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eisenmeteor The Mirage of Deceit


Joined: Jun 03, 2005 Posts: 2932 Location: In the land of twilight, under the moon
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Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 2:55 am Post subject: |
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I think I would know since I did start this thread. And I said no switching pilots and putting them in another MS, meaning no puting Duo in Impulse or anything like that. And my point was that Kira isn't a sissy. You guys said that Heero is superior (Kickass warrior or what you now said) because of his training that he was trained to kill, so I was asking do still think Kira wouldn't be able to match or even surpass him if he had that training. And if Heero did not have any training do you still think he'd kick Kiras ass. And then from point blank no training what so ever and put them Heero in Wing (Not Wing Zero) and Kira in Strike (Aile) and see who would win.
Oh and to Elvin it is explained in the manga, he was still in Strike after Aegis self destructed then he stood up and got out and collapsed after seeing Archangel leave, after that Marcio or whatever his name is picked him up and nursed him. And in the Astray manga it was the guy in Red Frame that picked him up from the cockpit and carried him to Marcio so you're free to chose the explination you want.
Well Shinn didn't pierce through the cockpit that's why Kira didn't die. Freedoms cockpit isn't in the same place as all the other cockpits. And he did eject the nucleur reactor before it exploded. Strike Rouge retrived him and the torso and that was all that was left of Freedom.
There are those explanations enough. |
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LukeSilverace Heimin (Commoner)

Joined: Jun 28, 2005 Posts: 62 Location: Lion Den
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Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 4:17 am Post subject: |
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Yeah Kira cockpit is in the chest part, sort of.
The part below the chest is the nuclear generator(the part that got pierce). You could see him disengaging the nuclear reactor when Cagali go fetch him.
And i remember 01 self destruct and Heero body got pick up by Trowa and they run away. That was one major battle.
The topic seem to be shift rather to be battle of Kira and Heero ei? |
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LukeSilverace Heimin (Commoner)

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Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 4:23 am Post subject: |
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| Oh ya, i forgot to add that Shin mis aim his sword and hit the side of the the nuclear reactor part, that is why it didn't got destroyed immediately. If you see properly you can see, depending on where you are looking,that it is titled to the left or right more. |
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Elvin Yari Ashigaru

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Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:50 am Post subject: |
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ah, ic
so the manga's alot better than the anime (GS/GSD)? |
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KazeKei Heimin (Commoner)

Joined: Dec 28, 2004 Posts: 62 Location: Heaven
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Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 10:13 am Post subject: |
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| Elvin wrote: |
| and to be fair, the colony wing zero destroyed at the end of the series was a joint effort... all 5 of the gundams were hitting it with all they had if memory serves, and the earth's atmosphere did it's fair share as wel |
no, its not that part which im talking about. the one im talking bout is when Quatre appear with WingZero in the series, he uses the canon to destroy a colony in 1 shot, where Trowa later save him from the Zero system. _________________ Im the 7th Angel
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Elvin Yari Ashigaru

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Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 11:52 am Post subject: |
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ah... i forgot about that...
maybe it collapsed on it's own  |
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kaykay Shogun

Joined: Jul 22, 2005 Posts: 2622 Location: Cali
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Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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oh sawwiez 4 the confusion Eisenmeteor.
ok to answer ur questions. i think if Kira had the SAME training as Heero..then i do think he would at least be Heero's equal. who knows..perhaps even better. But if Heero had no training...then yea i think Kira would kick his ass. But if Heero was still built the same way...then no i think kira would lose in the fight.
ok if both heero and kira had NO TRAINING AT ALL and were put in2 their original gundams (no upgrades or anything)...then i think that they would both die!.l.ol...i either think they wouldn't be able to move their gundams..or the slightest fast speed movement would give them a heart attack or put them in2 shock. i think they would have a harder time moving their own gundam than actually trying to fight against another gundam..lol.
if u think about it..the only way Heero and kira are such excellent skilled pilots is through training and expierience right?! so w/o being physically, mentally, and emotionally toned...then i don't think they would have the slightest clue on how to pilot their gundams......and probably couldn't endure the pressure in a real battle/ fight. and even the environment they're in could make the slightest alteration on who would win the fight (victor) ..or on the outcome of the battle....if it be in space or tough terain on earth. _________________
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majikCarp Yari Ashigaru

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Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Duo and DeathScythe > Heero and his stupid gundam :O |
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kaykay Shogun

Joined: Jul 22, 2005 Posts: 2622 Location: Cali
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Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 12:35 am Post subject: |
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GASP***** u did not just call Heero and his Gundam Wing Zero stupid!!! i'm shocked beyond shocked...and wat u said was gay beyond gay!!! My mind cannot comprehend nor process wat u just stated!!!! ..........yea cuz it's not like Duo EVER lost a fight..........yea right!! ..in fact Duo is stated to be the weakest fighter outta the 5 G-boys! ...don't get me wrong he's kewl and all...but he would get his ass kicked by both Heero and Kira. _________________
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unkownfan Heimin (Commoner)

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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 2:23 am Post subject: |
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yeah u should reconsider about heero hes great man.
and kaykay i think heero always had the mind set to kill people because i remmber from the book that hero was always alone and he started taking out ms since he was a kid with rocket lauchers. and your problably right that if heero didnt have the training he would lose to kira because kira was bread to be coordinator while heero had to learn as he went along and he is just human and u have to admint its kind of impressive that a human like hero can be equal or better than a coordinator he has natural talent _________________ when u died or have to died go out with a bang |
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kevinchaosvs Shogun

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LukeSilverace Heimin (Commoner)

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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 5:10 am Post subject: |
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| kaykay wrote: |
oh sawwiez 4 the confusion Eisenmeteor.
ok to answer ur questions. i think if Kira had the SAME training as Heero..then i do think he would at least be Heero's equal. who knows..perhaps even better. But if Heero had no training...then yea i think Kira would kick his ass. But if Heero was still built the same way...then no i think kira would lose in the fight.
ok if both heero and kira had NO TRAINING AT ALL and were put in2 their original gundams (no upgrades or anything)...then i think that they would both die!.l.ol...i either think they wouldn't be able to move their gundams..or the slightest fast speed movement would give them a heart attack or put them in2 shock. i think they would have a harder time moving their own gundam than actually trying to fight against another gundam..lol.
if u think about it..the only way Heero and kira are such excellent skilled pilots is through training and expierience right?! so w/o being physically, mentally, and emotionally toned...then i don't think they would have the slightest clue on how to pilot their gundams......and probably couldn't endure the pressure in a real battle/ fight. and even the environment they're in could make the slightest alteration on who would win the fight (victor) ..or on the outcome of the battle....if it be in space or tough terain on earth. |
I detect a lot of 'if' in your reply
Haha, this is endless
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LukeSilverace Heimin (Commoner)

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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 5:12 am Post subject: |
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This is hard to decide, each gundam and it's pilot has it's pro and con.
Is there a video game that could solve this problem |
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eisenmeteor The Mirage of Deceit


Joined: Jun 03, 2005 Posts: 2932 Location: In the land of twilight, under the moon
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 9:09 am Post subject: |
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LukeSilverace you shouldn't double post I think stuff like that could get you banned, write everything into one post insteed.
And kevinchaosvs why did you post up a pic of Lucus, not that it's not a good pic put don't see the point in posting it here.
Now then kaykay I guess my point did get across in a way... I think. But I still stick by my first post Epyon would kick everyones ass. To bad I don't like Zechs that much or Miliard or what ever his name was, maybe I should have the one were Heero is piloting it after all he used too pilot Epyon. Yes I know it got beat by Wing Zero but still it's one of (With a lack of better word) the coolest suits ever. Once again why because it's not overpowered, what does it have a whip and a sword as equipment. And it's a close combat suit that's why I like it. Not running around shoting all the time and it still gave Wing Zero a run for it. |
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demonic19 Heimin (Commoner)

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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 9:21 am Post subject: |
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| im sorry but burning gundam from g gundam rules all if they can bet the god gundam they rule |
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