Why, Oh Why, PLEASE!

err · Heimin (Commoner) Joined: Apr 11, 2005 Posts: 87

I'm writing this while feeling kind of depressed

why do animes like Tenshi na Konamaiki, Straos 4 or Steamy Girls (Girl's Bravo) get 50 episodes or two seasons and **** like Pokemon gets a whooping 291 episodes or Yugioh with 130 (I think) and masterpieces like Kare Kano don.t even get a second season (for the part of the manga we didn.t get to see), or Junni Kouki that gets canceled two thirds of the way, or Samurai Champloo that almost didn.t end or Hellsing that chooses to ignore 2/3's of the manga's story or Beck that rushed the last part (2 or 3 volumes in the manga are told in less than 10 minutes) or even Genshiken stoping on the 13th ep beeing one of the greatest series of last year and also Berserk, if you didn.t read the maga you're left with sooo many questions unanswered.

Not to talk about some great mangas that never got to see anime (or at least a decent anime) like I's or Hanakimi while others do?

After wrting this beyond depressed I'm kind of mad. Do the guys with the money don.t have brains? It's not necessary to be a genious to know where the good things are and where the bad ones should be...

Sorry for the ranting, but just finished (re-)watching Juuni Kouki again and these thoughs crossed my mind

KayVee · Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 10:41 pm Post subject:

First of all. For the whole Pokemon/Yu-Gi-Oh having an endless amount of episodes while high quality series barely last a season... One must know that sometimes the animators decide to do a one season gig, other times they decide to go on if they see the fan support is still there. I hate to admit it, but Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh seem to make more money off merchandised products than Samurai Shamploo. These days, it's not quality that decides if an anime stays or dies (well, yes it does but...), usually money-making potential has the last word. Just a thought.

err · Heimin (Commoner) Joined: Apr 11, 2005 Posts: 87

I put those two in the end because of that, they're bad animes but apeal to children, and children are by far the biggest consumer of modern age... Anyways, show me a reason for all the other ones... please :/

LiangZzZ · Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 12:37 am Post subject:

Well I guess you can only blame the anime creators for that...

Spectrum · Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 1:41 am Post subject:

Long series = lots of fillers, if you remove de fillers of pokemon then the series can be reduced to like 52 or less eps.
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Caireen · Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 3:39 am Post subject:

In the case of Kare Kano, I believe the manga-ka was ill and so the anime was hastily finished off and then later the manga was continued by the author!

It's all about profit and what will make the most money for the sponsors. Anything with heaps of merchandise prospects will always be a winner, whereas something like Beck doesn't even have an opening for dolls or toys! One of the reasons Sailor Moon was a 200 episode anime was the merchandise prospects, there are literally 100's of dolls and plushies and numerous other play items, trading cards, computer games etc.

Plus I guess it's the same as with anything, viewer ratings count for a lot. If it's a family favourite it's going to last longer than a 2am time slot anime!

Personally though, I agree with you. There are loads of titles I wish had a better ending, or had been longer running, or a really good manga that would make a wonderful anime. Having said that though, there are lots of manga stories I wouldn't have read if there wasn't the prospect of finding out how the story should really have ended!

CGY · Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 12:21 pm Post subject:

It is better for some anime to end soon, other wise even the good ones would become bad if they drag their series on to much.

leoxjm · Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 2:16 pm Post subject:

Series that go for too long are full of fillers, as someone said above. It is difficult to maintain a quality product for too long, and IMO it is better to quit while you're still at the top and not when the rotten tomatoes start flying. That way a series becomes more memorable and it is remembered fondly. I also agree that a better work should have been done in some cases (such as Hellsing, which was OK, but could have been waaaay better), but it is no use crying over the spilled milk. So there.
Everyone said it before and I also stand by it. The product that SELLS is the one that runs longer, so even if it is crappy, as long as the $$$ go in, then it is artificially kept alive no matter how bad something sucks. Although it would be awesome for the better stuff to run longer, it is difficult to do and that is just the way it works.

err · Heimin (Commoner) Joined: Apr 11, 2005 Posts: 87

first of all thank you all for you replies, even if you didn.t agree with me.

True that sometimes if a series goes for too long it starts getting boring/repetitive...

But take some good examples like GTO, Naruto (I'm NO naruto fan), gundam seed Kenshin (great up to the end of the Shishio ark).

But most of my complains go for the lack of a definite ending in some of them! For example, Cowboy Bebop was great and the ending was Cool, same with lots of others like trigun or even FMP. But Kare Kano has a desapointing ending... so does Berserk and Juuni Kouki (if you seen them you know what I'm talking about).

It's not about endlessly dragging the story, is continuing some of the greatest anime masterpiecies of our time and giving them the ending they deserve!

Take evangelion for example... The last 2 episodes sucked, so they "remade" the ending...

And also... I belive that good series can go on for a lot of episodes (as the emples stated above) if they're are beeing done by the right persons.

I see it as this. Everyone likes mcdonald's (more or less). Imagine that the person who invented the hamburger would have sent the recepie down the drain after giving you the taste. How would that feal? Knowing that thing that's sooo good will never be made again?

kaitune · Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 9:26 pm Post subject:

Oh well, that's life... I so want Count Cain to be made into Anime, but it doesn't... Sad

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Caireen · Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 4:33 am Post subject:

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Does anyone remember Ranma1/2?? in my opinion-GREAT SERIES....Back then I was waiting on average 2-4 weeks to get 2 or 3 episodes on tape...and it was all still worth it...but honestly when they got to "Martial arts noodle racing and martial arts caligraphy...." JEBUS!!It just killed it for me. They got to 134 episodes and they were all pretty mucch C#%@ near the end. (and lets not even talk about how that ended. It is like th author had something GOOD and just KILLED it by streatching it and trying to milk all the money she could out of it. If you think the series is so great...it is probably because it did not drag ON and ON and ON with nothing new. I think as long as a series HAS an ending its a PLUS! I mean think of Berserk or fruits basket....EWH! Evil or Very Mad

luca_blight · Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 11:06 am Post subject:

For general is better that the series remains short. A long series usually means a lot of pointless and filler episodes. Or worse, repetition and repetition of the same formula.
For example, DBZ, the damned planet takes a eternity to explode!! Very Happy

, or recently Naruto, it make me so bored that I dont watch anymore.
Or Rurouni Kenshin, that was a good manga being slaughtered.

And if the manga is still running you always can:
a) Invent a ending. Like Elfen Lied or Chrno Crusade.
b) Leave open for a second series. Like School Rumble.
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Caireen · Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 4:25 am Post subject: