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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 2:40 pm    Post subject: Planetes Reply with quote

Planetes (yeah that's the official name cause Japanese Engrish thought it was not Planets Razz)

Recap: Adapted from the manga, the anime have made it into a story of the Debris Section on Station 7. The two leads are Hoshino Hachimaki and Tanabe Ai.

A good thing of the series is the attention paid to side characters. It does not focus wholely on the leads but also gives some airtime to the side characters' aims, families, history, emotions, thoughts, etc. The general background information focuses on the conflict of space exploration vs communal improvement and the devastation wrought by capitalism.

A good series recommended for those who are interested in more mundane (i.e. non-fantastical elements) life stories and space.

Having watched till ep21 (anime) now & read Vol 3 (manga), I cannot help but be disappointed in the adaptation. Characters have been given a more stereotypical mould to drama-mama manipulate our emotional involvement. Oh yes, the terrorists are back again.

Personally I think they could have done something creative by totally not focusing or changing Tanabe & Hachimaki. They could have made the anime just focus on the side characters (kill the Debris managers off while they are at it) and make it run alongside the manga. Thus if you want to know about Hachimaki & Tanabe, read the manga. But since they touched upon this two as their leads, I cannot help but compare their adaptation with the manga and become disappointed.

Nevertheless, if you do not want to read or you don't have the manga, this series is worth picking up for the those I mentioned above.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with you Yeb on the quality of the show in general. I think it has been under-rated. The show focuses on the lives of the debris section along with a few characters from elsewhere. Since it does not stay focused solely on Hachi and Tanabe it creates a grander view of what goes on.

Then again the 2 managers do need to find themselves sucked out of a very small hole into space. Goodness they're annoying.

Anyway, i have only been able to watch up to ep 16 since the subs are comming out at turtle speeds. For those who have seen more, how do u feel the show is progressing and do u think u have maintained interest or are begining to lack it?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't read the manga so I can't say anything about Planetes as an adaptataion, but on its own I definitely like it a lot more than all other shows being released right now except GitS: SAC and Paranoia Agent. The beginning was a bit slow and had some things I didn't like but ever since episode 7 I've loved almost every bit of it.
It's a shame that most subbing groups instantly go for the mainstream shows like FMA and Chrno Crusade and so many much better ones are largely ignored (another one that doesn't get proper treatment is Twin Spica, a very touching series similar to Planetes that nobody seems to give a damn about).
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well of course the big name shows coming from popular companies will be what the sub groups will go for first. Anime Forever has been subbing ES (though not in very good time) so as long as we're geting decent quality subs im coo.

But i absolutely agree with u Al. Sucks that there isn't more interest in the show ( and some others) but we just can't do anything to sway people. I just want the damn subs to come out already! They're on what, ep 22 Raw but only 16 subbed... They're killin me.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, I have to say, ANBU rocks... They managed to pretty much catch up to the current Japanese episode in a mere 4 days after falling 9 episodes behind... Very Happy Only Ep 24's left now (and Ep 25 on Saturday).

Anyway, Ep 23 certainly caught me by surprise... Didn't expect this kind of conspiracy and action and amounts of death in this show. Looking forward to the last three episodes of the series.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i quite like this series. I thought it had a slow start, got good, then went under again slightly over the first 10 eps, which is all i've watched. Just got like 10+ eps from anbu today and will finish it once exams are done. My favoruite episode has to be the one with all the ninjas, good laughs. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the ep with the ninjas was the only one that totally sucked... Razz
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hehe
ninja ep brought comedy and a good bash at naruto

but the last few eps that anbu relentlessly dumped out r realllllyyyy goooddd
(gotta thank anbu for that...or else i woulda killed meself with anticipation)
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I consider the ninja episode a major minus point on this anime (If this series could have gotten a 10, and if I gave it a 9 at most, you would know why).
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yebyosh wrote:
I consider the ninja episode a major minus point on this anime (If this series could have gotten a 10, and if I gave it a 9 at most, you would know why).


Well at least you could get some satisfaction from the fact that All the ninjas died
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

darkhunger wrote:
Yebyosh wrote:
I consider the ninja episode a major minus point on this anime (If this series could have gotten a 10, and if I gave it a 9 at most, you would know why).


Well at least you could get some satisfaction from the fact that All the ninjas died


Actually I knew this around one month back Razz

And you are wrong!

All except one died! Razz

The only thing I wonder is...

Are they going to let Dorfl die? He is the only new side-character (not in manga) that I feel is good. Its a gut wound and is 99.9% fatal and painful way to go.

And is Claire really dead? After she got shot, another scene only shows a wound on her leg. Weird...
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yebyosh wrote:
Actually I knew this around one month back Razz


I know... You were posting spoilers of this on Animesuki before I even watched Ep 14 or something... Razz

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And you are wrong!

All except one died! Razz


Same thing... Not like that big guy did anything anyway.

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The only thing I wonder is...

Are they going to let Dorfl die? He is the only new side-character (not in manga) that I feel is good. Its a gut wound and is 99.9% fatal and painful way to go.

And is Claire really dead? After she got shot, another scene only shows a wound on her leg. Weird...


Well, two way that this kind of anime could go... Super dark where just about everyone dies and even if the ending's happy it's at most bittersweet, or super happy where most people who are in danger of death comes back and become healthy again... Mad I predict the latter...
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ANBU was quite impressive with this mass release... They must have really liked the show Smile (the video quality of their encode is very bad though Sad)
Anyway, I really like how it's going and there are quite a few things I didn't expect.

darkhunger wrote:
Well, two way that this kind of anime could go... Super dark where just about everyone dies and even if the ending's happy it's at most bittersweet, or super happy where most people who are in danger of death comes back and become healthy again... Mad I predict the latter...


Judging from what I've seen so far I think it'll have a bit of both. Somebody's gotta die but I'm sure things will work out for Hachimaki and Tanabe. Let's wait and see.

Btw it's funny that the tests in Twin Spica and Planetes are almost exactly the same... I wonder which copied from which. Or maybe both got the idea from somewhere else...
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AlDim wrote:

Btw it's funny that the tests in Twin Spica and Planetes are almost exactly the same... I wonder which copied from which. Or maybe both got the idea from somewhere else...


Yup... I was wondering about that too... But both are a bit cruel to be used in a real life situation though, right...?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, I do not agree it is a cruel test. It is a hard test and one that would reduce the chance of getting a person that would break or not perform accordingly in a gruelling long isolated journey and back fraught with dangers from both environment, people and technology. With the effort and resources poured into the project, it is only natural to select the most capable and determined bunch of people that are also capable of bonding others into team decisions. And there are such tests in real life, just that it does not appear in civillian projects.
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