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Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children
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Doggiez
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't like the leather thing too much. The charaters desings were great they look perfectly fine to me especially yuffie she look very funny in ff7. I wouldn't call it the best movie either. becasue we have to look at the storyline and it was pretty shaky. such strong characters and weak villains i don't think it would be really good except the introduction of sephroph. To crunch everything in this movie, characters,limits and villians they could of have done better.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

uh huh...then, out of pure curiousity, how should this movie be better than it already is?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the graphics is cool and the story line is good
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i just watched this movie like a week or 2 ago~! and i had no comprehenshion of the game's storyline....but i was able to understand watching the movie...and of course with my friend explaining wtf was happening the whole step of the way..lol.

anyways i thought it was average. not the greatest but decent. the fights were kewl....but the motor cycle fight in the tunnel was just too fake. u c the bad guys like fall off their bikes....and they're like flying in the air....fighting for 10 min....then the bikes just magically catch them again....when the bikes crashed like 10 min. ago!!..lol..i know i'm exageratin but u know wat i mean~! but yea..the movie was ok~! ..better than appleseed anyways~!
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tee Hee I guess you're rite part the motor fight. Is just too over unreal and that why is called Final Fantasy.. thing that you can't imagined.. hahaha don't mind me...

FF VII AC is very good on graphic and figthing but a little weak on the story.. is not like not good at all but slightly a bit dissapointed because I can't see magics much on AC.. and the story kinda meaningless.

Overall is still the best movies I watched for this year...
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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FF VII AC is very good on graphic and figthing but a little weak on the story.. is not like not good at all but slightly a bit dissapointed because I can't see magics much on AC.. and the story kinda meaningless.


you know, this sort of thing implies to many that you haven't played the game at all, which explains your complications with the story and utter disappreciation for the movie as a whole
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well i think movies should clarify or be more simplistic for those who don't follow up on the game or series. cuz it is a movie afterall, something NEW with a diff. setting. but yea i never played the game...cuz well i'm not a game addict, but i still understood the story..i didn't think it was that hard to comprehend.

and even though it's called final FANTASY, that motor scene is still just too unrealistic. i mean there's a fine line between make believe and just too extreme in a more realistic setting.

my friend thought as well that the ending was too...well gay... like when the protagonist's friends is like tossing him towards the dragon......i mean that was kinda corny...especially when he was "flying" to defeat the dragon he left his friends that were on the gound..it's like how the f*** did they get pass him to toss him up higher and higher?!!..lol.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kaykay wrote:
well i think movies should clarify or be more simplistic for those who don't follow up on the game or series. cuz it is a movie afterall, something NEW with a diff. setting. but yea i never played the game...cuz well i'm not a game addict, but i still understood the story..i didn't think it was that hard to comprehend.


I don't believe that movies have to appeal to the masses. I believe this was a movie made for the long standing fans of FFVII more than anything else. Sure, you can understand the story of the movie and whatnot, but it just won't have as much impact with you given that you haven't played the game. You haven't spent 40+ hours learning about the characters and their personalities, strengths and weaknesses. You haven't shared in their times of happiness, sadness and anger. Trust me, if you played the game BEFORE you watched the movie, you would have gotten a LOT more out of it.

As for your views on the motorcycle battle and the Cloud vs Bahamut (dragon) battle, I can't really argue that one given that it's your opinion. I personally enjoyed the Cloud v Bahamut battle. As for the motorcycle scene, it was probably one of the less interesting action sequences in the movie, so I'm going to agree with you there.

Oh, and sometimes, it's okay to just disband "reality" altogether. One of the main draws of final fantasy is for one to escape from "reality" (hence the reason why it's such a good gaming franchise).
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well i'll have to agree with u on how fans who have played the game probably enjoyed the movie more and most likely impaced them more than a person who hasn't played the game. but even if i did play the game...i probably wouldn't watch any of the storyline info...cuz i dunno..games are for playing....it's not a story book u know~?! i dunno i just get bored when there's talking..i rather just turn on the game..go in blindly and play~!

the fight scene i did like was that one...ok i suck @ remembering names...but with cloud's like best friend (girl) vs. one of the evil guys with that electric shock thing on his arm. it was the battle where all the flowers were surrounding them..i dunno i really like that scene...and that part when the guy's cell phone rang was funny.....yes even though i didn't play the game i got the inside joke there..lol.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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but even if i did play the game...i probably wouldn't watch any of the storyline info...cuz i dunno..games are for playing....it's not a story book u know~?!


then you obviously don't know anything about RPGs

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i dunno i just get bored when there's talking..i rather just turn on the game..go in blindly and play~!


no offense, but this statement implies and compels me to believe that your taste in games is dim and horrible at best
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well i can't really argue against ur opinion. it's just that games are for playing...sure maybe some dialog here and there....but when there's like 15 min. of just straight talking...it's like y don't u just watch the anime series instead?

in my opinion watching ppl talk and move about is like television....but if u want to play a character and go into battle or what not, well that's y there's games.

i tried playing an older final fantasy game @ my friend's house...and i seriously went through hours of just talking. ok sure i got to kill something......but it selected the villian for u and all i had to press was a single button in order to kill the creature. not really wat i call a game.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dont mind cut scenes in games. who's to say that movies and video games should be two entirely different things. but i like how Half Life integrated cut scenes into the game so that the flow of the game and the notion of the 'game world' wasnt interupted by a clumsy cut scene. Patience :]

Advent Children, to put it nicely, was not my type of movie. the action scenes werent bad but that was all i felt the movie had to offer. i didnt understand why things happened. i mean i could understand that event A led to event B etc but what for? maybe i had to play the games. but a movie should deal with issues, situations and concepts which appeal to a broad range of people. Advent Children is a weaker movie for assuming knowledge and experience with the FF games as a premise for understanding and emotional connection.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

quosimos: The movie wasn't excatly made for people who haven't played the game, this was more or less just made for the fans so it's easy to understad that most people who haven't played the game will experiance it diffrently. Let me put it this way then, fans of the game have been wanting a sequal ever since FFVII came out and more or less been screaming for in almost a decade (A freakin decade!), hell how many do you think went "OMFG!!!" when they say the Intro too FFVII in ps3 grapics? So simply put it was made for the fans that have wanted this for so long, granted we wanted a game and they made a movie insteed but Im just happy it came.
Since they're not aiming for people who haven't played the game so saying it weaker because of that is just complaining. If they tried to make it and aim it at everyone even people who haven't played the game and it turned out like this then yeah complaining is in the right order.
Example someone makes a movie aimed for children, I go and watch it and say it's childish and stupid. It's the same thing since they're not aiming to please people like me and it's not really fair to call something weak just because of that.
And it's like some people said how in the hell are they supposed to cram in 40hours - say 20hours (for fighting etc) information into a movie that's only 1 hour and 40 minutes long?
If it wasn't for the fact that I alredy have all that background information etc then the things I'd like the most would have been. 1: The CG in the movie is just so great. 2: The action was nice and fast 3: The music.
And the thing that would have bothered me the most... I don't know but I can say right now I wish they had more fighting scenes with the other characters.

The things that this movie has to offer people who's played the game. Find out what happened afterwards. Some fanservice in seeing all the characters again and action that's pretty much it, mostly action.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow thanks i appreciate the effort you put into a reply. youre right. in a way its not a weaker movie for appealing to a niche audience in the eyes of that audience. but it is still flawed if it mines its message from some vein of esoteric knowledge. simplistic films which appeal to children are weak because they have no depth. why do Harry Potter novels appeal to both adults and children? i think it is because Rowling deals which issues which have universal appeal, which are not unique to Harry's world, or my world, or your world. just one minor example - Mudbloods and racism.
anyway, i wasnt wowed by the CGI or particularly thrilled by the action scenes. and i guess my music tastes are just different. so its kinda just a matter of perspective, in a way.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the movie is good and theres a fight like EVERY 10 mins OMG man.... the ending was cool though
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