no love between them but there is something called "Mahaba" or "Mawada". I searched for a word that match this one in English but I couldn’t. Maybe love between a teacher and student, love between friends. If we didn’t cure them they will go far and will fall for many things. I felt the same thing and I can understand what they are feeling but its only cause they are being cared more from the other person. They are having illness, mental illness and they must be cured. We had a lecture about those that fall for the same gender and we know everything about them. Those people said that we have to heal them and if we can't or we don’t have the power, we should call for them so they can take care of things by themselves. I experienced this matter and I got healed from it. I think they have some mental illness. If not cured they might fall for something more worse than this.
I didn’t tell my story for nothing. I wanted to tell that this happens and we have to help them not sit and watch them or courage them to continue. Being cared from that person more than the others makes them feel this thing the same as what I felt. I want to see her and I'm so eager to talk with her but now I know her as my ideal teacher. _________________ "Blogger"
well I believe whether someone is attracted to their own sex or not is not by choice and I'm not bothered by it. I'm not against it or for it but as long as nobody gets harm.
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 6:33 pm Post subject:
leoxjm wrote:
Well, Luna, that's bigotry for you. In this world with race supremacists, religious fundamentalists and other kinds of ridiculous intolerants this is really nothing to be surprised about. A pity yes, but not a surprise.
well thats f-ed xP
i guess im just a bit too naive about society still..when it comes to relationship matters like these =/
its kinda funny when u think about it...this is suppossed to be the land of the free..a land where one can express eachother freely and take part in the religion of their choice..what good does it do to discriminate one over the other?..let alone have them killed for being different -.-; this isn't the hitler times n e more
(i know some countries live based on their religion's regulations, but still..its kinda sad to know that we have yet to know what true freedom is )
xD sorry..but i had to laugh at your statement about how some think homosexuality is a disease . . . some of my family members still think that way..and even shunned (sp?) their kid from the family cause of it its so stupid! No one choses who they like
do people really think that gays or lesbians chose to go through all that sh*t?? no..but htey have too cause the world is screwed in the head xP
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 11:46 pm Post subject:
LuNa_BLaNCa wrote:
its kinda funny when u think about it...this is suppossed to be the land of the free..a land where one can express eachother freely and take part in the religion of their choice..
If this land really became a land of free it will be called land of disaster.
A normal human walks the way he likes if not guided to the right way he will go astray. Maybe in the future he will build a relationship with his mother or father and we still will tell him/her to have his/her freedom. You can't call this freedom. Its like your telling them do whatever you want right or wrong, good or bad as long as this is your choice. Do you think this world will be good if we followed what we want?
Doesnt mothers always tells their children not to do this and encourage them to do that? Its the same this world has laws and basics we must do and follow not roam freely. Im not against them in their feelings but im agaist the people whom seeing them with this relationship doing nothing to help them. _________________ "Blogger"
Homosexuality from what I view is nothing really abnormal. Homosexuality even exist among animals. Now, I think homosexuality is all right. Biologically ... I don't care ... really, whether someone wants the penis to go up their ass is up to them. And being homo isn't about banging your male partner's ass or receiving it. It can be a loving relationship like between a man and woman. Spiritually I see no different. I mean, spirits don't have gender from the way I see it.
Whether people decide they would accept homosexuality is up to them but to go as far as to criminalize it would be discrimination. After all like Canadian Prime Minister Trudeau said "There's no place for the state in the bedroom of the Nation". And sad thing is many homosexuals are discriminated but in our modern time, more and more are coming out of hiding and begin proud fully admitting their sexuality. And these people can be the ones close to you that you would never suspect.
Whether homosexuality being a disease is now pretty much a myth. Many prejudice were against homosexuals being the spreaders of diseases like Aids. Its true that anal sex has a higher risk of carrying the infection but this holds true to ANY gender.
I mostly see/hear discrimination towards gay men then woman. If a male teacher happens to be gay, there will be many concern by parents and student. BUT, a gay teacher is not much safer than a regular teacher. My math teacher is homosexual and there is nothing dangerous about him. Although I do admit I make sarcastic and homophobic jokes about him, but I respect him as a teacher. We tend to associate gays with child abuse and pedophilla unfairly.
The sad reality, gay men and women are in danger of their life. Gays are more likely to suicide due to pressure and social problems they face. More social programs and assistance is needed in order to help them cope with what they are facing. And homosexuals in many countries as seen in the map I posted above are living in constant fear. Whether the law is against them or society, they are in fear for their life. The law will execute and even torture them. While in other countries, locals will take the law to their own hands.
Now, I am a straight male but I support homosexuals. A good word from my teacher who heard it from his friend "IT TAKES STRAIGHT PEOPLE TO STAND UP FOR THE GAYS IN ORDER TO HELP END DISCRIMINATION" _________________
If this land really became a land of free it will be called land of disaster.
A normal human walks the way he likes if not guided to the right way he will go astray. Maybe in the future he will build a relationship with his mother or father and we still will tell him/her to have his/her freedom. You can't call this freedom. Its like your telling them do whatever you want right or wrong, good or bad as long as this is your choice. Do you think this world will be good if we followed what we want?
Doesnt mothers always tells their children not to do this and encourage them to do that? Its the same this world has laws and basics we must do and follow not roam freely. Im not against them in their feelings but im agaist the people whom seeing them with this relationship doing nothing to help them.
Good. that is exactly what the law is for. people's freedom ends where someone else's begins, and it is the law that draws this boundary.
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Homosexuality from what I view is nothing really abnormal. Homosexuality even exist among animals. Now, I think homosexuality is all right. Biologically ... I don't care ... really, whether someone wants the penis to go up their ass is up to them. And being homo isn't about banging your male partner's ass or receiving it. It can be a loving relationship like between a man and woman. Spiritually I see no different. I mean, spirits don't have gender from the way I see it.
My thoughts exactly. I wouldn't want to kiss a guy, but if I see too guys making out with each other because they want to... well, they can.
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Whether homosexuality being a disease is now pretty much a myth.
You'd be surprised. There is never a shortage of idiots in the world.
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"IT TAKES STRAIGHT PEOPLE TO STAND UP FOR THE GAYS IN ORDER TO HELP END DISCRIMINATION"
Exactly. Straight people are the majority, and it is the straight people that discriminate against the other ones. It is up to us to stop discrimination.
I personally don't like the word "straight" (because it implies that the other is somehow "not straight" or wrong) but it is convenient to use. _________________
I obviously see nothing wrong with homosexuality or bisexuality. They were born that way. It was not their choice to be gays/lesbians. Yet, many religions would automatically condemn them simply because their hormones make them instinctively attracted to other males/females.
I also think that homosexuality comes from the common assumption that it is their "lifestyle choice." _________________ [IMG:500:175:100ce23377]http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u11/freezing_angel/streetsoulhihasra07.jpg[/img:100ce23377]
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 1:54 pm Post subject:
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personally don't like the word "straight" (because it implies that the other is somehow "not straight" or wrong) but it is convenient to use.
didnt really saw it that way..
i saw it as Straight path of a man or a woman,
straight path or no pitstops
because for me Homosexuality is kinda
like you took a different path,
not necessarily wrong, but different than the usual path
man takes..
If that doesn't explain it all
I can go home from work using
5 different paths,
3 different mediums
but...
1 destination home... ^____^ _________________ Am I Existing or Am I Alive? Make me Feel..
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 11:58 am Post subject:
Aaah, morality, morality. Where would we be without you? Whats that? In a better world you say? In a worst world you say? Maybe, maybe...
I was gonna start this post with a bunch of facts and have a little dig an religion, but you know, its all irrelevant in the end. What counts is that ppl should do what they feel like doing.
Okay, okay, Im not saying go out there and kill someone if you feel like it, but if theres no harm in others, then what does it matter?
Majority rules, as leo said, and morality is dictated by majority. Anyone who dosnt follow majority, is often seen as evil, unruly, weird, etc. But we all know that to be untrue. Infact, most the time majority is wrong. So I say do what you want, wther your a homophobe with Nazi tattoes who follows the flock, or a gay man who wants to let the world know it by wearing tight jeans and pink T-shirts. Its all irrelevant, we all have our views, so follow what you want (even you Nazis out there), just dont do while hurting others (*looks at Nazis*)
Sorry, my post kinda turned into a speech which didnt have much to do with the subject, but I hope what I said strikes a cord with you all.
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Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 11:35 am Post subject:
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Pretty nice speech though ^^ _________________ Am I Existing or Am I Alive? Make me Feel..
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