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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2005 8:19 pm    Post subject: Rating Scroing System Reply with quote

I am not sure if the scoring system for the rating that is review dependant gives any points for the number of reviews being written. It's my opinion though that a popular anime who gets reviwed by 100 reviewers and ends up with an average of 8, deserves a higher rating than an anime with 20 reviewers that gave it an average of 8.

The 100 reviews tell me that that first anime is good enough to have so many people watch it and feel compelled to write a review. Basically, I think the rating score system should include bonuses to the raw score for an anime getting more and more reviews.
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a minimum number of reviews to be on the top 50. Beyond that, it's up to the people. It's an average rating... if 100 people beleive it's worth an 8, maybe it's because it is worth an 8... Giving it might push very rewarding, but less popular show, a chance to go in the top 50 and be noticed by other users. Seeing AIR TV in the top 10 made me want to watch it.
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 1:35 pm    Post subject: The problem... Reply with quote

But is that what reviews are all about? Advertisment... or is it a rating system. If it is advertisment then lets label it that, but if it is reviews and ratings of anime then lets do that as well.

Again, the reason why I state the idea is that you pick up a mediocre anime... it gets 15 reviews all saying 8,9,10. Goes to the top 50 and starts to compete with the super popular and great anime that has 100 reviews ranging from 2 to 10.

Is that truly fair. Are we saying that they are really equal. Even if you take statistical science, you will understand that for a population beneath 30, the curve of statistic is different than the population above 30. (Talking about F curve vs T curve to determine if a hypothosis is true or not.) Alright, alright, I might be starting to hurt someone's head here.
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Umm... people write reviews so other people can read them and decide if they want to watch the show or not.... so yes, in a way it's advertising. If you think an anime that you've seen is mediocre and it's on our top 50 list, write a review for it and give it w/e score you think it deserves and it will get bumped down/off the list.

BTW, I'm going to take a wild guess here and say that you're a Naruto fan, right?
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 3:22 pm    Post subject: Naruto Fan.. Reply with quote

You misunderstand me... naruto is a good example because i look at it and see broad broad range for it with over 100 reviews... then i see it on the review list below something like Juuni Kokki and 1 or 2 above Samurai 7.

I start wondering... is the system working...

I had watched Card Capture Sakura till half way. After that I couldn't stomach it... I wrote a review and basically was told that my review would not be placed because I only watched it half way. Now I am not offended by that, that's perfectly acceptable, but in my head I was thinking... so if 50 people couldn't stomach the anime to watch it fully, and thus couldn't write a review on it that is acceptable, then only people who like the anime will watch it all the way to the end.... is that a fair judgment of the anime then, because only those who liked it at least somewhat will be able to get a review in. How will the scores ever be correct.
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 3:32 pm    Post subject: Re: The problem... Reply with quote

Eehh, that's the point of "rating" something isn't it ? Giving your opinion on the show. Look at Hajime No Hipo 26 reviews average 9.96/10 ... That's damn good.

Popularity is one thing, quality is another. To ensure a show can be in the top 50, it has to have a minimum number of reviews, which is 10 I think. Other then that, it's up for grab. If a show has many reviews, chances are it will be in the popularity top 50.

Same goes for the movies all around the world.

Kung Fu Hustle is rated 90 % with 96 reviews (Rotten Tomatoes).
Star Wars is rated 83 % with 208 reviews (Rotten Tomatoes).

Have you seen the movie Double Dare ? It's rated 97 % at Rotten Tomatoes with 32 reviews, sitting proudly has the #3 movie of 2005.

Best movie of 2004 is Twilight Samurai, a japanese movie.
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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then i see it on the review list below something like Juuni Kokki


So in you opinion Naruto is better then Juuni Kokki? In my opinion Naruto doesn't deserve to be mentioned on the same list as Juuni Kokki, so hence, the system works.

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After that I couldn't stomach it... I wrote a review and basically was told that my review would not be placed because I only watched it half way.


At least watch most of the show before giving it a review... Plenty shows do 180 degree turns towards the end so yes, if you don't bother giving the show a fair chance then don't bother writing a review for it. It's disrespectful to the creator as well as the fans of the show. Oh and yes, I am aware that it's a 70 episode long anime.

From what I gather, you're just pissed off that our top 50 list isn't the same as yours. Well I got news flash for you buddy, different people have different tastes in anime and things that you might consider good, other might consider trash. I would love to see Berserk be in the top 10 but since there are a lot of people out there who don’t like it, there’s not much I can do about it. Bottom line is, suck it up and deal with it. The world doesn’t revolve around you.
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 4:07 pm    Post subject: Thanks.. Reply with quote

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then i see it on the review list below something like Juuni Kokki


So in you opinion Naruto is better then Juuni Kokki? In my opinion Naruto doesn't deserve to be mentioned on the same list as Juuni Kokki, so hence, the system works.

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After that I couldn't stomach it... I wrote a review and basically was told that my review would not be placed because I only watched it half way.


At least watch most of the show before giving it a review... Plenty shows do 180 degree turns towards the end so yes, if you don't bother giving the show a fair chance then don't bother writing a review for it. It's disrespectful to the creator as well as the fans of the show. Oh and yes, I am aware that it's a 70 episode long anime.

From what I gather, you're just pissed off that our top 50 list isn't the same as yours. Well I got news flash for you buddy, different people have different tastes in anime and things that you might consider good, other might consider trash. I would love to see Berserk be in the top 10 but since there are a lot of people out there who don’t like it, there’s not much I can do about it. Bottom line is, suck it up and deal with it. The world doesn’t revolve around you.


Wow, suddenly for suggesting something and giving some input, I am called self-centered. Alright, thank you anyway. I'll remember that before I decide to post a suggestion next time.
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not because you suggested something, it's the way you presented it. Imposing your views on others isn't going to work. As I've said before, if you feel that there is an undeserving show on our top 50 list, you're more then welcome to give it a negative review, as long as you've watched it, and bump it off/down the list. As you can see FMA is sitting in a cozy #6 position with 86 reviews simply because it's better then most shows out there and the reviews refelct that.

You said Naruto deserves to be ranked higher then Juuni Kokki but just because you say so, doesn't make it true. The popular shows already get represented in our "Popular Shows" list in which you can see Naruto is sitting at #1. That doesn't mean that it's the best show out there.

If I was too strong in my response I apologize, I probably could have worded it differently but I still meant what I've said. Just because you really like something, doesn't mean every one else will too. I found that out while recommending Berserk to a lot of people.
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will you stop recommanding Berserk, it sucks dude ! Wink
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AngelKing wrote:
It's not because you suggested something, it's the way you presented it. Imposing your views on others isn't going to work. As I've said before, if you feel that there is an undeserving show on our top 50 list, you're more then welcome to give it a negative review, as long as you've watched it, and bump it off/down the list. As you can see FMA is sitting in a cozy #6 position with 86 reviews simply because it's better then most shows out there and the reviews refelct that.

You said Naruto deserves to be ranked higher then Juuni Kokki but just because you say so, doesn't make it true. The popular shows already get represented in our "Popular Shows" list in which you can see Naruto is sitting at #1. That doesn't mean that it's the best show out there.

If I was too strong in my response I apologize, I probably could have worded it differently but I still meant what I've said. Just because you really like something, doesn't mean every one else will too. I found that out while recommending Berserk to a lot of people.


Point well taken and you maybe right, Berserk is a good example. I withdraw my suggestion.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is one of the things we are exactly trying to avoid.

Junni Kokki is an EXCELLENT show that ISN'T well known and infact it made it to our Spotlight Article for December. Just because it isn't popular doesn't mean its not good, quite a few very excellent anime series are overlooked just because they are older or not well publicized. Some of the ratings I do not agree with but overall I think it represents a pretty good ranking of all anime series in general.
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