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subbergod
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 1:20 am    Post subject: Date Rape Reply with quote

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if you want to talk about gang rape make a thread that's how hard it is.


I'm always one to obey a mod. Let the posts roll.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what the hell is this?

subbergod, which mod said u should do this?

PM me.

as for this thread, the title is date rape, but in the quote u put gang rape.
which is it?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eisenmeteor wrote:
This is were I step in with something a little bit more simple... stop going off topic, if you two want to discuss the whole thing you got going on, make a new thread about it or pm each other. I doubt people would go in to this thread that's about first dates or whatever and find people talking about rape and censorship.

That was the original post that told him to make his own thread instead of derailing another. The only problem is he didn't so much establish a thread as he just started a thread called date rape with an empty post simply to spite eisen saying "I just did what you told me to".

Now that this thread is here though, I can say what I wanted to without derailing copywheeluser's thread any more than it was.

Subber, you quoted the forum rules stating that you didn't violate them at all. The fact of the matter is, you were interpreting rule one by the standard of if YOU would be offended about something.

subbergod wrote:
I didn't break any forum rules.
1) Be nice to eachother.

Just because you don't find the topic of date rape offensive, and you don't find cracking jokes about it offensive, doesn't mean that no one else that reads your posts will find it offensive, or that they shouldn't be offended, simply because you think they shouldn't.
xenocrisis0153 wrote:
What would your position be if someone you knew was raped... a friend, a sister, a cousin... your own girlfriend. You wouldn't be able to laugh it off, I can tell you that.
subbergod wrote:
Funny you should say that. My friend Crysthal was gangraped and impregnated in NY 3 years back. I can laugh it off.

The question is, can SHE laugh it off? Would SHE be cracking the jokes and making light of the whole thing on this message board like you have been? Would she be offended? Would other girls in her position be offended, or loved ones of hers be offended? The truth of the matter is that yes, the probability of those people being offended is high. Just like how the right to Free Speech gives you the right to use racial slurs in public as long as you understand and accept the consequences of your actions, please try to understand that your posts were distasteful enough to warrant editing.

Date rape is a horrible problem, and you've agreed with that and do share the same opinion. But the bottom line is that blatantly making jokes about it is in seriously bad taste, and rude. It's a touchy subject, and it does need to be discussed and addressed. That's why eisen gave you the go-ahead to start your own thread. Cracking jokes about it however isn't discussing anything at all and displays a certain amount of immaturity regarding the subject.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The question is, can SHE laugh it off? Would SHE be cracking the jokes and making light of the whole thing on this message board like you have been?


She did say that the black guy had the biggest dick. But she was drunk at the time. I dont think she was THAT pissed. She got an abortion and moved on.

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The fact of the matter is, you were interpreting rule one by the standard of if YOU would be offended about something. Just because you don't find the topic of date rape offensive, and you don't find cracking jokes about it offensive, doesn't mean that no one else that reads your posts will find it offensive, or that they shouldn't be offended, simply because you think they shouldn't.


That's totally ridiculous. If I said you are a jackass, you are worthless, go kill yourself, that would be breaking rule one. I can't anticipate when someone might be offended. Mabey your thread was offensive to ME. That's just twisting the meaning of rule one.

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But the bottom line is that blatantly making jokes about it is in seriously bad taste, and rude.


Don't you tell me what is bad taste. My vice principle tried to punishing me once for having a book that was "in bad taste". Do you know what I told him? "WHO MADE YOU THE JUDGE OF WHAT IS BAD TASTE ANYWAY?"
I say the same to anyone who gives a line like that. If you don't like it, don't read it and don't bitch about it. This whole thing is getting ridiculous. I'm not going to go to insane lengths to make sure I don't offend anyone's little feelings. Therefore, here are a collection of pictures that may be in "bad taste"

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[IMG:444:272:9ce3bc7618]http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/4898/blow6wu1.gif[/img:9ce3bc7618]
[IMG:552:361:9ce3bc7618]http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/1117/bulldoz6wk6.jpg[/img:9ce3bc7618]
[IMG:785:520:9ce3bc7618]http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/3636/burgerks5.jpg[/img:9ce3bc7618]
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[IMG:433:210:9ce3bc7618]http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/5120/feminazikw7.jpg[/img:9ce3bc7618]
[IMG:384:288:9ce3bc7618]http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/6040/litters1ay1.gif[/img:9ce3bc7618]
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[IMG:400:534:9ce3bc7618]http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/5093/f8b36ce6mf7.jpg[/img:9ce3bc7618]

You know know what? Despite mabey being politically incorrect, those were all FUNNY. If you try to constrain anything that may offend anyone, then this forum will become boring and pointless.

Oh, I guess that baby being eaten wasn't very funny.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know what you're saying man, and you can't please everyone because there'll always be someone offended. But I think you should recognize that there are somethings that are just obvious taboos, and making jokes out of them is a little inconsiderate. This can be twisted either way. I can say its selfish and inconsiderate of you to post something so offensive. While you can say its offensive to you for saying that your post was offensive. But the bottom line is that most people aren't as cool about it as you and some people really just can't stand that stuff, so why not just take one for the team ? It all comes down to who has to make the bigger effort: The tens of people who are utterly offended because of a similar, painful incident in their past? Or the person who's just trying to have some fun? Anyways, I'm not offended, just giving my opinion =D (although your last picture was urghh when I saw it)
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I can say its selfish and inconsiderate of you to post something so offensive.


Good for you. You have the right to your opinion, And I to mine.

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so why not just take one for the team ?


Because I don't bow to peer pressure. Come one, jump off a bridge. Take one for the team.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since i have no idea what happened in the other thread, my opinion probably ain't worth all that much...

But rule 1 is "Be nice to each other", not "The minority must agree with the majority". He found whatever he said funny, good for him. You don't. Good for you.

Oh look at the time!! Its pointing to "move on"!
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ohhh hey guess what I'm gonna say now? That's right keep it on topic instead.

Ani: Yeah I'm the one who told him to make this thread instead of chatting about it in the "thread modified: first date plans, wa cha think?" thread, since it was going off topic.

Zierlyn: Don't really see him as doing it just to spite me, he wanna talk about it then good for him. Don't mind either way

Personally I don't find that he's done much wrong except for what I considered as trolling and going off topic. If anyone actually feel that he's offended you, you can either report him or the post or talk to him by sending him a pm.

Subber: Seeing as you made this thread and I still think this can probably lead to at least something better other than arguing about the forum rules you can actually make something of it. Otherwise it's just a useless thread that's not about anything in reality which means we might as well lock it up. The choice is yours

Also since not everyone appreciates your humor try to keep it on a level so it won't get people all riled up. If you know they'll get like that or suspects it then just don't post it.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

THIS IS THE LAST WARNING, YOU HAVE THE NEXT POST TO CONVINCE ME THIS THREAD IS WORTH KEEPING OPEN. DOESN'T MATTER WHO MAKES IT, IF IT'S OFF TOPIC, BAM, THREAD LOCKED.

BE WARNED

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Zierlyn: Don't really see him as doing it just to spite me


Actually it was. And it was hilarious.

Good for you, still don't care either way. Was expecting you to make one would have been more surprised if you didn't make one. Why do you think I even suggested it.

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Also since not everyone appreciates your humor try to keep it on a level so it won't get people all riled up. If you know they'll get like that or suspects it then just don't post it.


See, that's what gets me. I shouldn't have to be ultra carefull just in case someone dosen't like what I say.

I said if you know/suspects they would get riled up, not incase they might get riled up. You're not stupid now are you so you know what you shouldn't joke about that can get people riled up. Try thinking outside of what you think is normal. And I don't give a damn if you did this to spite me or what kind of humor you have. But your humor causes reactions so think about when your using it, using it when someone is asking for advice is just going offtopic and causing reactions which looks pretty close to trolling which since you got such good grasp on the forum rules it is indeed against the rules. If your going to use it ignore the comments and don't get in to a debate about it, if you want to give them a piece of your mind about what they think of your humor then send a pm.

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Ohhh hey guess what I'm gonna say now? That's right keep it on topic instead.


Oh yes, quite. Here we go.

The term, "date rape" refers to rape or non-consensual sexual activity between people who are known to each other either platonically or sexually. These particular instances of sexual assault take place during a social interaction between the rapist and the victim hence the name date rape. It may be either planned or spontaneous.

In some cases, "date rape drugs" such as GHB, rohypnol, and ketamine may be used to neutralize resistance or even render the victim unconscious. Such drugs will usually also affect memory of the event. Alcohol remains the drug most frequently implicated in substance-assisted sexual assault. Memory loss of the event can lead to an inability to later prosecute as the victim will not remember the exact circumstances of the attack. As such date rape is difficult to prove in most judicial systems.
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