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eisenmeteor The Mirage of Deceit


Joined: Jun 03, 2005 Posts: 2932 Location: In the land of twilight, under the moon
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:13 am Post subject: Gundam Battle |
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From what I've checked I haven't seen any thread like this one so I thought I migt as well make one and if there is Im sorry for not noticing. Either way which Gundam do you think would win in a tournament including all known gundams and why you think/want it to win. No switching pilots like putting Shinn in Strike Rouge or anything like that. Id make a poll but I don't know every Gundam there is and I doubt there would be enough options.
Id have to say Epyon. Why? Because I like it alot, it's not really that overpowered like some suits are and it has a nice moral or however you put it, to battle in close combat and not just running around shoting and what can i say just like that part alot. And if you compare it to Strike Freedom I'd have to say someone how can survive in a big full out war in Epyon needs a bit more skill then in Strike Freedom (Not that I belive that anyone can use S-F and survive anything), I mean 2 shields that blocks like everything from beam weapons to missiles and all that firepower, the rifles, the chest cannon, the rail guns and the DRAGOONS + a few sabers and still dosen't weigh that much if you think about Legend so Im guessing it's pretty fast and infinite energy how bout that... what was it they said in most sites almost invicible then Epyon comes along with a sword and a whip did it even have a shield? I think it had some kind of shield where the whip was... hmm don't really remember. But then again it dosen't matter since this is supposed to be a one on one so, let's hear what you people think.
EDIT: We now have a little turnament going on so cast your vote, however there is no poll. And for those who are in search of who faces of with who here is you go.
http://www.anime-source.com/banzai/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=158775#158775
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Ensign451 Yari Ashigaru

Joined: Jan 11, 2005 Posts: 330 Location: PEI, Canada
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Epyon is cool and all but it was beat by Wing Zero. I haven't seen all the gundam series but wasn't there some really crazy gundams that could do reallly crazy things in one of them side stories? |
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unkownfan Heimin (Commoner)

Joined: Jul 05, 2005 Posts: 66
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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i think that wingzero would beat all of them. because it has one of the craziest piolets that almost suicidal and with that powerful buster rifle that could probably anything _________________ when u died or have to died go out with a bang |
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isitbettertodie newbie!

Joined: Jul 09, 2005 Posts: 21
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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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man if u compared all the gundam series
Gundam Double X would win
its so dam riggy
especially in space where it can fire its satelite cannons multiple times and can wipe out armies in 1 shot |
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Sharp Conscript
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Joined: Jul 16, 2005 Posts: 124
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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Gundam Wing Custom *special movie edition*, the one with the complicated angel looking wings > all Gundams in every series know to all Gundam fanatics. I don't care if they invented something stronger, bigger, faster, etc... That one is the best of all eternity! =) |
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kaykay Shogun

Joined: Jul 22, 2005 Posts: 2622 Location: Cali
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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i'll have to agree with almost every1 in here....Wing Zero from Gundam Wing owns all the other gundams bcuz of it's buster rifle.....afterall, it was created to be superior than all the other gundams (zero system)....heero yuy, skilled assassin & gundam zero = best match up for success in any battle. _________________
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shadowfox32 Conscript

Joined: Mar 27, 2005 Posts: 114
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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| mawahahahhaha Gundam Zeta is the best all around. It has a rifle equivalent that of a battleship cannon, different forms (mobile armor and mobile suit), hand-hand combat beam saber, shield, atmosphere reentry capability... |
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unkownfan Heimin (Commoner)

Joined: Jul 05, 2005 Posts: 66
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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it may have all that but doesnt wingzero custom have all of that except for the shield and it also has more. it has that wicked zero system which helps u predict attack and its buster rifle is just as powerfull _________________ when u died or have to died go out with a bang |
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exmorte newbie!

Joined: Jul 27, 2005 Posts: 34 Location: South of the border..... THE canadian one that is!
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Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Meh I would hafta say something like the Kampefer if it came down to like my favorite, I mean all the equipment and its sheer smexyness. But if I were to go on who I think would win a fight I'd hafta choose The GPO3 Demdrobium Orchis for a space battle, and the Psycho Gundam Mark II for groun. Meh I think bigger would be better. As for everyone that states the Wing zero and whatnot wouldnt any mobile suit fitted with a beam dispersment mechanism (Beam coating phase shift armor and whatnot) Simply shurg off or sustain minimal damage from the Wings primary weapon the buster rifle? I guess it might not seeing as how the gundams from wing gundam were really overpowered I mean few other mobile suits took out such sheer numbers of opponnents. But meh those bigger guys could take and dish more damage albiet they wouldn't evade as well and perhaps miss more on smaller foes or newtypes, well the GPO3 would but seeing as how psycho has the beam bits and a mandatory newtype pilot I suppose it would hit more often. Ahh and an honorable mention would be the Nightengale that monstrosity would be a fierce foe indeed. |
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Elvin Yari Ashigaru

Joined: Jun 08, 2005 Posts: 283
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Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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no one thinks strike freedom is any good? Kira IS the strongest coordinator. i know he lost to shinn, but i don't think wing zero custom would have won either under those conditions (heero had a hard time with altron in EW, one could even say he lost that battle, and wing zero was eventually destroyed at the end). Strike Freedom has a hell of a lot of guns too, and if you choose wing zero just for its twin buster rifle, gundam zz's high mega cannon causes just as much damage, if not more. |
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unkownfan Heimin (Commoner)

Joined: Jul 05, 2005 Posts: 66
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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 1:28 am Post subject: |
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yes that may be true but kira dont have that killing intict that hero does and the number of weapons wont always matter if they dont hit your opponent and to be fair he only had trouble with that gundam because he never had any experince with that kind of system and if i remmeber correctly doesnt kira gundam energy source deplete really fast _________________ when u died or have to died go out with a bang |
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kaykay Shogun

Joined: Jul 22, 2005 Posts: 2622 Location: Cali
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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 2:06 am Post subject: |
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yea and not only that, but Heero Yuy has been trained to be the PERFECT assassin.....does Kira fall off a cliff and get up as if he just tripped over a small rock? noooooooo.....Heero is designed to withstand almost anything and everything...i mean the guy had over 200 broken bones and bruises with 2 gun shot wounds and runs around as if he's perfectly normal! Plus his gundam (wing zero) is equiped with a buster rifle...like i said before^^ ...hmmm but did i forget to mention that it can split into 2 buster rifles?!! no?! guess i must've missed that part..hehe...his gundam can also transform into a jet-like plane....like i said, perfect match up...un stoppable, un matchable, and un defeatable~!!!
oh! and back to the whole "losing" battle in endless waltz...it was cuz Heero stopped using his gundam on purpose in order to open Wufei's blinded eyes..i mean Heero purposely made his gundam fall into the ocean...and that's y the gundam was all wrecked, not cuz he lost in battle, because he chose to stop fighting in order to save some1 elses humanity...AND he was still able to save the day @ the end with his gundam by blasting the villian's so called industructable shield! _________________
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Elvin Yari Ashigaru

Joined: Jun 08, 2005 Posts: 283
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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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it's true that kira doesn't have heero's killing sense, but he does have his berserker "SEED mode" which makes him seemingly unstoppable. From what i've seen, kira is a better dodger than heero (the only one that really dodged in GW was deathscythe), so heero should have a hard time hitting kira and not the other way around. i'm not sure if you're thinking of the same battle i am when you say he "never had any experience with that kind of system", i was talking of the one in GW endless waltz (if he didn't have any experience at THAT point, when WOULD you consider him experienced?). Kira's energy supply hasn't depleted to my knowledge ever since he got into freedom.
Heero isn't the perfect assassin, he still has his humanity :w Kira and Heero both survived their gundams getting blown up and they both collapsed afterwards (and kira had a bigger "boom" on the second occasion, and heero wasn't actually IN wing when it got destroyed the first time), so their toughness could be compared. Kira has those fancy new funnel-like things in strike-freedom :E
Kira stopped Athrun, but he pwned him instead of "diving in the ocean" to do it :E |
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unkownfan Heimin (Commoner)

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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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yes in endless waltz hero did take alot of damage but if i remmeber correctly he wasnt using the zero system at the time and he wasnt really fighting wufei with hes all and was trying to make a point to him that something fighting was necessary and the death's of the soldiers were not forgotten and that they had a meaning
but to what im thinking would be a one on one battle between kira and hero with custom wing zero with and active zero system and kira with what ever he might think is suted for him. and like before with hero's zero system it could analyis all of kira battle skills and predict before hand his movements and dodge just as fast as kira or better this would be a battle that i would want to see. it would probably be close battle but at the end i think that the pilot with greatest will to win would be victorius and i think hero would have more will to win sorry if i talked for to long _________________ when u died or have to died go out with a bang |
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kaykay Shogun

Joined: Jul 22, 2005 Posts: 2622 Location: Cali
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Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 3:52 am Post subject: |
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ok like i said earlier ^^^^^^ .....heero wasn't fighting wufei in gundam wing endless waltz in order to prove a point which explained his damaged gundam (look on my last post for more info).
Ok about the time Elvin said that both kira and heero's gundams getting blown up. Elvin said that heero wasn't actually in the gundam the FIRST TIME.......ok he was right in front of the cock pit..so basically ur correct....but he was in his gundam in endless waltz when his gundam got blown away....and he like survived w/o a scratch on him.
I think heero is a wayyyy better fighter..he has the brain, tenacity, everything! he has great hacking skills, physical indurance, excellent fighting technique...AND he's twice as strong from the average man. i seriously don't think he has any competiton...he's like one of those characters that just can't die...even if he wanted too. everytime he attempted to basicaly commit suicide..well it never worked. the thing i like about heero is he turns from a bloody killer, to a protector. so he actually grows throughout the series. ..there's basically nothing he can't handle...especially when he's in his gundam ..wing zero! _________________
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