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subbergod
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 11:45 pm    Post subject: I'm Selling Anime-Source Reply with quote

God told me in a dream that I own anime-source. I didn't want it so I just put it on ebay.Anyone care to bid?

I am only posting this thread here and not in merchandise, as a curio.

Happy Bidding!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220163483083&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=012[/quote]
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ROFL.

I'm too scared to bid for that. Kaiser might appear at my front door with a bloody chainsaw and a hockey mask. =(
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But seriously, laws on rights to sell such things? What if someone actually buys it and sues you because they cannot make that claim to A-S or something?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

a-s is intellectual property so you can't sell it unless you have a proof of ownership...and the admins that pay server costs have receipts

dreams don't cut it; wanna settle this outta court or shall we counter sue for fraud?

law is useful hmmm....lol
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I say we do both, haha...

man, you are REALLY bored... go watch tv or something...
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

God himself gave me A-S. I damn well can sell it.

Anyways, read the description

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If you win this bid, you don't own the servers and that stuff, but you have the right to claim Anime-Source as your own, but I don't think you can really do anything with it. Leave that to managment.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, but about said intellectual property?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ah, but about said intellectual property?


Anime-Source has Manga that they did not pay for uploaded on their site. What about that intellectual property?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look down on the bottom of the webpage. It says what rights A-S reserves.

If you have a bone to pick with the manga uploaded, you will clearly see that "All images and comments are property of their respective owners." A-S clearly does not claim ownership of them (unlike you claiming ownership of A-S). Plus, we're not selling it for profit (such as what you are doing). And we remove licensed material.

A-S owns everything afterwards, which is why A-S is considered intellectual property.

Technically though, you haven't infringed upon any laws because a transaction has not yet occurred (saying what you want is protected by your first amendment and my charter of rights and freedoms), but if it did and someone does claim A-S as their own using your Ebay receipt (contract), they could file ownership suits with A-S...which would no doubt be negotiated with out barristers that they have absolutely no case against A-S because you had no right to sell; in which case the suit would be directed at you, for falsely claiming and selling something that didn't belong to you. A-S can also sue for you using it's name (goodwill) without permission from its owners permission.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^;

Fission, deep breaths, man.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fission2 wrote:
Technically though, you haven't infringed upon any laws because a transaction has not yet occurred (saying what you want is protected by your first amendment and my charter of rights and freedoms),

ugh, I hate when people claim "the First Amendment gives people the right to say anything." That's not true at all... it's the right to say what they want about the government, not about private individuals and companies (slander/libel).

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but if it did and someone does claim A-S as their own using your Ebay receipt (contract), they could file ownership suits with A-S...which would no doubt be negotiated with out barristers that they have absolutely no case against A-S because you had no right to sell; in which case the suit would be directed at you, for falsely claiming and selling something that didn't belong to you. A-S can also sue for you using it's name (goodwill) without permission from its owners permission.

oh ok, at first I thought you were going somewhere else with this argument, but yeah, if someone is selling something that doesn't even belong to them, the case would be against the individual who hosted the auction.

Stupid eBay, don't they check these new listings for absurdity like this?

it's bad enough we find people stealing our reviews (oh well, at least I got credit still in the two instances I found this week) >_____>
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 4:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

True xeno, but did subber really commit libel in this case? I mean...claiming ownership of A-S - does it really defame A-S in anyway? There won't be any charges unless there's evidence of harm to A-S's reputation...which I don't think occurred. He should still be protected under the first amendment because what he wrote didn't discredit A-S rep.

Great, we have more people stealing our reviews. Traffic's never been better.

Maybe we should sell the rights to our reviews >=D
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

xenocrisis0153 wrote:
it's bad enough we find people stealing our reviews (oh well, at least I got credit still in the two instances I found this week) >_____>


Eh? Our reviews have been getting stolen?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Anime-Source has Manga that they did not pay for uploaded on their site. What about that intellectual property?

They aint intellectual property.

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ugh, I hate when people claim "the First Amendment gives people the right to say anything." That's not true at all... it's the right to say what they want about the government, not about private individuals and companies (slander/libel).

In my country, if we'll probably drew a funny comic about our president, we'll be silenced and erased. (we dun have free speech)

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it's bad enough we find people stealing our reviews (oh well, at least I got credit still in the two instances I found this week) >_____>

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If you have a bone to pick with the manga uploaded, you will clearly see that "All images and comments are property of their respective owners."


It dosen't matter if you give credit to where it came from. That's like giving out pirated software under the claim that you are giving it away free, and that you didn't claim it as yours. reality check: It's still copyrighted matirial, and if the manga industry really wanted to, they could crush you like a bug.

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That's not true at all... it's the right to say what they want about the government, not about private individuals and companies (slander/libel).


First of all, I am a dual citizen. I have an official citizenship with switzerland. My ebay account is connected to my bank account in Zurich, so I am well within my rights.

Number 2: I'm not claiming that I made Anime-Source, I am just selling it. Also I have religous privledges. God told me A-S was mine. My religon says I own it. Freedom of religon.

Finally, you DO make a profit. you get money from ads. Mabey they are to pay for servers and maintain the site. Well, I'm not selling it for profit either. If someone buys it, I will donate all the money to the maintenence of A-S. So there.
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