Cowboy Bebop

fresh_no_concept · Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 8:39 pm Post subject:

Haha, nice on the pickup of songs. For some of the ones you missed...

My Funny Valentine (Rod Stewart)
Speak Like a Child (Style Council (no clue who they are though...)
Brain Scratch (Scratching is a technique used by DJ's to make that "wok-wokka" sound)
Hard Luck Woman (KISS)

Still lost on Pierrot Le Fou

Hitome11 · newbie! Joined: Sep 22, 2005 Posts: 11

Thanks for the references. Smile

Now if we could only figure out Pierrot Le Fou. In French it means Pierrot the crazy one. It is definitely not a reference to music in general.

I can't belive I forgot, but Toys in the Attic is also a reference to a song by Aerosmith. I remembered the Pink Floyd reference because it is a line in one of the songs ("The Trial" I think) on The Wall. Since it is also the title of a song by Aerosmith that means that that episode has at least two references Cool

strongbad87 · Yari Ashigaru Joined: Jul 25, 2005 Posts: 293

If you go to the real folk blues website, they have a really comprehensive list of all the title references, they also have different music/movies/pop culture references throughout the show.
I Love love love love cowboy bebop, its one of my favorite things, just putting that out there.

fresh_no_concept · Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:58 pm Post subject:

For those that don't want to actually search for that site, I did the work for you...

http://rfblues.aaanime.net/

All of Cowboy Bebop's influences can be found there. And oh are there a LOT of them.

strongbad87 · Yari Ashigaru Joined: Jul 25, 2005 Posts: 293

yup the show is a big mish mosh of everything pop culture, and almost all of it is American pop culture, with very few Japanese references, that's why the show was so accessible to Americans, plus the music was amazing.

Drykk · newbie! Joined: Oct 11, 2005 Posts: 11

The best thing about Bebop was the sound tracks. Very catch blues songs with that Japan influance.

azndudeguy · newbie! Joined: Oct 02, 2005 Posts: 49

Yoko Kanno is very good with music.

Drykk · newbie! Joined: Oct 11, 2005 Posts: 11

Cazz_the_King · newbie! Joined: Oct 14, 2005 Posts: 3

Cowboy_Bebop · Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 12:28 pm Post subject: Cowboy Bebop

Is the Best Anime i saw Very Happy

hnemesis · Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 8:38 pm Post subject:

i prefer samurai champloo, better ending Wink

toriyama · Heimin (Commoner) Joined: Jun 09, 2005 Posts: 51

yea i was just as pissed as everybody else but my man spike died i watched the entire series and got pissed everytime he died
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cuco81 · Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 3:47 am Post subject:

Cowboy beebop was great. And the move was also great. I have nothing bad this say about this.

Martin_G · Heimin (Commoner) Joined: Nov 17, 2006 Posts: 53

I recently went and watched this show again and I was somewhat surprised that I had not picked up on why spike needed to die to make the story complete.

Obviously the reason is because of Vicious, but the story only very briefly hints at the details. Basically Spike and Vicious were trusted friends, perhaps even brothers. Julia was Vicious' lover, but Spike falls in love with her, and they have an affair together. Spike is the guilty adulteror here and decides that the only chance for happiness for him and Julia is to flee. Of course, Vicious finds out about it all and offers Julia the chance of repentance by way of killing spike. Despite Julia's disloyal past, in the end she sticks with Spike and chooses to risk Vicious' vengence.

Although we are led to believe that Vicious is a kind of stereotypical bad guy with no conscience, really, he is judged too harshly if you don't look at things from his perspective. There seems to be some evidence that he wasn't always so cold hearted, but like many men whose love betrays them, he became bitter, and probably earned his namesake after that.

So spike had to die because he deserved it for betraying his best friend. Vicious had to die because he stopped caring and became corrupt.

this is certainly elaboration compared to what is explained in the anime, but it's not mere speculation because there is a bit evidence for every plot point mentioned; though it is often only a brief unnnarrated scene that doesn't last long. I got the impression that the writers didn't want to focus too much on the love triangle aspect of the plot, which I agree was a good decision since it is very clishe.

Still, it is too bad about spike the roamer(io) & Julia(et).