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Sorry guys but I haven't seen any GS or GSD except for the first 24 eps. because cartoon network started airing them at 12 o'clock. So i don't know much about GS mobile suits, but I'm surprised to hear that there are armor that can stand up to nukes! But I can't believe no one likes the UC era.....I feel so lonely but anyways I'm glad this thread is back...yay! On with the arguments! _________________ The hardest person to forgive is yourself~
AHHHHHH so much conversing w/o me~!?!!!..lol~! well i'll just reply to Taka's last post then~!
TAKA>i don't think cartoon network is even airing the show anymore..cuz they have a new friday line up~! but who knows i could be wrong~! _________________
Ohh right arguing time, Genesis may be neuclear powered but the beam it'self isn't excatly like a nuke now is it. I tried to look up info about Genisis so I don't ramble on without knowing what the hell Im talking about. But I was under the impression that Genesis acts somewhat like Cyclops did only mor concentrated and no area restriction. But considering the fact that technicaly PS armour should be able to withstand pretty much every non beam based weapon it should survive a blast, and then the particals or whatever should be fine as well since it is nuke powered so it should have protection against that kind of stuff. There you have it
If I remember correctly Genesis is a giant Gamma ray cannon. So what it does is shoot out an atomic bomb's power. The cyclops system was not something nuclear, since the EAF lacked N-Jammer cancellers at the time. Well, even if Genensis is not a nuclear "cannon", it is supposed to have the force of a nuclear explosion, so my point stands. _________________
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Another reson for why Freedom couldn't handle the hit could be because it had alredy taken lots of hits from Providence. My point is a nuclear bomb is diffrent from Genesis do we agree so far?
Now I know nothing about nukes so I only guess now. First the bomb goes of which I guess acts more or less like your average bomb and blow the crap out of things that are within it's radius. Then Im guessing it all the radioactive stuff that's left afterwards. Do I have the basic idea down? Ok a bomb PS armour should be able to handle ofcourse Freedom and Justice won't just stand there and laugh at it's face but it won't destroy them either. They'd probably fly from the force of the explosion but unlike most things they would be in one piece. Then as I said the neclear waste that's left, since they are neclear powered they should have protection from it don't you think. So they should technicaly be able to handle one not totaly unscratched but still survive.
Now like I said before I know shit about these things or about how Genesis really works but if anything it's not the same as blowing up nukes. I know it's not like the cyclops I mearly think they are more alike then a bomb.
Now if anything dosen't make since well sorry it's 4:20am here so Im tired.
freedom does lose its railguns and wings and waht not... but pretty much other than that it was already wrecked from the start.. so.. highly damaged gundam + phase shift < genesis? well i guess phase shift can only withstand so much damage... even that should have its limits right? so.. maybe genesis is just strong enough to do damage past that phase shift..there.. hows that for an explanation =p.. 2 am and i'm tired... i should post earlier haha.. _________________ Mr. Offtopic o_o
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Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 9:12 pm Post subject:
Genesis has the power to destroy a Phase Shift armor... if the Gundams can withstand the damage from Genesis, why not just charge in and destroy the damn thing ? take Izumo class (Kusanagi) for example, there were like 5+ of them heading towards Gil space castle but they were destroy easily. Izumo class (Kusanagi) can withstand the damage from the green/red laser for a limited amount of time but it wasnt able to withstand the gamma ray from Genesis. mobile suits equiped with Phase Shift armor is a form of protection against physical damages(non-laser weapons) but a laser aimed at a Gundam can be compared to a Izumo class (Kusanagi) getting hit by a gamma ray.
green/red laser < gamma ray
Phase Shift armor < gamma ray
a Phase Shift has a limit to the amount of damage it can take, the same goes for nuclear power mobile suits.
Genesis has the power to destroy a Phase Shift armor... if the Gundams can withstand the damage from Genesis, why not just charge in and destroy the damn thing ? take Izumo class (Kusanagi) for example, there were like 5+ of them heading towards Gil space castle but they were destroy easily. Izumo class (Kusanagi) can withstand the damage from the green/red laser for a limited amount of time but it wasnt able to withstand the gamma ray from Genesis. mobile suits equiped with Phase Shift armor is a form of protection against physical damages(non-laser weapons) but a laser aimed at a Gundam can be compared to a Izumo class (Kusanagi) getting hit by a gamma ray.
green/red laser < gamma ray
Phase Shift armor < gamma ray
a Phase Shift has a limit to the amount of damage it can take, the same goes for nuclear power mobile suits.
as for Freedom, i dont know how it survived... it probably got away in time but the explosion from the gamma ray damaged it.
hehe. i fully agree with you ..except...didnt the izumo class ships fly away? i was pretty sure they dodged it each time and the earth and zaft ships got hit.. =p oh well, i could be wrong. who knows..
anyways, your statement on phase shift only able to withstand a certain amount... thats like excatly what i'm thinking, and... i think freedom wasn't there long enough for genesis to fully do damage, that and it was being destroyed from the inside.. so.. who knows? _________________ Mr. Offtopic o_o
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but anyways I'm glad this thread is back...yay! On with the arguments!
