Allison to Lillia

[kevinchaosvs]

[Burgundy]

episode 4 reminds me of that movie that suddenly somehow stopped in the middle with a "because of budget issues we had to cut it here, bye bye".

the dogfighting, the painting, and the very weird shooting in that cave was a big "WHAT THE HELL!?". And with the war ending out of nowhere it was kinda stupid by a large scale.

However.....

Even though episode 4 just ruined the whole anime i'll give it one more chance, they better pull out a good excuse for episode 4.

[kevinchaosvs]

[Burgundy]

both yes and no, i should have pointed it out more clearly.

oh well....

[Plekto]

This anime has a very specific feel to it - like a Miyazaki movie. Either it resonates with you or it just doesn't at all. It's sure to be a classic, IMO, but it's not trying at all to appeal to a wide audience while doing it.

I personally find it to be a welcome change in style and story over the typical lewd and over the top crud that seems to spill out of the various studios. Yes, there are some things that aren't perfect, but it's plainly about the story and not about the technical details.

Though, them both being shot down and having to team up to survive, followed by a several episode chase through the forests and mountains would have been much better.

We'll see how it develops. He's obviously at some sort of military academy and close to graduation. I'm sure the peace won't last or they'll be assigned to the same unit or something.

[tabz]

oh hell no.. pls dont even compare this to miyazaki's works or ghibli...

maybe in a pre ghibli setup like world masterpiece theatre,.. but not ghibli... the flight scenes cant even compare with Nausicaa or Porco Rosso, as old as those titles were... the scene shots were pretty amateurish imo. and the story telling part meh... o wait maybe just one, the flop of a film that was directed by Miyazaki's son... the film that has undone ghibli's name.. yes, this might be something like a Goro Miyazaki's work
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[Plekto]

Heh. It's not *that* bad. Bad is something like Kanokon. But stylistically, it does look like they are copying the same sort of look you got in earlier Ghibli films. Or someone who works or worked for him is doing the coloring.

Give it time. With two seasons of material to go, it's going to probably do quite well. But it's obviously not a flashy magic and combat type world. I can think of a lot of good shows that started slow.

Oh... Lillia is the second girl that the Captain finds/hooks up with, based upon the bits I can gather from the Japanese site(we see her briefly in the credits) I suspect it is going to end up being a slice of life/adventures type show about the four of them with some plot thrown in. It's going to be slow and complex and more like a typical novel written in the U.S. or Europe. It feels like someone from outside Japan is doing the scripts, and if that is true, it bodes well. It certainly doesn't have a typical Japanese feel to it.

Yes the paint balls were lame and the writers know nothing about military combat by the looks of it(it's passable in that light I guess - the "combat" is obviously filler), but it's only one episode. Most shows have at least a few bad ones. Oh, and the main plot isn't about the war ending, obviously, despite what the synopsis here says. There's still 50+ episodes left.

P.S. this isn't my favorite series. I just think in the long run it will be seen as a good series. Itazura na Kiss is the best thing this season, without a doubt. There's nothing bad about it, and the guy being a jerk is actually refreshing for a change, because we all knew stuck up people like that growing up.

(I'm personally sick of seeing guys lose their spines over women and having nosebleeds every ten seconds. People acting like people is much more enjoyable to watch.)

[Burgundy]

Now that you mention it, it was the female lead's personality that made me watch this show, guess we can scratch the quite short war adventure as a sideshow alá parody.

Want to see how Allison's bold and reckless nature fare off in normal life anyway. I'm kinda sick of the typical way femlae leads are in the animes, so this one is atleast at a better level in that regard.

And yes can only agree on the script must have been from outside Japan, it feels like a classical western novel movie at that point.

Itzazura na kiss is indeed possibly the best love/comedy for this spring, though the male lead being a total jerk is indeed refreshing, however the female lead has the "typical anime girl" over it but the show is hilarious so it doesn't really matter there heh.

I'll continue following Allison and Lillia, since i just love Allison's personality, strong willed, bold, reckless, and dominant. You rarely see those female leads in japanese animes.

[tabz]

[Plekto]

Still, that normal studios are approaching the polished look of even earlier animated movies is really great. It has a movie look to it, which is a sign that someone is taking their time on it.(as opposed to some series that hardly even draw faces lately)

A couple of comments.

- I also really like the girl(s). The story appears to be about the adventures that the two girls have and that the men in their lives end up being drug into.(heh)

The entire first four episodes are clearly filler to set up their meeting and going on their first adventure together, and not some WWI era Gundam or war drama type of thing. My educated guess is that it's all about their adventures together and about them being a kind of a catalyst to those around them.

The real background plot, which likely deals with their parents and so on(I hope it isn't something lame) will come much later I bet.

[Burgundy]

It's a niché anime, certainly not made for everyone...

This kind of the female lead is alot more different than other animes with strong female leads, it's basically a western girl personality Allison carries, also of the current animes running i haven't seen manyof the kind, the others i could think of have already ended and might come back with another season sometime in fall.

But i'm always open to recommendations. =)


The art in Allison and Lillia is more artistic than animation tech superiority. It mixes well with what timeline we are suppose to think it's running in. Though Wolf and Spice art and animation is better, it's the same deal, there art is different from mainstream and feels more "oldish".

There are timeless animes, which carry on an art which might seem outdated or has become it(because it's old) but because of it's timeline it actually only makes it stronger. There are ofcourse exceptions and since it's too early to say, i probably shouldn't be praising A & L to a title of timeless just yet.

Only time will tell.

[kevinchaosvs]

[Plekto]

I hope that it's about them and doesn't turn into Last Exile 2.0 either.

I just finished watching the 5th episode and it looks like my suspicions are confirmed as far as it being about their adventures together with some artistic military bits thrown in for effect.

I personally love the slightly over-saturated look and the way it's being written. It's different and as Burgundy pointed out, it has a sort of timeless feel to it, so I think it will wear well/stand the test of time as long as the plot and pace remains as strong as it has so far. The studio doing this has a history of sometimes punking out in the last ten episodes, so I hope they don't do that.

It's kind of like when you first started watching Wolf's Rain - it was sort of slow and didn't make sense for a long time. But I get this feeling that it will be a noteworthy anime. And, honestly, I like anime like this a lot more than the typical schoolboy fluff. It feels a lot more mature from an art and production standpoint. I've always noticed that as nice as the visuals and technology and so on are in Japanese anime, it's almost always not as well put together as it should be. There are exceptions, like Cowboy Bebop, which had a completely non conformist feel to it and wears well as a result, but that's the exception. Hopefully we get more stories like this in the future.

[tabz]

no matter how great the story was on print i fail to see it in this production.

i wont comment on what you think were the best examples of whatever coz frankly they are far from what i thought were the exceptional classics for refference. it may be just the case that i have seen more than i should that i cant get into this kind of show anymore. everything nowadays seems substandard.. for an anime, its always about visual impact, if it doesnt holdup to what the book had imagined then it is a fail.

most animes of past arent all about these schoolboy sht you have gotten used to, i guess this is teh so called generation gap. i can only summize some of you just gotten into this during early 2000 or so. thats around the time that highschool animes became generic. so icant really blame ya, if this show is something new and refreshing for you then i cant argue with that. all im saying is that if the story is really good, then they could have done a better job fleshing it put even with the limitations of budget. the direction and planning of scenes have been too amateureish for my taste, as were the characters interactions.
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