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siopawman
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:30 pm    Post subject: can't pinpoint the vizards and espadas Reply with quote

well, from what i can tell, some of those good shinigamis became vizards. but were there shinigami's that became arrancar?

confused...
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vizard : Shinigami who crossed the borders to attain the powers of Hollow
Arrancar : The reverse; Hollow who obtained the powers of Shinigami.

So the answer is no. Since you start out as a Shinigami, you'll just end up (and can only end up) a Vizard.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

woah! even Urahara knew Aizen was the culprit??! I thought he didn't know back then..

is it possible that Aizen will use his hypnotism to make some people forget what happened? or mabe frame Urahara?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

eyesotope wrote:
is it possible that Aizen will use his hypnotism to make some people forget what happened? or mabe frame Urahara?
I think he'll frame Urahara . Thats how he got kicked out, I guess. Creating the Hougyoku was just part of the reason.

Now, my guess is he suspected Aizen long before even Hirako, and has prepared the "antidote"(Hougyoku) long before then. I mean, judging from the situation, I doubt he has the time to create th cure on the spot when the pre-Vizard bunch were on rampage.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if they accuse Urahara of this 100 years ago they should have seriously apologized to him after Aizen pulled off what he did back when Rukia was about to be executed..

also shouldn't have Urahara given them a heads-up about who their enemy was before sending them to soul society?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 6:27 am    Post subject: still not fit... Reply with quote

if aizen's bankai is ultimate hypnosis, does it mean vizards won't be able to resist it? even if they already crossed over? (meaning they are already shinigami+hollow).

is there a way to break his hypnosis?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

here the way to break the hypnosis: http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/315.02/18/
Shinji just grabbed it and shattered it with one hand (...), whether this is still applicable on current day Aizen remains to be seen..
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, they've introduced the cast...all thats left is when will Ichigo's dad gonna enter the story Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So all the captains have appeared? where could Isshin be this long ago?? Maybe he did not existed in that era? Or he is like Ichigo...a replacement Shinigami?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dont think he's a replacement Shinigami. When he first appeared (in Shinigami form), I rmbr that he had some tattered whie cloth around him that seem to resemble the Captain's cloak.
Anyway, I was speculating that the Kurosaki clan might be one of the four noble clans.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's gotta be somethin more, if Urahara was framed by Aizen, i don't think the Gotei 13 would only kicked him out of Soul Society, i mean there was captains and shinigamis that were killed. Rukia was about to be executed for giving up her power to Ichigo .... Maybe Urahara manage to save and escape with everyone that was at the scene and Aizen made an illusion so that everyone would beleive his story. Then again, for the last 100 years why didn't Soul Society chase evreyone in the real world, hek they chased after Rukia. The whole thing still don't fit.

Have any one notice that Tousen had a ''mask'' like an Arrancar WTF ?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cloud79 wrote:
Have any one notice that Tousen had a ''mask'' like an Arrancar WTF ?
haha yeah, when I first saw that scene I actually thought he was actually a Vizard, then rmbr that Aizen failed in the HollowXShinigami experiments, thus cant be a Vizard Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

solidsnakex wrote:
So all the captains have appeared? where could Isshin be this long ago?? Maybe he did not existed in that era? Or he is like Ichigo...a replacement Shinigami?


some theories predict that Ichigo's dad might have been a member of squad zero (the royal guard squad)

and the new chapter is out and...
Aizen vs Urahara ends abruptly (and rather disappointingly).. also it seems correct that Uraahara wasn't the only one to make an item that breaks the shinigami/hollow bounds..
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

woot I was right after all ( well partially...)
the part as said in my previous post about him having created Hougyoku Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, I just read your old post and looks like you were right on the money.. Very Happy
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