Samurai 7

Yebyosh · Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 12:24 am Post subject:

It is a recap but a 100% full of slices of rememberances.

Basically it is an episode where the characters self-examine their motives and evolution ( which brings about short periods of flashbacks ). The end result being 50% flashback, 50% character development ( how well it does it is up to your interpretation ).

From what I watched of episode 19, I can say that Gonzo is doing a good job so far. Looks like they can do a good adaptation of movies ( which is good, considering their way, way terrible record on manga adaptations ).

Bemi · newbie! Joined: Jul 06, 2004 Posts: 15

does any one have problem download ep 17 from IY ?
Mine says something like the Downloader existed unexpectedly

TheDeceiver · Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 5:34 pm Post subject:

If so... i suggest going on their IRC channel and wling it off one of their bots (y) : D

Soichiro-kunn · Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 6:32 pm Post subject:

TheDeceiver · Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 5:25 am Post subject:

ep1 5 out

pretty great ep Twisted Evil

DECEPTION

but who?!!?
and finally kyuzou confesses his love for sumone Very Happy

>.>

xzomega · newbie! Joined: Dec 05, 2004 Posts: 12

Donno if it's ok to post links from other fansub groups...so i'll just mention the name Smile

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My group, Katana-Fansubs is doing S7 rite now, the subs are in ssa format, not that fancy, but still very good. We're releasing 21 soon...so wanna go check it out sometime?

AlDim · Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 1:42 am Post subject:

A continuation of the discussion started in the Gantz thread:

Yebyosh · Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 2:48 am Post subject:

Yes, it is true that Akira Kurosawa's The Seven Samurai is a masterpiece. I am still hunting for the "perfect" version of the DVD to possess for it and hesitate to settle for anything less just because of how I prize the quality of that movie of his.

In the transition of it to another form of media, transformed into another setting, ( the feudal medieval period of the film is unseen here but a post-apocalyptic scientifically advanced yet retrograded world is evident ) and with a decidedly different production team and potential audience, to copy the exact essence of Seven Samurai would be impossible or undesirable.

If they wanted an animation of the movie, they would be wasting money on just tracing out the whole movie cells and colouring them in. Since they are drawing up something new, they would be choosing which themes to copy upon, what to modify and what to preserve ( as a tribute or necessary quotion ). With their audience being primary of otaku nature ( it is shown over on a pay-per-view channel ) as well as the media, the nature of presentation would be targeted towards this section ( note that even Anno did this for Evangelion, the first half of the show is seen to be evocative of the otaku's glee ).

So what we have is an animation entitled Samurai 7 sharing some common details with that masterpiece movie. It is however different enough from the movie that if you ignore the title, a different story is soon seen into light from the various hints and it is fully evident in episodes 16 onwards.

It is this story that is proving to me something else of Samurai 7, that it is more apt to compare on its own standing than to constantly remind yourself of and comparing it to the marvelous Takashi Shimura, Toshirô Mifune, Yoshio Inaba, Seiji Miyaguchi, Minoru Chiaki and gang.

AlDim · Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 12:49 pm Post subject:

Yeb, my point isn't that they should have adapted Seven Samurai differently. It's that Samurai 7 shouldn't have been made at all Smile

About Evangelion - it isn't a good example since it is not based on a previous work.
A bit off topic - I think that the "otaku nature" you're talking about is exactly what made Eva successful, since there's nothing as fun as screwing up a bunch of chars that have been involved mostly in teen mecha comedy throughout 2/3 of the show. For what I've seen many of the highest rated anime shows (KGNE, Full Moon wo Sagashite, etc.) are exactly ones that start out easy going and then go for psychological drama - for some reason this tends to click with the fans, no matter how soapy and stupid it usually is. Imo this downfall of characters itself has become too much of a standard lately (sometimes even a genre requirement!) and is rarely done well. In other words it has become a part of "otaku nature"...
That's not really related to what we were talking about though Smile

Yebyosh · Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 1:51 pm Post subject:

Yeah, Evangelion is a bad example. The template is different as you stated ( original vs adaptation ).

My objective was however to state that the adaptation of the film to a different market ( mass consumers -> otakus ) meant that there has to be changes ( maybe drastic even ).

I understand that your stance of "Seven Samurai is perfect ( or near that). It needs sacriledge like a balloon needs a pinprick!" Very Happy

In fact, I am partial to it.

But for me as well, Samurai-7 is just a poor copy of Seven Samurai but a good anime show ( at the moment of speaking ). To me, it still stayed quite far from crossing over the threshold into sacriledge for the moment. Turning it into a "Super Samurai Power Level 2, AHHHHHHHHHHHH" fights all the way thingee or such would have me screaming then.

Ecnerwal · Heimin (Commoner) Joined: May 23, 2004 Posts: 56

Hello All,

I'm kinda new to this forum though i've been downloading for sometime. Rolling Eyes

Samurai 7 was kind of interesting in the beginning. Good storyline, though slightly predictable. However the recent few episodes with Flashbacks and such is .. kind of too slow? The "kick" that you get from the earlier episodes with Kyuuzo and Kanbei in the earlier episodes were cool.

Wonder if the artists of the characters actually researched on samurai techniques because some of them looks like real sword fight techniques.

Maybe Samurai 7 doesn't want to totally copy Seven Samurai but just the initial plot where the 7 Rice Gods protects the village. HOW and WHEN the storyline depicts doesn't matter.

Music is good though.

chingu · Yari Ashigaru Joined: Jun 27, 2004 Posts: 349

lol, I think I missed out on episode 17. Didn't download it, didn't watch it. Watched episode 18, though.

Don't know anything about Samurai 7's background, but I'm still enjoying it.

EMP666 · Heimin (Commoner) Joined: Dec 25, 2004 Posts: 59

well the show seemed interesting at first but it turned out to be quite a disapointment to me, don't get me wrong its okee but doesn't get my blood pumping quite hard enuf to call it a class-A anime

Ecnerwal · Heimin (Commoner) Joined: May 23, 2004 Posts: 56

True it's not exactly class-A anime .. however amongst so many this is still quite watchable.

Anyways .. mind i ask any ideas how come it's kinda slow lately?

Sionefayth · Heimin (Commoner) Joined: Dec 05, 2004 Posts: 99