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Joined: Nov 12, 2004 Posts: 3468 Location: Cocytus
Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 8:22 pm Post subject:
Yes, I know life has ups and downs but it would be great to escape from reality sometimes.
Don't worry guys, you won't see the last of me anytime soon. I still have plans to release new scanlations. Thanks for all the advice and encouraging words. _________________ What's yours is mine, what's mine is still mine.
Joined: May 09, 2005 Posts: 21728 Location: At the Left Coast of The Maple Leaf
Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 2:00 am Post subject:
well they say laughter is the best medicine... and to enhance that thought a few beers wouldn't hurt either.. just don't drive afterwards or have too much you might get a hang over after... _________________
Joined: Nov 29, 2004 Posts: 8365 Location: Futaba District, Fukushima Japan
Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 2:38 am Post subject:
aw, I'm sorry to hear that you're feeling blue.
The best way for battling depression: outdoor exercise. It really works... not only are you getting fresh air and a workout, but it gets your blood flowing (blood flow which increases the production of endorphines and norepinephrine in the brain), plus it's time to be alone and think. Works great for me... any time of the day. I prefer my walks at dusk when the sky is so pretty and the stars are coming out.
Ropponmatsu wrote:
In my opinion, the most important thing in life is to find the meaning of your life. Now I'm not talking about the answer, but instead, what do you want to do? What do you want to be?
haha, sometimes that makes people more frustrated with their situation, but they are important questions that must be addressed eventually.
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I think that you cannot stress enough the importance of allowing yourself to do what makes you happy. There is no reason to just accept your current situation without question, just as there is no reason to live according to the expectations of the people around you.
mm, and as you also said, keeping busy and working toward a goal will always give you a sense of purpose. Learning a new language or studying something new will give you a great motivational spark.
trueline wrote:
There some steps I read from others sites and it might help you a bit, I hope.
3. Don't be a perfectionist.
5. Treat your body well.
6. Learn to relax.
those are the best places to start. The Giver of Pure Hope is also the Giver of Good Advice, it seems, heehee ^___^
ultimasome wrote:
I once tried to suicide but now I dont even dare to do so. Life is hard but if you learn how to get long with it it'll become more than easier to continue living. Hope I'm of help ^^
aww, that's sad. Suicide is a serious social problem... in fact, I was meaning to start a thread on it... look in the Club AS soon for one.
I'll read the rest later... now it's time for Robot Chicken _________________ GTX: Great Teacher Xeno... my daily blog about teaching in an elementary and middle school in Japan (see right-menu)
Joined: Nov 29, 2004 Posts: 8365 Location: Futaba District, Fukushima Japan
Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 3:17 am Post subject:
Xristyan wrote:
try excercising...
if you are up to it... try doing some charitable or community work...
try something new... like maybe play an instrument or a sport...
try travelling as well...
very good suggestions. But yeah, traveling can be stressful like you said... but that's only if you're dependant to a strict schedule. Going someplace on a whim can be very relaxing if you're not uptight about being places at exact times. A beach-resort can be paradise.
Of course, the biggest problem is coming home and going right back to normal life. Usually I come home and end even more not wanting to go back to my routine.
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and if you still want to commit suicide then that means you totally fail in life... since that means you have truly given up and have failed...
suicide = failure in life? hmmm, well, I suppose that I can't argue that that's not true, but suicide isn't usually considered an option. It's not like people think "hey, if I don't get that job I'll either:
a) try for that other job I saw listed
b) register with a career counselor
c) kill myself"
Suicide is first and foremost is a desperate cry for attention. Most people who attempt suicidal are craving something deep down and by drawing attention to themselves, it creates a revived renewal of life. People who are suicide usually don't want to die, they crave change... or in the case of people who cut, they want to feel pain to remind them that they are alive.
07cbdj wrote:
Also when You're reading these replies You should note that there are people, who have never ever seen You, but like to help You.
that's probably the most-effective line in this whole thread
spankit wrote:
personally instead, i was thinking of who the hell would care after i died. and at that point i really thought that no one would
and that ultimately no matter what i was killing myself for. they'd
feel sorry for me and regret the rest of their lives. i was so very
wrong.
that relates to my point of wanting attention. Even if it's your funeral, suicidal people are crazy attention. I remember when I was in junior high, I didn't think about killing myself exactly, but rather "what would happen if I died today? who would come to my funeral? what would the reaction of the kids at school be?" Stuff like that... anything that puts you at the forefront of people's minds.
But of course, there are hundreds of other ways of getting attention without requiring an undertaker.
sorry if I don't respond to everyone and everything. I understand that this is a delicate subject for many of us and just wanted to include this note to say that I mean no disrespect. _________________ GTX: Great Teacher Xeno... my daily blog about teaching in an elementary and middle school in Japan (see right-menu)
i agree here. exercise is one of the easiest and most readily available forms of stress release. you can do anything from simple jogs around you neighborhood to full blown sports games with friends/peers at your local gym or rec center. exercising will also help with your sleeping patterns, and that sore feeling in your legs after a good run or the weight in your arms after a hard swim let you know your body is still there and alive. i don't know about other people, but i relish those feelings. they comfort me when i feel my life is drifting apart from this world.
i hope you can find something to help yourself, lucifer.
Joined: Sep 09, 2006 Posts: 234 Location: In the realms of Final Destination
Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 1:27 pm Post subject:
ddogt i like that piano song of haruhi. it was nice..
anyway. Lucifer, another good way of relieving depression is meditation. simple breathing meditation is good enuff.
its been proven to relieve stress. and i can say so myself, that it helped me out of my depression.
i, myself at one point, was suicidal. i went to a doctor who prescribed me Zoloft. but after taking that medicine, i found myself even more suicidal. my thoughts of suicide flew through the roof. i remember staying up all night untill 430 a.m. wanting to runaway and kill myself. so i stopped taking that Zoloft and turned to meditation.
my suicidal thoughts had almost completely left me within a week of meditating. and now, 2 months later, i feel like i have reason to live.
Lucifer i felt the same way. something troubled me, and i thinking of ways to kill myself seemd to comfort me. but to tell the truth it is not healthy to do this. _________________ [IMG:192:154:5c8a51147b]http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n19/GiggityZZ/wall08_resize.jpg[/img:5c8a51147b]
The thing with saying that suicidal people are looking for attention deep down, is that for many teenage cases, that may very well be the cause... But depending on who you suggest the idea to, it may set them off, or at least have a detrimental effect. To some it's the equivalent of walking up to them on the railing of a bridge and saying "Oh you're just faking it."
My number one piece of advice, and the one thing that kept me alive through 3 years of solid depression, self-loathing, and loneliness... the one concept that's gotten me to the point where I'm finally on my way to getting my degree in psychology to become a counselor, feeling at peace, and a future, is simply this:
Don't be unhappy.
Contentment is key. After years of just wanting to viciously tear the faces off of 'friends' and 'family' telling me with happy smiles to "just cheer up!". In one of my many sleepless nights I finally realized that happiness is a farce. These happy people around me have no idea what I'm going through, and don't even care to know. Oh, sure, they may SAY they care, but they don't try to understand what it's like to feel so empty, so useless, so worthless as to feel that taking your own life will be an improvement to the world.
They won't try to understand that, because you know why? They won't be happy anymore! It's easy to cheer yourself up when you're already happy and ignorant to the hollowness and loneliness someone feels when suffering from depression. Happiness is blinding, it makes you stupid. Happiness is a bad thing, and keeps you self-centred and ignorant.
On the flip side, Unhappiness is also a bad thing, and just as pointless. The only true way to go is don't be happy, and most importantly don't be unhappy. Walk the line of contentment, between the two. Just go with the flow, and if you notice yourself being unhappy about something in particular, just confront it directly in your mind and dismiss it. Notice that it's pointless to be unhappy about something of which you have no control. There's nothing wrong with just Existing. It's actually a very relieving feeling.
After a few years, something better may come along. Like how I started going back to College/University. If you choose at some point to move on to the realm of happiness, I suppose that's your choice but I'm definitely going to keep my happiness in check, so that I may still remain close enough to who I used to be, so I am still able to understand and remember the worst years of my life.
So be content. Monitor your thoughts, and pick out the ones that only exist to make you unhappy, and stare them down. Happiness is overrated, and there's nothing wrong with just simply existing for the sake of existing. The people who care about you will be happy to have you around, and we all will as well. Thanks for coming to us with your feelings Lucifer.
Joined: Nov 29, 2004 Posts: 8365 Location: Futaba District, Fukushima Japan
Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:45 pm Post subject:
Zierlyn wrote:
The thing with saying that suicidal people are looking for attention deep down, is that for many teenage cases, that may very well be the cause... But depending on who you suggest the idea to, it may set them off, or at least have a detrimental effect. To some it's the equivalent of walking up to them on the railing of a bridge and saying "Oh you're just faking it."
that's where the difference lies though... cutting and pills is a cry for attention because most likely, it will not kill you. It'll be enough to get you hospitalized and thus attention. Jumping off a bridge or throwing yourself in front of a train is the kind of attempt that usually never fails. Remember, most people attempt or "get close" to suicide (ie, get the pills, get the vodka, then stare at it for an hour) at least two or three times before actually making a true attempt at harm. Someone who throws themself off a building DOES want to die, but those cases are different from your typical angsty hormonal teenager.
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Contentment is key. After years of just wanting to viciously tear the faces off of 'friends' and 'family' telling me with happy smiles to "just cheer up!".
oh man, so true. The WORST thing you can say to a depressed person is "cheer up." Oh, how I hate those words. It's just plain ignorance. People think depression is like any other mood that can (forgive the lame phrase) "be turned on and off like a light switch." The best thing a friend can do for a depressed person is just be a friend... even if that means sitting in the room and staring at the wall together.
I don't know how typical this is, but I used to "test" people by seeing how long they could stand being with someone who wasn't talking. Since humans are naturally selfish and, as I know now, those people were not true friends, I learned most people would rather leave and go find something else more entertaining. Sometimes, people make me sick, but, as Armblast from Kiddy Grade says, "to be selfish is to be human."
So though it's easiest to rely on others to change your mood, the fact is that you can't. People will only disappoint you... unless they really are a true friend, but chances are, they'll probably leave you. Sounds so emo, I know, but hey, most of my friendships only lasted a couple years, tops. In the end, it's up to you to change your own attitude.
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They won't try to understand that, because you know why? They won't be happy anymore!
the only people who can understand depression are those who've been through it. Depression is referred to as "the common cold of psychology." Probably 80% of the population, more females than males, will qualify to be diagnosed as clinically depressed (sadness amoung other symptoms for 2 weeks straight minimum), so it's definitely not rare. The trick is finding people who've already been through it since many have yet to do so.
Luckily there are many helpful people here who can share good advice and personal stories. _________________ GTX: Great Teacher Xeno... my daily blog about teaching in an elementary and middle school in Japan (see right-menu)
I've suffered from depression before... so kinda I have a list of such thing writeen down somewhere. And no, I don't think reading manga and watching anime is a available option. I think that even worsen your condition.
what I did:
1. Music
Particularly emotional music. Rock, metal, punk, techno, retro actually helps. It takes a load out of your mind.
2. Cycle
One of the few sports that isn't taxing on your body. Other sports help too like soccer and basketball.
3. UNREAL TOURNAMENT
the reason why it's still popular, mad endless killing helps... ALOT. other first player with cheats on works too.
Frankly, watching anime is a very bad idea... It makes me more emo.
well one thing i know that is true is
thinking how to live a life is difficult
but thinking how to die painlessly and in an eazy way is more difficult
i also have think about it for 4 years and haven't got the way
but i still thinking thre reason why i should be alive _________________ Haruhi: "Crab is a no-no. Picking the flesh out of the shell drives me nuts. Why crabs make their shells hard? How come they evolve like that?"
Kyon: That's why they evolved shells! They don't evolve in the sea just for the sake of your stomach!
Joined: May 28, 2006 Posts: 1289 Location: inside a cruel place called REALITY
Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 7:37 am Post subject:
i've been in hard times since i came into college and man, what pressure i had experienced... like reports, very difficult mathematics (and exams), parent's pressures and the such....
one and only thing that works for me: learn to let go... not of our own life, but our own problems.
like if i think i'm gonna fail a course (which really brings me to being close to being expelled by my college because of my grades) or some family problems, i just let go. Just doing my part, hoping tomorrow's a different day.
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